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The Ballyphehane Oral History Project
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Life history interviews with the inhabitants of the Cork City suburb of Ballyphehane about life in the area pre and post city corporation development.
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In June 2016 Contact was made by the<a href="https://19162016committee.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Ballyphehane 1916 Centenary Commemoration Committee</a> with the Cork Folklore Project to establish an oral history project to coincide with the events in Ballyphehane marking the centenary commemoration of the 1916 rising. The goal was to collect the memories of the residents and have a night in the community centre where these interviews would be played for the community. Ballyphehane is a suburb in the Southside of the city between Turners Cross and Togher. It was built between the 1940s and 1960s and inhabited by families rehoused from the city centre, much like Gurranabraher and Knocknaheeny in the north side. The significance of the 1916 rising to Ballyphehane is that the streets are named after the leaders of the rising. It was decided that CFP researcher and Ballyphehane resident, James Furey, would head up the project and assist volunteers in technical training and interview techniques: all interviews were carried out under the auspices of the the CFP. This interviewing project is ongoing, and there have been a number of community listening events in 2017 and 2018. Interviews have been carried out by CFP staff James Furey and David McCarthy, and by Ballyphehane resident Arnie O'Connell.
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Interviewees: Hilary Lyons; Arthur Walker Snr; John Chute; Marie McAllen (with contribution from Liam Ohúigín); Elizabeth 'Lizzie' O'Sullivan; Tom Falvey; Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley
Interviewers: James Furey; Arnie O'Connell; David McCarthy;
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Catalogue Numbers: <br /><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:
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Ethnographic interviews carried out with inhabitants of Ballyphehane detailing their lives pre and post corporation development (ca. 1930s to 2018).
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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Furey, Jamie (2018) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a>
<strong>Listening Events<br /><br /><br /></strong>Library Lane Café Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> and <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a> 15th June 2017<br /><br />Tory Top Library Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a>
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David McCarthy
James Furey
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Tom Falvey
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78 m33s
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Pearse Road, Ballyphehane
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The following is a short extract from the interview transcript, copyright of the Cork Folklore Project. If you wish to access further archival material please contact CFP, folklorearchive@gmail.com
DMC: When you were young now, was there still development going on in Ballyphehane or had it mostly been built at that stage? Or can you remember?
TF: There'd be, say down in Pouladuff Road now, them houses weren't there at all and the square below, there was dump down there.
JF: Which square?
TF: Pearse Square. That was a dump one time. We used call it the dumpa. So that'd be going back now nearly 50 years. But outside of that I mean, the main part of Pearse Road is probably there 75 years. These were the last houses to be built. Started down beyond the church, it goes down to Musgrave Park, even beyond it.
JF: The first road was Kent Road I think they built. Kent Road and then they started bits of Connolly Road and bits of Pearse Road
TF: That was actually built I think direct labour I think they used call it but that was the Corporation and their own plasterers. They don't build nothing now sure they don't? It's gone terrible now though isn't it?
DMC: Were any of your relatives involved in the building of Ballyphehane?
TF: No, I doubt it because the father used to work down the mill, the uncle was in Fords, the other uncle was in Texaco. There was Falvey's builders alright but they weren't related to us. Those builders were on the Northside, on Garynehane Road.
JF: A colleague of ours does a project on Stonemasons and he's done a couple of interviews with a couple of Falveys
TF: And was it good? But there's actually a programme on there. You'd see it. They were absolutely brilliant.
JF: That was brilliant yeah. Jim Fahy made it.
TF: A man down there now was on it. He's dead now. Dinny Murphy. They had their own language and all.
JF: Yeah. The barlog. That's great.
TF: But he used go to work now in a shirt and tie. He was a mason like. He had fierce pride. Pride. That's the way the old tradesmen were.
JF: It's like the church below as well. It's all built by local tradesmen.
TF: I think the Credit Union was about '59.
JF: The first Credit Union in the country.
TF: And they were brilliant actually weren't they? The Credit Unions
JF: Can you remember the Credit Union being in the church?
TF: No
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Early life. </b><span style="font-weight:normal;">Born on Bandon Road. Roche’s Cross. Moving to Ballypheane. Death of mother. Move to Ballypheane. Aunts and fathers house. Greenmount School. Glasheen Secondary School. How he has bad memories of school in Glasheen, how you’d be terrified of school then. Playing with the Barrs. Walking up the Lee Fields. Bowling, playing football and how they would be out all the time. The Three Fields. The Well Field. Playing hurling when they got to age twelve or thirteen. Going out the road bowling. Going for a spin in the car with his uncle on a Sunday to Kinsale and Garrettstown. Going bowling up Pouldaduff Road by Celia’s Pub. The river by Celia’s Pub. How there was just one child ever collected in primary school. How there was just one car on their road. </span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;font-weight:normal;">Mick Barry the bowler. Other greats of bowling Dennis Scully and Mick Sexton. How he disliked primary school but like secondary school. Going on to CIT and doing a marine related course. Studying morse code.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;font-weight:normal;">Going on to work in Fords. Working there from 1979 to 1984. How they knew Fords would be closing in 84 in connection with the Common Market. How it was worse for married men being laid off. How Fords were great employers and would pay for employee’s children to go through college. Fords West Cork connections. How it was a big blow when it closed. The Lough.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom starts off by saying he was born on Bandon Road, and then moved to Roche’s Cross. His mother died in 1964 and they moved to Ballypheane then. He says he was born in 1958. They moved here in he was about six. The house where the interview is taking place and where he lived was his aunt’s house. His father’s house was number 223. He went to Greenmount School and then Glasheen Secondary School. He says his memories of Greenmount School are bad memories. He says you’d be terrified of school then and that you’re a product of your times. He says he played hurling with the Barrs up to the age of nineteen. Himself and his friends would go up the Lee Fields walking. They would go out the road bowling and out walking and across the road playing football. He adds that this is basically all they did, there were no computers then so you would be out all the time. He says they would be out the Three Fields and the Well Field. They would be just running around the Three Fields when asked what games would they play. He says when they got to twelve or thirteen they would start playing hurling and football for the Barrs. They would go for a spin every Sunday with his uncle, there was a fellow they knew had a car. They would go for a spin to Kinsale and Garrettstown. They would go bowling up Pouladuff Road by Celia’s Pub. He says they would have played in the river by Celia’s pub as well in answer to a question from Jamie. He says that when he was in primary school there was only one child in the school ever collected by car. He says there was only one car on their road from the traffic lights closest to where the interview is taking place and the lights down by the Lough.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">He says he remembers Mick Barry the bowler playing. He says he died in the same home in Ballincollig where Bobby did. (Bobby Moore, his cousin Eleanor’s father). He says he was a great bowler, adding that he and his siblings when Mick Barry was bowling. He lists him off with the other great bowlers Dennis Scully and Mick Sexton. He says you were out all the time as you had no computer or no car. He returns to the subject of school saying he disliked primary school but like secondary school. He says you were a grownup when you go to secondary school by means of explaining this. He says he loved French and Latin. He went on to do a marine course in CIT. He says he studied morse code which you had to do if you were going to be working on ships. He says you would be fixing equipment too but he didn’t finish that part of the course.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">He says he then went on to work in Fords. He started in 1979 and finished in 1984. He adds he then went on to Western Digital and then Apple. Returning to the subject of Fords he says they always knew it would close in 84 and this had something to do with the Common Market. He mentions that Dunlops closed in 83 and they were the year after. He says he was so young he probably didn’t care but for married men it was worse. He adds that Fords would give them a great severance pay and would pay to put their children through college. He says they were great employers. He adds that Ford himself was West Cork, Ballinascarty. He says there 800 there at that time and they thought that was a huge amount though nowadays there would be thousands in Apple. When it closed it was a big blow he says especially for families. He says things were very bad that time for jobs. He says there was no one on the Road working. He goes into a general discussion about how Ballypheane picked up and the economy in general. He says the houses locally are there years. The Lough is there hundreds of years.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Ballypheane developments when he was young. </b><span style="font-weight:normal;">How the houses down Pouladuff Road hadn’t yet been built when he was young. The dump on the site of Pearse Square. “The Dumpa”. How much of Ballypheane goes back seventy five years. How the houses on the road where he lives were among the last to be built. How Pearse Road stretches to Musgrave Park and beyond. Kent Road, Connolly Road. How the corporation built the houses by direct labour. His father in the mill, his uncle in Fords. The Falvey builders were are no relation. Michael Moores work for the Project on masons. Jim Fahey’s work on masons. Stone Mason Dinny Murphy who would go to work in a shirt and tie. How the old tradesmen were very proud of their work. The masons language barlog. The local church. Ballypheane Credit Union. </span></p>
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<p class="western">When asked was there still development going on in Ballypheane when he was young Tom says the houses down Pouladuff Road weren’t there then. He says there was a dump where Pearse Square is now. He says they would call it the Dumpa. He says that would be going back about fifty years. Outside of that the main part of Ballypheane is seventy five years old. He says the houses where he is living were among the last to be built. He says the houses started way down beyond the church (Ballypheane Church). He says Pearse Road goes down to Musgrave Park and beyond it. James adds that Kent Road was the first to be built then parts of Connolly Road and Pearse Road were added. He says it was built by direct labour as it was called where the corporation would have their own plasterers etc. He says they don’t build anything now. He says he doesn’t think any of his relatives were involved in the building of Ballypheane. His father used to work down the mill and his uncle was in Fords and another uncle in Texaco. He says there were Falvey builders but they weren’t related. This leads into a discussion about Michael Moores work for the Cork Folklore Project interviewing masons. Jim Faheys work in this area is also discussed. Tom talks about a stone mason he knew who is now dead called Dinny Murphy. Tom says he would go to work in a shirt and tie. He adds that Dinny Murphy had fierce pride and that was the way with the old tradesmen. The mason’s language barlog is mentioned. James mentions that the local church was built by local tradesmen. Tom says the credit union ion Ballypheane was built around 1959. Tom doesn’t remember the credit union being in the church.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>How they would never venture further up Ballypheane beyond the traffic lights. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;font-weight:normal;">How his grand uncle Tom Harris was at the first Barrs meeting. Book on the Barrs. His Harris grandmother. The old Harris House on the corner of the Lough. The Harris market gardens. Tom Harris’s horse. The old Garda Station by the Ardmanning. The big old house that was still there when Tom was in his twenties and is long gone. Tom says the Harris Market garden was still there when he was young. How there were other market gardens still in Friars Walk owned by the Scanlon’s, a relative of theirs Mick Carroll still lives on the corner up a bit from Tom. How they had a lot of property that was bought by compulsory order. Tom’s grandaunt Madgie Harris who lived on Pouladuff Road. How when you’re young you don’t take much notice of things.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;font-weight:normal;">How he hated primary school. How you would be afraid of the priests. Walking to school in Greenmount. Jumping on the bus. Playing hurling on the street. Having a tennis ball in place of a sliothar. Going to school with a plastic bag for gear. Having one toothbrush at home and no toothpaste. When his older brother Jerry came back from England with deodorant and aftershave and Tom didn’t know what it was.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">He says they never went beyond the traffic lights further out Pearse Road. He says they wouldn’t have gone to Tory TopPark. He says they would stay between the traffic lights and they could name everyone in that area. He says they would go to the Lee Fields, or play with the Barrs or go for a spin on Sunday but they would never go further up to Ballypheane beyond the traffic lights. He says his grand uncle was at the first Barrs meeting which he thinks was around 1884. His name was Tom Harris and Tom says his name is in a book about the Barrs. Toms own grandmother was a Harris. He lived in the corner house which is still standing at the corner of the Lough and Pearse Road. Tom says they all had market gardens running back from the house. He says there’s still a bit of land there. Tom says up by the Ardmanning Bar there was a big old house which was the old Garda Station. He says it was a big old house that was still there when Tom was in his twenties but it’s gone now. Tom says the Harris Market garden was still there when he was young. He says a family called the Scanlon’s also had market gardens in Friars Walk, he says a relative of theirs, Mick Carroll still lives up on the corner from Tom. He says they had a lot of property which was all bought by compulsory order. Tom speaks of his grandaunt Madgie Harris who lived on Pouladuff Road. They had a bungalow but it’s long gone. He says those people from when he was a child are all long gone. He says when you’re young you don’t take much notice of things. Some people get older and you’d wonder are they making things up he says.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">He talks more on how he hated secondary school. He says you’d be afraid of the priests. You’d be afraid going to school he says. Secondary school was different. He says he’d walk out to Greenmount when he was going to school there. He says you’d walk everywhere. He says he’d walk there with his brothers or maybe a fellow he’d know from across the road. He says lads would be acting the fool and jumping on the bus, these were normal things he says. He says there was more freedom then. He says they would play hurley on the street. They would have a hurling stick but no sliothar, they would have a tennis ball instead. They had no helmet. Tom remembers going to school with a plastic bag, thee would have been no gear bags. He says at home they had one toothbrush and no toothpaste. He adds you’re a product of your environment. He talks about when his brother Jerry who spent years in England came home with deodorant and aftershave and Tom didn’t know what it was. Tom was about twelve at the time and Jerry was seven years older. He asks could young people today relate to that.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>When Tom went to Southampton in England to work. Coming back after ten months. Western Digital, Apple. Working in Odlum’s Mill for ten years. Cork Milling Company. Grants Mill. Fords, Dunlop’s and Gouldings. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;font-weight:normal;">Why he played for the Barrs but not for Ballypheane. The Lough Parish. How they were all Barrs. “The Battle Of Ballypheane”. The row between the local soccer and GAA team in Tory Top Park. Father Fitzgerald.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;font-weight:normal;">Fr Ormond who died in the Tuskar Rock plane crash in 1968. Theory that the plane was hit by a missile. How this was a very bad local tragedy and many from Ballypheane were on it. Other local tragedies and accidents.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom speaks about when he went to Southampton in England to work. He only stayed there for ten months. He went over there after Fords. He said he wasn’t out of work for thirty years once he came back. He new a man called Tommy Welsh who worked in the mills over there so Tom went over to join him at that. Once he came back he worked in Western Digital and Apple. He worked in Odlums Mill for about ten years. He said it was dusty and he worked in the storeroom. It was a bit primitive. He says the front of it is preserved which was built in the 1930s and the main building was knocked. That was the National Flower Mill. Grants mill was the Cork Milling company. That was the big silo mill situated by where Goldberg’s pub is now. He says hundreds were employed there. Further down you had Fords, Dunlop’s and Gouldings. He says there’s nothing now, in terms of employment. The discussion moves to a brewery that is operating there now where Fords was (the Franciscan Well Brewery).</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Discussion moves back to his time playing hurling and Jamie notes he played with the Barrs but he didn’t play for Ballypheane. Tom says they were all Barrs. He says from the top traffic lights above them down to the Lough is all the Lough Parish but the reason he played with the Barrs was that his granduncle and uncle all played Barrs.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">James asks Tom if he heard of the Battle Of Ballypheane to which Tom says he heard something about it. Tom says he wasn’t there but he read about it. James goes into the story of how the soccer and GAA teams arrived at the pitch on Tory Top Park on the same day to play their finals. The soccer side put up their goalposts on the Connolly Road side and the GAA on Friars Walk end. Father Fitzgerald had to be called to sort things out to which Tom says in those days priests could sort things. If you saw the priest you’d nearly get a heart attack.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom says he does not remember Fr Fitzgerald but he remembers Fr Ormond who died in the Tuskar rock disaster when the plane he was on crashed in 1968. He speaks about the theory that it was hit by a British missile. He says it was a big disaster for Ballypheane with many local dead and that the flight had been going to Lourdes.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>(Note: the parish priest of Ballypheane who was killed in Tuskar Rock was </b><b>Fr Edward Hegarty)</b></p>
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<p class="western">He speaks about other tragedies such as a girl who was involved with soccer who was killed. He speaks about a local girl June Atkins who was killed by a car.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Glasshouses in Hartland’s Avenue. Nursery and cricket club on Hartland’s Avenue. How you could walk through where the cricket club was on the way to Glasheen but it is private now. Tomatoes being grown in the glasshouses. Cortex. Musgrave’s. CMP Dairies. Hickeys. How people didn’t have the money then. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The Credit Union in Ballypheane. Building society. How the Credit Union got people out of poverty. The contrast with Gurranabraher which didn’t have a credit union at the time. Credit Unions run by the banks now. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom says he remembers glasshouses in Hartland’s Avenue but these are gone years. Tom says if you go past the Hawthorne Bar up to the top of the road on the right was all glass houses and a nursery. He says there was a cricket club there too. He says they were there up to thirty five years but in later years they were nearly all broken. There’s all houses there now he says. The cricket club was there too. It is private now. He doesn’t know what the cricket club was called but at one point you could walk through it on the way to Glasheen but it was blocked off then. He says the glasshouses were still being used when he was young, he says you could see tomatoes being grown. In terms of local industries Cortex and Musgrave’s are mentioned. CMP Dairies also which he says are long gone. Hickeys also. Tom says people didn’t have the money then. A discussion about debit cards follows.</p>
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<p class="western">The Credit Union in Ballypheane is discussed. He says his father used to have money in a building society when they were young. The contrast with Gurranabraher is discussed and how it didn’t have a credit union at the time. Tom says the credit unions are run by the banks now. People in the past would be ducking and avoiding paying them but they can’t do that now.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Local character Elle Spillane. Charlie The Bogman. How he lived under a bridge and would be swimming in the water. How he used to swim naked. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The murder of a girl in Black Ash. Going to see Bob Marley in concert in Dalymount Park Dublin in 1979. The Rolling Stones. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Seeing the Pope in Limerick in 1979. How there was a traffic jam from Cork to Limerick and it took seven hours. The racetrack in Limerick. How the pope was waving. The upcoming papal visit. How the pope got a million visitors in 1979 but is just getting half a million now. How his father would and aunts would go to mass every morning. An uncle who would not go to mass. How religion used to give comfort. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Memories of the moving statue of Ballinspittle. Going down to see it but not seeing it moving. How people came from all round to see it. How if you looked at it long enough it with the lights you would think it was moving. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">On being asked does he remember local Lough character Elle Spillane he says he heard of her but he doesn’t remember her. He speaks about a character called Charlie The Bogman who used to live under a bridge. Charley Coleman was his real name. He used to be swimming in the water by the bridge. He used to be naked going into the water. He had a house but lived under the bridge towards the Bell Field, it might have been the Snotty Bridge. Tom says he was harmless. He likens him to a new age traveller. He was around for a long time and lived to a good age. He says he had a beard and it was hard to put an age on him. He says you would be half afraid of him as a child.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom talks about the case of a girl who was murdered out in Black Ash. He knew the girls father, he worked in Hickeys. He says that was the only murder he remembers locally.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom talks about when he went to see Bob Marley in concert in Dalymount Park Dublin in 1979.He says he had a programme but gave it to someone. He went with his friend John Mahoney. He says it wasn’t too long before Bob Marley died. He mentions in passing that he also saw the Rolling Stones in concert. He said it was brilliant to see him. He said the atmosphere was brilliant. He says he used to have all his tapes in the car. It was the best concert he was ever at. He doesn’t recall anything Bob Marley said but he said he would have been half stoned anyway. He doesn’t remember who was supporting. He adds that Dalymount Park is gone too.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">He speaks of when he went to see the Pope when he visited Ireland in 1979. He travelled up to Limerick to see him. The journey took seven hours. He says there was a traffic jam the whole way from Cork To Limerick. It was in the racetrack in Limerick which is now gone. He says he passed and he thinks he waved at him. He talks about the upcoming visit of the current pope and compares it with how the last papal visit got a million visitors but just half a million are expected this time. He says that the pope has lost his appeal a bit. The older people loved him he says. His own father used to be going to mass every morning. He says Eleanor (Moore)’s mother would go to mass every morning. His other aunt Bridie would go every morning. He says one uncle wouldn’t go to mass, he jokes that he was a bit of a pagan. He says the religion use to give comfort.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">He talks about memories of the moving statue of Ballinspittle in the 1980’s. He says it was a big thing then. He went down there himself to have a look but didn’t see anything. He says if you looked at it long enough in the light it was supposed to move. He says people would be doing experiments. It died off then he says.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The Fastnet Tragedy. The Buttevant train crash. When himself and some friends went to France. How they wouldn’t have known what sunscreen was. Staying in a tent. Visiting Paris and Nice. How France is very expensive. Visiting Tallin in Estonia. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Starting working in Apple in 1990. Starting off in the line on quality. Making the boards on PCB. How that closed and was moved abroad. How most of the people he worked with there are now gone from there. How it was all Cork people working there at that time, how it is the opposite now. How they would send a taxi out to collect you for work. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom mentions the Fastnet tragedy of 1979. He says he was down by Sherkin Island when that happened. He says everything happened in 79. He also talks about the Buttevant train crash. He says he was in France that year. He says himself and three of his friends went to France. He says you’d have no sunscreen that time, you wouldn’t know what it was. He says they went over in jeans and the sweat was pouring off them. They went camping in a tent and visited Paris and Nice. He says in more recent years he visited Tallin in Estonia, about fifteen years. He says he reckons people don’t have much there.</p>
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<p class="western">Tom says he started working in Apple in 1990. He says they’re there since 1980. He started off on the line, he was on quality then. He was then making the boards on PCB but that closed. That was moved somewhere else. Most of his friends he worked with are gone from there and it’s a different kettle of fish up there now, it is now mostly call centre work. He says when he was there it was all Cork people. He says they would send out a cab to pick you up for going to work and you would make your own way home then. He says they wouldn’t do that now and they’re worth a trillion dollars. He says one of his friends is on the production line about ten years. A discussion on contracts and working conditions follows.</p>
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<p class="western"><span style="font-size:small;"><b>0.29.52 - 0.35.10</b></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Tramore Road. How it was called Hang Dog Road. Stories about how it got that name. A tannery that used to be out there and how stray dogs were made into buoys. Musgrave’s getting the name of the road changed. His brother John involved in greyhounds. Hunting with the Southern Hunt Club when they were younger. Going out hunting towards Kinsale, Belgooly. How it’s dying out now as farmers don’t want people on their land due to insurance claims. How they would hardly ever manage to catch anything. How they would be hours trying to find the dogs. Drag Hunting by the airport. How it would end in Billy Halloran’s pub, now known as Bull McCabe’s. Halloran’s orchard. What Halloran’s pub was like back then. Dogs in the pub. Harrier dogs. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Celia’s pub. The outdoor toilet. How the bowling started then. Celia and Jack Neville. How the pub was falling down and many pubs of the time were like then. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The route they took for the bowling, starting by Neville’s. Lamdmarks along the way. The pink wall. The bridge. The pump. The Three Sticks. Tiger Aherne’s. Tiger Aherne the bowler. Finishing by Corcoran’s Bridge. How it was all uphill and all downhill. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">James asks Tom about Tramore Road and if they knew it under a different name. Tom says they did but he struggles to remember what it was called. Jamie suggests Hang Dog Road and Tom say’s this was what it was called. He asks why it was called that and James goes through a story of how there was a tannery and they would bring stray dogs out there to make buoys for fishermen so they would hang the dogs there. James’s says Musgrave’s got the name changed. Tom says his brother John is involved with greyhounds. His brother Dennis was involved with them as well. Tom goes on to say when they were younger himself and his siblings were involved with the Southern Hunt Club who were based on Bandon Road. He says they would go out hunting anywhere, Kinsale, Belgooly but its dying out now as farmers won’t allow access to their land. He says if a fellow broke his leg on their land he would make a claim. He says its not very fashionable now but anytime they went hunting they’d catch almost nothing, anything they’d find would be half dead from disease. They’d be hours trying to find the dogs then. It was good in the Winter he says. He says they would have drag hunting then up by the airport and it would finish Billy Hallorans pub which is now Bull McCabe’s. Billy Halloran owned Halloran’s Orchard and when he sold that he opened the pub. Tom knew Billy well and he had the pub for years. He adds its still there though now more like a restaurant. He says the pub was very old fashioned back then , there would be dogs in the pub. He says its different back then. People would keep harrier dogs in the home. People wouldn’t have a harrier in the house now.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom speaks about Celia’s pub. He says it was falling apart. The toilet was on the outside he says. The bowling would start there. He mentions Celia Neville and Jack Neville who ran it. He says it was “falling down” but that’s how pubs were like then, rough and ready and dark. He speaks about the freezing cold of the outdoor toilet. He says you can still see the wall of the old pub down where it used to be.</p>
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<p class="western">Tom talks about the route of the bowling. You’d start by Neville’s and he talks about landmarks along the way such as the pink wall which belonged to Barrett’s. The bridge. Maddens corner. The pump. Up Matthew Hill and the Three Sticks, up to Tiger Aherne’s, Tom adds he was a bowler. They would finish by Corcoran’s Bridge, it was all uphill and all downhill. He talks about the traffic nopw and how there are hundreds of houses up Pouladuff and there were harldly any cars back then. He says people haven’t time for things like bowling as time is at a premium.</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0.49cm;background:#ffffff;"><b>Playing Rings and darts. Ma Dullea’s pub. How these pastimes are not as popular these days. Playing cards. The decline in the number of card playing teams. How in the past you could drive after a few pints. Discussion of recent road crash in Donegal. Man who he knew who lived in Donegal and who described it as a kip. Socialising in Barrack St when younger. De Lacey House on Oliver Plunket St. The Gilt Edge pub on Washington St. The Grand Parade Hotel. How then you would walk everywhere and people didn’t do cabs. Fordes pub. Bradley’s pub. Current pubs on Barrack St. Comparisons with Barrack St and Shandon St. Eugenes pub on Shandon St which was owned by Theo Cahill of the Dixies. Anthony “the Bishop” Coughlan. The Chimes bar. More discussion of Cork pubs. How he likes to support the small pubs and shops. Pat Buckley’s bar by the North Infirmary. Dennehy’s pub on the Coal Quay. The Harp bar. </b></p>
<p style="margin-top:0.49cm;margin-bottom:0.49cm;background:#ffffff;">Tom says he plays rings and darts, his local team would be in Ma Dullea’s pub. He would be playing all over the Southside but this has also declined in popularity. He says playing cards has gone the same way. There were once sixty four cards teams but there’s only eighteen now. He says before you could just drive away in the morning after a few pints but you can’t now. There follows a discussion about a recent fatal crash in Donegal. Tom says they are mad for rallying up there. He says he knew he knew a man who lived in Donegal and who said it was a kip. Tom says when he was younger he would socialise mainly on Barrack St. He says he would also go to De Lacey House on Oliver Plunket St which was great for ballads. He also mentions the Gilt Edge pub which is now Preachers. The Grand Parade Hotel. He says you walked everywhere and that time people didn’t really do cabs. Everyone gets cabs now and he quips people have got lazy. He says he never goes into town by night now socialising. Tom says he goes these days to Fordes pub on the bottom of Barrack St. There follows a discussion about Bradleys pub on Barrack St and a barmaid called Lavinia and a discussion on who owns it. A discussion on Barrack St and its pubs follows such as the Pigalle, Tom Barry’s, the Brown Derby and Barbarella’s. Comparisons are made with Shandon St and improvements made to Barrack St. He says Shandon St has gone “cat”. A discussion on Shandon St follows and the Old Reliable and Eugene’s which Tom says was owned by Theo Cahill of the Dixies. A further discussion on Eugenes follows in which Tom speaks of a regular Anthony Coughlan known as “the Bishop”. Tom says the Chimes pub is now gone which was Dinny Donovans place. The Shandon Arms is discussed. The Wolfe Tone is mentioned as closed. Tom says the Gerard Griffin pub is open again. The Tower pub is mentioned as closed. Tom says he likes to support small pubs like small shops, you would like to see them kept open. Tom expresses surprise when James says that Pat Buckley’s pub by the North Infirmary has closed recently. Tom asks is Dennehy’s on the Coal Quay still open to which James says it is. Tom speaks more of Forde’s pub. He speaks about the Harp bar near where he lives.</p>
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<p class="western"><span style="font-size:small;"><b>0.41.28 - 0.48.05</b></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>How their aunts Kitty and Bridey would do the shopping when he was young. A small shop down Pouladuff Road. Hegarty’s Shop. How there were no supermarkets then. Corner shops that would have a book marking what you owed and you pay at the end of the month. The gasman calling around. The gas meter. Going off on a holiday once a year with the aunts. Staying in a caravan in Garretstown. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>One of the Harris’s whose job it was to light the public gas lamps. Toms father who used to drive the horse and cart for the Harris’s to the Coal Quay. Memories of seeing horses and carts around. A man who kept pigs and who would come around on a horse and cart collecting slops. Murphy’s bacon factory. Lunham’s bacon factory on Tramore Road. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Bonfire Night. It being held just across from where they lived. How when they were young they would be singing around the fire. How in later years it got messier. Weeks of preparation collecting material, tyres and wooden pallets etc. How it was the highlight of the year along with Halloween. Young and old alike participating. Playing the squeezebox. How you could leave your door open that time with the key in the door. How people could walk in and ask if they had sugar or some milk. Leaving the key in the door up to twenty years ago. How if a neighbour wanted a hand with something you would help them out. Community spirit in Ballypheane. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom says he knew nothing about shopping growing up as their aunts Kitty and Bridey would do all the shopping as they reared them. He mentions a small shop down Pouladuff Road, Hegartys Shop that is long gone. He says there were no supermarkets then, there were small corner shops and he says they were robbing people. They would have a book in the shop marking down what you owed and you pay at the end of the month. The gasman would come then and he might give something back, he adds there was a meter for the gas and points where it was in his house though it is now blocked off. He says they would go off once a year for a holiday with the aunts and they would be bored and wanting to come back after a day. They would go to Garretstown or somewhere like that staying in a caravan. Their uncle or someone that they knew would drop them down.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom mentions a relative, one of the Harris’s who worked in the gasworks and whose job it was to light the public gas lamps. This was going back many years he says. He says his father told him he used to drive a horse and cart for the Harris’s down to the Coal Quay. Tom says he remembers horses and carts around himself. He remembers a man who kept pigs and who used to come around in a horse and cart and collect slops. Tom speaks about Murphy’s bacon factory and Lunham’s which was up Tramore Road. He says a lot of the big supermarkets got rid of a lot of these places.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom speaks about Bonfire Night. He says there would be across from where they grew up. He say when they were young they would be singing around the bonfire but in later years it got very messy. He says you would be involved in collecting the material, timber pallets and tyres but mostly timber. He says it be prepared weeks in advance. He says the corporation would sometimes take away the pile of material. He says it was one of the highlights of the year along with Halloween. He says young and old would be out and people would be playing the squeezebox and the banjo. He says you could leave your door open that time. People could walk in and ask if they had some sugar or a drop of milk. He says that’s how it was then. He says they would leave the key in their front door up to twenty years ago. If people wanted a hand with something you would give them a hand. A general discussion of community and Ballypheane follows. He speaks about community spirit in Ballypheane. He talks about community spirit in rural places such as Skibbereen which he would visit. He speaks about how neighbours helped out when he had to look after his uncle. He mentions how he has the key for his neighbours for helping out. He speaks about a woman whose neighbour helps out with giving her eye drops.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Playing in the Lough Leagues. Danny Coughlan. Playing with the Barrs through Greenmount School. Cork players Gerald Mack and Peter Doolan how they started off with the Barrs. How the Barrs would come to the school to ask them to play with the team. When the Barrs were based on Bandon Road and then moved to Togher. When you had to pay to go to Barrs matches. How to an older generation they would be a Bandon Road team. The Ballypheane team considered junior. Gerald Mack. The pressures of running a team. Having to turn up Saturday. How he used to run a team but wouldn’t do it again. How he has great time for the GAA. How people who criticise it are those who wouldn’t give the time for it. How people in Ballypheane didn’t have much to do with soccer or rugby. He mentions Sundays Well and Dolphins rugby teams. He says of Dolphins that not many people in Ballypheane had anything g to do with them and they all came from other pats of the city. He says the only local of note to play with them was Phil O Callaghan. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom says he played in the Lough Leagues hurling. He says that was with Danny Coughlan. He says the Lough Leagues have been brought back recently. He says Greenmount School was also the Barrs. He says famous Cork players Gerald Mack and Peter Doolan started off with the Barrs from when the Barrs would call out to the school. He says in later years he was involved in street leagues for about eight years with Out The Barrs. He says the Barrs were originally based on Bandon Road and then moved out to Togher. He says they never really interacted with the local community in Togher but they had to go somewhere. He says out the Barrs you had to pay to get into matches when he was young. He says nowadays they are seen as a Togher team but to the older generation they would be Bandon Road. He says they had a pitch in Togher years ago but they were considered Bandon Road. He says the Ballypheane team were only considered junior. He says Ballypheane had some good players like Gerald Mack whose father played with the Lough. You can’t get people to run a team now he says, he did it for a while but he wouldn’t do it again. He says you have to turn up Saturday and Sunday mornings. He says then a mother might be an hour late and you’d have to wait around minding their child, he jokes that it was like a babysitting service. He thinks the GAA are a brilliant organisation. He says they had nothing to do with Casement soccer team, it was all GAA. He says it was the same with rugby. He says of Dolphins Rugby Team that not many people in Ballypheane had anything to do with them and they all came from other pats of the city. He says the only local of note to play with them was Phil O Callaghan who played with Ireland and the Lions<b>. </b>He says rugby was a different kind of middle class game.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Stories told heard about the War Of Independence period. Connie Neenan whom Neenan Park is named after. A story heard about a girl who was shot dead on Washington St. Storys read about atrocities. How parts of Cork City were very republician. Story about how Connie Neenan was supposed to have stolen a load of money. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Family links with the sculptor Edward Ambrose. How he was sent to Rome by the people of the Lough Parish. Tom’s brother going in to see his work in the Crawford. The Crawford Schools new premises on Grand Parade. How this used to be a gentlemen’s club. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Joe Murphy Road. Joe Murphy who died on hunger strike. A story heard that his aunts friend Peggy Murphy’s father was the man the British had been looking for. Joe Murphy’s nephews the Delaney’s. How the council were prevented from knocking the Joe Murphy house. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom says you would hear the odd thing about the War Of Independence period. He says when they were out the Barrs Neenan Park they would play Neenan Park which was named after Connie Neenan. They would hear a story about a girl on Washington St and a bullet hit the ground and killed her. He says you’d hear that and wouldn’t know if it was true or not. He said you might read books and read about how Connie Neenan was supposed to have shot young lads. He says parts of Cork City were very republician. He says people say about Connie Noonan that he stole a load of money. Connie Neenan is long dead he says.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom speaks of the famous sculptor Edward Ambrose who was a relative of his grandmother. He went to Rome and was sent there by the people of the Lough Parish. Tom says he lived past the lights on Pearse Road. Tom say his elder brother went down to the Crawford to see his work and said shure he’s dead years. Tom did some research on him and he has some work in the Crawford School. Talk then turns to the Crawfords new premises on Grand Parade which used to be a gentlemen’s club. He says CIT bought that.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Talk moves to social clubs in the places he worked in. Dunlop’s had a social club and Fords had none. The mill had a sort of a club. He says Apple had a brilliant social club and he says he had brilliant nights out with them. He says they’re planning on having a 30<sup>th</sup> anniversary reunion for the Apple staff. He says Apple was the only job he was in where you could sit down and work, every other club you were standing. He says he was never at the Grocers Club which James says is one of the last clubs of its type in town and across from the Ivory Tower.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">James asks if Tom has any stories about Joe Murphy whom Joe Murphy Road is named after. Tom says Joe Murphy lived down Pouladuff Road and he was the Granduncle of one of Tom’s friends. Joe Murphy died on hungerstrike during the War Of Independence. Tom says one of his aunts friends Peggy Murphy it was supposed to be her father they were looking for but he’s not sure if this is true or not. A discussion of Joe Murphy’s hungerstrike in Cork Prison follows. He says he knows Joe Murphy’s nephews the Delaney’s who lived in his old house and it has a plaque on the wall. He says that the council were trying to knock Joe Murphy’s house one time but they were stopped from knocking them.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The significance of place names in Ballypheane named after Republican martyrs. Wondering why they were named after them and not out in Bishopstown or Douglas. Being proud of the street being named after Padraig Pearse. Willy Pearse, Padraig Pearses brother and how he was also executed. The school the Pearse brothers ran. How some people locally are named Pearse after Padraig Pearse. People ringing about broadband and spelling it incorrectly. The 1966 50’th anniversary commemorations of 1916. The attempt to blow up De Valera at the Republican Plot at St Finbarr’s Cemetery. Jerry Madden who survived the explosion and lost an eye and a leg. How the bomb went off too soon killing one of the plotters. Tom Barry. How he would see Tom Barry Around town drinking. How Tom Barry’s sister used to be in the Red Cross with Tom’s sister Helen. How Tom Barry was private and would not talk about the Flying Column days. How he would see him and people would say that’s Tom Barry. About the terrain down in West Cork and its suitability for fighting an enemy. </b></p>
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<p class="western">James asks did it mean anything to him growing up with all the place names after republican martyrs such as Pearse Road, Kent Road etc. Tom says he used to wonder why they were named after them and not out in Bishopstown or Douglas. He says they were proud of being named after Pearse. He talks about the Plaque to Pearse down the road and mentions that Pearse brother Willy was executed as well. A discussion about the Pearse brothers and the school they ran follows. Her talks about the way some people in the area are called Pearse after Padraig Pearse and spell it the same way.. He says people would ring about broadband or whatever and would be spelling it Pierce. Tom speaks of memories of the 1966 50’th anniversary of the 1916 Rising. James asks him about the bomb plot to blow up De Valera at the Republican Plot. Tom says he knew one of those involved who survived, another plotter was killed he says. Tom explains that De Valera was coming down. He doesn’t know whether the plotters were trying to kill De Valera or not. James goes on to say that De Valera was set to be there at three O Clock and they set the bomb for the wrong three O Clock and the bomb went off prematurely. He speaks of Jerry Madden who came from a Republican family and who lost an eye and a leg who died up to a few years ago. He speaks about how you would see Tom Barry, the Old IRA commander around. He sassy if Tom Barry around you wouldn’t say anything to him. Tom says he would see him around town drinking. He says Tom Barry’s wife used to be in the Red Cross with Helen, Toms sister. He says he doesn’t think Tom Barry wouldn’t discuss anything about the War Of Independence or anything like that, he thinks he would be private. Tom never spoke to him himself but he remembers seeing him around and fellows saying that’s Tom Barry. He says he works for the Vincent De Paul and he goes down to West Cork a lot and he says you can see how its great terrain for mounting an ambush. A discussion follows where James says he’s from East Cork, Youghal.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Wren Boys on St Stephens Day. His cousins the Colemans in Halfway. Martin Coleman Cork hurler. The Coleman’s petrol station and post office in Halfway. How rural areas are in decline. The Wren Boys outfits, how they hardly ever came around in the city. Trick Or Treating on Halloween. How they never went beyond the traffic lights when they were young. The dump. “The Dumpa”. How they used to play in this. How recycling has taken over. The old city dump. How travellers used to be there collecting stuff. The travellers in Black Ash. Old barrel top caravans. A place in Blarney that would hire them out to tourists. A traveller man who would come and fix his grandmothers pots. How industrial farming and the Traveller Act brought in by Charley Haughey. Toms Grandfather Jerimiah Falvey who worked down the docks and died in 1946. Tom’s uncle Derry. How Toms family lived for a while on Grand Parade and his older brother was born there. How two uncles and two aunts lived locally. His aunt Kitty Falvey getting married. How people would stick to their own place then. Tom going up the Northside to play hurling against the under age Na Piarsaigh. He also mentions Brian Dillon’s up the Tank Field. Playing against the Glen. How there was a big rivalry between the Barr’s and Blackrock and the Glen. How one they would be all fighting and it’s more refined now. How you need rivalry in sport. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Cork versus Kilkenny 1972 his first All Ireland. Cork winning the football in 73. Pairc Ui Caoimh. The old Athletics Ground. Croagh Pairc. Thoughts on the upcoming Liam Miller testimonial match. The GAA ban on foreign sports. Story from James about how he played both rugby and GAA and the GAA changed the days of the training. Tom on how the Barr’s would have an awkward relationship with the soccer club Greenwood. Christy Cooney GAA president. Declan Dalton. Joe Deane. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom says there would have been Wren Boys around on St Stephens Day. He says he never did it himself but they would have called locally. He speaks of cousins in Halfway who were very into it. Tom’s family would visit them and they would come up once a year. He mentions Martin Coleman who played in goal for Cork hurling. His mother and his mother were sisters. They were very big into the Wren Boys in the country now. He says they would call once a year. They had a petrol station and a post office down there but there’s nothing there now he says. He speaks about how rural areas are being devastated. He says the Wren Boys would be wearing all kinds of things on their head and you’d be half afraid of them. He says they hardly ever came around in the city just a few young lads messing. He says they would trick or treat on Halloween. He says they wouldn’t have a bonfire locally on Halloween but some other places would. He says as young lads they wouldn’t be fighting with youths from other areas, he jokes they weren’t worth it. He says they never strayed beyond the traffic lights. He says they would be called in around nine O clock when they were around fifteen. He talks about The dump or “The Dumpa” as it was known locally. He says it would be all rats but nothing like the dumps now. He remembers the old city dump. He says now it’s all recycling. He says then there would be all beds and clothes thrown around and the travellers would be there loading their vans with stuff. He speaks of the travellers who would camp in Black Ash. He says he found them all right, they would be doing their own thing. He never went down to have a ride of the horses as he’d be afraid of a horse. He supposes some fellas would. He says there would be caravans parked down there. He recalls seeing the old barrel top caravans. He says there was a place in Blarney that would hire out these and they were very popular with tourists at one point but he supposes they wouldn’t be able to travel on the roads these days. He remembers a traveller coming around fixing his grandmothers pots and his grandmother would give him some money. A discussion follows on how they draw social welfare these days and how industrial farming has affected their lifestyle and also the Traveller Act brought in by Charley Haughey. He say when he was young they were fine. He says his grandmother is dead since 1966 so it was before that. He says his Grandfather Jerimiah died in 1946 when he was 63 and he worked down the docks. He had a bad heart. He had a son called Derry, Tom’s uncle. Tom says they lived in Pouladuff at first before moving to Ballypheane. Tom can’t remember any of his own time living in Bandon Road when he was young. He says his family lived prior to that on the Grand Parade where his older brother Jerry was born. He says his father lived in another house when they got that house when Tom’s mother died, the house he lives in now was his aunts house. He says his family lived at 220 and 223. He says there were two uncles and two aunts living locally then one Aunt Kitty got married, she is the mother of his cousin Eleanor Moore. He says then you kept to your own place.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Tom says that he himself would go up the Northside playing hurling against Na Piarsaigh underage and Brian Dillon’s up the Tank Field. He says other than that some people wouldn’t go outside their own road. He says he didn’t care about the fact that he was going up the Northside. It was like an outing going to play. They would be going playing against Na Piarsaigh, Mayfield, Brian Dillon’s plus the Glen and Blackrock and also Douglas. He says there was big rivalry between the Barr’s and the Glen and Blackrock. In the past they would be fighting and “having murder” but it’s more refined now. He says you have to have rivalry and it can’t be a gentleman’s game.</p>
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<p class="western">Tom says the first ALL-Ireland was in 1972 which was Cork and Kilkenny in hurling. He says Kilkenny won that. He says he went to see Cork win the football the following year. He went to loads of All Irelands after. He has been to the new Croagh Pairc as well as Pairc Ui Caoimh. He speaks about the old Athletic Park that was there before Pairc Ui Caoimh. He speaks about the newly built Pairc Ui Caoimh and compares it with Croaic Pairc. He speaks about the upcoming Liam Miller testimonial match which he thinks will be brilliant. He speaks about the foreign rules ban and about how they allowed Michael Jackson and American football. He says that when you see in a village the GAA pitch and the soccer pitch is better then you know they’re not cooperating. James tells a story of how he used to play rubgy and also GAA and that when the GAA found out they changed the day of training to coincide with it so he had to make a choice and choose rugby. Tom says the Barr’s would be like that with the soccer club Greenwood. He says Greenwood would be trying to help with the Barr’s would be awkward. He says the Barr’s haven’t won anything in years. James says since Christy Cooney took over as GAA president the money has been flying into the clubs. A discussion about Youghal follows and players such as Declan Dalton and Joe Deane are discussed. Tom says Joe Deane is a small man but tough.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>More on Ballypheane. Pat Allen “Pat The Picket”. How he was a great character and was well loved by all. How he would dress up in outfits including as Santa. How he died of cancer. How he would have placards for every occasion. Another character called Donny Sutton from Tory Top Road. How Pat The Picket would be wearing a black bin. How he started protesting when he was young. Pat The Picket. Going to the Republican Plot in St Finbarr’s. A man who is involved in the volunteer pipe band. How in days gone by the priest or doctor would have done house calls but that’s no more. </b></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">James asks Tom about legendary stories about Ballypheane. Tom says that they never had much to do with Ballypheane. He does speak about the well known character. Pat Allen who was better known as Pat The Picket. He says he knew him well. He was a great character and people used to love him. If you had a grievance he was the man to go to. He would dress as Santa and all kinds of outfits. He says he was great for the community. Tom says he died of cancer and wouldn’t have been much older than himself. He thinks he had a brother who died as well. He would have a placard for every occasion. He speaks about another character called Donny Sutton from Tory Top Road. James talks about him that he’d be wearing all kinds of outfits like Sergeant Pepper and A Roman Centurion. Tom goes on to say that Pat The Pickett would be sometimes dressed in a black bin. Tom say Pat was always doing the picketing and protesting since his teens. Tom says he would be brought to court and the judge would say to fine him a pound. He would always be out the Republican Plot. He says they would never go to St Josephs Cemetery, always the Republican Plot in St Finbarrs and they would hear the marching band coming and they would go out with them, people would bring their children. He says not people go out now. He speaks about a man who is the volunteer pipe band, his name is Donie, he doesn’t know his surname.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">He says there wouldn’t have been stations in the house, that would have been a country thing. He says in days gone by the priest or doctor would have called out to the grandmother but that sort of thing is gone by the board now, he says there’s no house call’s now.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">The interview is brought to an end and Tom jokes that we’ll have to come back in ten years.</p>
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Tom Falvey: Ballyphehane, Market Gardens
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Life History: Ballyphehane, Market Gardens, Childhood, Travellers, Sports
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Tom speaks about how he was born on Bandon Road. On moving to and growing up on Killeenreendowney Avenue and then Pearse Road in Ballyphehane. The primary school in Glasheen. Activities such as walking the Lee Fields. Playing hurling with the Barrs. On road bowling and famous bowlers such as Mick Barry, Dennis Scully and Mick Sexton. Bowling routes such as Pouladuff Road. Celia’s pub. Memories of hunting and drag hunting. On working in Fords and memories of its closure in 1984. Memories of working in Apple in the 1990s. Odlum’s Mill. On doing a marine-related course and studying Morse Code. Landmarks locally such as the Three Fields and the Well Field. “The Dumpa”. The Black Ash. The Lough. Old cricket grounds near the Lough. The significance of roads in Ballypheane named after Republican martyrs. Padraig Pearse. Hunger Stricker Joe Murphy. Stories heard of the War Of Independence. Old IRA member Connie Neenan. Memories of Tom Barry. The Republican Plot explosion. Plot to blow up De Valera. Hurling, soccer and rugby teams in Ballypheane and the Southside. Underage hurling. The GAA. Local characters Charlie The Bogman, Pat The Picket and Donny Sutton. Pubs in Cork. The Credit Unions. The culture shock of his brother coming back from England with aftershave and deodorant. Market gardens in Ballypheane. The Harris family and their involvement in market gardens. The sculptor Edward Ambrose. Going to see the Pope in 1979. The moving statue of Ballinspittle. Seeing Bob Marley in concert. Togher. Stonemasons. Travellers. Travelling tinsmiths. Barrel top caravans. Memories of the Tuskar Rock air tragedy. The Fastnet disaster. The Buttevant Train crash. “The Battle Of Ballypheane”. Hang Dog Road in Ballypheane and how it got its name. Playing darts and rings.
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5 September 2018
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Interviewee: Tom Falvey
Interviewer: James Furey
Interviewer: David McCarthy
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CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018
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Cork; Ireland; Ballyphehane; Pearse Road; 1950s - 2000s
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<div class="element-text"><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:</div>
<div class="element-text"><br />Furey, Jamie (2012) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a></div>
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Cork Folklore Project
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English
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Ballyphehane
Ballyphehane Oral History Project
Ballyphehane Pipe Band
Battle of Ballyphehane
Bob Marley
Buttevant Train Crash
Credit Union
Eamon de Valera
Fastnet Disaster
GAA
Hurling
Papal Visit 1979
Road Bowling
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St. Finbarr's Cemetery
St. Finbarr's GAA
Stonemasons
The Lough
Tom Barry
Travellers
Tuskar Rock Air Tragedy
War of Independence
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The Cork Memory Map Collection
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A place-based interviewing project exploring everyday life in Cork City, with excerpts disseminated on a series of online digital maps.
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A place-based interviewing project exploring everyday life in Cork City, with excerpts disseminated on a series of online digital maps. <br /><br />In 2010, the Cork Folklore Project initiated a new collection and dissemination project, entitled the Cork Memory Map. We wished to step up our interviewing programme and enhance public access to our holdings through the creation of an online map of stories and memories. A central concern in this initial stage was to keep our research agenda as open as possible in terms of generating accounts of everyday life in the city down through the years. As we were not carrying out topic-focussed interviews (in contrast to previous projects on topics such as song in the Northside, drag hunting and occupational lore), the place-based focus enabled us to explore everyday life at different stages of interviewees’ life histories, remaining open to cues from the interviewees while maintaining a sense of direction and purpose for all involved. The fact that the interviews were structured around memories of place, rather than taking the form of life history interviews, also had an impact on the material gathered. The initial phase of interviewing was carried out in the main with older residents of Cork City, Ireland, who grew up in the city centre or adjacent suburbs and who were born between 1929 and 1950. Lasting between 45 minutes and two hours, individual interviews in the Memory Map project tend to follow a similar pattern. A description of the interviewee’s childhood neighbourhood is followed by a succession of ‘grand tour’ questions about daily routines, work and play within the neighbourhood. Places important or familiar to interviewees were explored, as were routes habitually taken through the landscape. This narrative base was used as a springboard for using cues provided by the interviewees as the basis for follow-up questions on significant people and activities mentioned. <br />A sub-collection of shorter interviews was generated during Heritage Week (20-28 August) 2011. The Cork Folklore Project, in collaboration with Civic Trust House, launched the Memory Map Project with an exhibition and collection event throughout the week. Visitors to the exhibition were invited to ‘put themselves on the map’ through short interviews. The Memory Map also featured in a ten-minute Curious Ear documentary broadcast on RTÉ Radio 1 during Heritage Week, and available as a podcast (The Curious Ear/Documentary on One (Cork City Memory Map) http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/2011/0816/646858-curious-ear-doconone-cork-city-memory-map/).<br /><br />The bulk of the interviews were carried out between July and December 2010 (21 interviews), with 9 full-length interviews carried out in the second half of 2011, along with 18 shorter interviews carried out during heritage week, 23-27 August 2011, and 9 interviews in the second half of 2012. 1 video interview was carried out in January 2014 with Memory Map interviewee Pat Speight. The design for the map and supporting database design was carried out by Cheryl Donaghue (UCC) as project work for an MSc in Interactive Media, with assistance from Colin Mac Hale. <br />The Project received support for the further technical development of the map from the Irish Heritage Council in 2012. The map itself has undergone various iterations, the most recent being its preparation for use on the Omeka platform by the CFP team and PhD candidate Penny Johnston in 2016/2017.<br /><br />Existing and subsequent interviews from the CFP collections have also been utilised for the online mapping dissemination project: the interviews designated as ‘memory map’ interviews are those carried out specifically with the map in mind from 2010 onwards. Support: This project was supported by the Heritage Council of Ireland in the Heritage Education Community and Outreach grant scheme, 2012, and also received support from the Cork City Council Community Grants Scheme. <br /><br /><strong>For further description and discussion of the Cork Memory Map project, see:</strong> <br />O’Carroll, Clíona (2011) ‘The Cork Memory Map’, Béascna 7: 184-188. <br /><br />O’Carroll, Clíona (2012) ‘Cork Memory Map: an update on CFP’s Online Project’, The Archive 16: 14. https://www.ucc.ie/en/media/research/corkfolkloreproject/archivepdfs/archive16.PDF <br /><br />Dee, Stephen and O’Carroll, Clíona (2012) ‘Sound Excerpts: Interviews from Heritage Week’, The Archive 16: 15-17. https://www.ucc.ie/en/media/research/corkfolkloreproject/archivepdfs/archive16.PDF <br /><br />Clíona O'Carroll (2014) 'The children's perspectives: Place-centred interviewing and multiple diversified livelihood strategies in Cork city, 1935-1960'. Béaloideas - The Journal of Folklore of Ireland Society, 82: 45-65.<br /><br />To view the Cork Memory Map Click <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/memory-map/">Here</a>
Date
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2010 - 2013
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Cork, Ireland, 1930s - 2010s,
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O’Carroll, Clíona (2011) ‘The Cork Memory Map’, Béascna 7: 184-188. <br /><br />O’Carroll, Clíona (2012) ‘Cork Memory Map: an update on CFP’s Online Project’, The Archive 16: 14. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/archive16.pdf">https://www.ucc.ie/en/media/research/corkfolkloreproject/archivepdfs/archive16.PDF</a> <br /><br />Dee, Stephen and O’Carroll, Clíona (2012) ‘Sound Excerpts: Interviews from Heritage Week’, The Archive 16: 15-17. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/archive16.pdf">https://www.ucc.ie/en/media/research/corkfolkloreproject/archivepdfs/archive16.PDF</a> <br /><br />O'Carrol, Clíona (2014) 'The children's perspectives: Place-centred interviewing and multiple diversified livelihood strategies in Cork city, 1935-1960'. Béaloideas - The Journal of Folklore of Ireland Society, 82: 45-65. <br /><br />The Curious Ear/Documentary on One (Cork City Memory Map) <a href="http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/2011/0816/646858-curious-ear-doconone-cork-city-memory-map/">http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/2011/0816/646858-curious-ear-doconone-cork-city-memory-map/</a>
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project
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English
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Audio; Video
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<strong>Interviewees:</strong> Breda Sheehan (2 Interviews); Geraldine Healy: Johnny 'Chris' Kelleher; Marie Crean; James 'Jim' Mckeon; Brenda Twomey (RA); Breda St Leger; Pat Speight (1 Audio, 1 Video); Sean Lane; Pat O'Brien (O'Leary); Eileen Jones; Pat Saville; Noel Magnier; Mary Marshall; Paddy Marshall; Denis Murphy: Helen Prout (2 Interviews); Donie Walsh; Margaret Newman (4 Interviews); Kevin Leahy; Marie Finn; Pádraig Ó'Horgáin; Michael O Connell; Mary Sheehy; Bernie McLoughlin; Derrick Gerety; Peggy Kelleher; Sandra Byrne (RA); Noreen Cronin; Liam Ó h-Uigín (2 Interviews); Nicole Meacle; Una Lyons; Helen Goulding; Bernard Casey; Dragan Tomas; Pete Newman (Duffy); Brenda Stillwell; Creena O'Connell; Joseph Lane; Mary Montgomery McConville; Michael (Mick) O'Callaghan; Phil Corcoran; Thomas Jones (2 Interviews); Patricia (Pat) McCarthy; Fergal Crowley; Pat O'Brien; Tony McGillicuddy; Alice Delay; Barry Murphy; Patrick Fitzgerald
<strong>Interviewers:</strong> Breda Sheehan (6 Interviews); Gráinne McGee (7 Interviews); Cliona O'Carroll (12 Interviews); Stephen Dee (3 Interviews); Geraldine Healy (2 Interviews); Michael Daly; Helen Kelly (6 Interviews); Gearoid Ó'Donnell (6 Interviews); Tom Doig (2 Interviews) John Elliot (3 Interviews); Alvina Cassidy; Eanna Heavey: Majella Murphy; Mark Wilkins; Richard Clare; Louise Ahern; Ian Stephenson; Annmarie McIntyre;
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<strong>Catalogue Numbers:</strong> <br /><br /><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/101" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00387_sheehan_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/101" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00388_sheehan_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/103" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00389_healy_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/104" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00390_kelleher_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/105" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00391_crean_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/106" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00392_mckeon_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/107" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00393_twomey_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/108">CFP_SR00394_stleger_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/3">CFP_SR00395_speight_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/109" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00396_lane_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/110" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00397_obrienoleary_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/111" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00398_jones_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/112" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00399_saville_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/113" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00400_magnier_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/114">CFP_SR00401_marshall_2010</a>;<a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/115" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> CFP_SR00402_marshall_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/116">CFP_SR00403_murphy_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/117">CFP_SR00404_prout_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/118">CFP_SR00405_walsh_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/119" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00406_prout_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/120">CFP_SR00407_newman_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/121" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00408_newman_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/122" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00409_leahy_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/123" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00411_newman_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/124" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00412_newman_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/125" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00413_finn_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/126" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00414_ohorgain_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/127" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00415_oconnell_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/128" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00416_sheehy_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/129" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00417_mcloughlin_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/130" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00418_gerety_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/131" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00419_kelleher_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/132" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00420_byrne_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/133" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00421_cronin_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/134" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00422_ohuigin_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/135" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00423_meacle_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/136" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00424_horgan_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/137" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00425_lyons_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/138" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00427_goulding_2011</a>; <br /><br />CFP_SR00491_fitzgerald_2013. <br /><br /><strong>Heritage Week 2011:</strong> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/139" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00429_casey_201</a>1; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/140" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00430_tomas_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/141" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00431_newman_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/142" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00432_stillwell_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/143" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00433_oconnell_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/144" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00434_lane_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/145" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00435_montgomery-mcconville_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/146" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00436_ocallaghan_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/147" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00437_corcoran_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/148">CFP_SR00438_jones_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00439_ohuigin_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/149" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00440_mccarthy_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/150" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00441_crowley_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/151" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00442_obrien_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/152" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00443_jones_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/153" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00444_mcgillicuddy_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/154" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00445_delay_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/155" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00446_murphy_2011</a>; <br /><br /><strong>Video Interview:</strong> CFP_VR00486_speight_2014
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Michael O'Callaghan
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Cliona O'Carroll
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8min 45sec
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Civic Trust House
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.wav
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">C OC: So, just to kick off there, you might tell me your name.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">M OC Michael O’Callaghan. I’m from Togher. My mother, my father and myself left Cork in 1960. I was only three. To go to London. Big adventure. I have strong memories of sailing on the old black and white Inishfallen from the quays below because it seemed a very very sad thing. Not like today, travelling. As the ship was leaving all the people would start singing, and the song still haunts me. They sing the song ‘now is the hour when we must say goodbye’. So, you could have a couple of hundred people because a lot of people getting on that boat weren’t going away for a weekend. They might never come back. And there used to be people wailing and crying on the ship. And my mother and me father, me mother especially, would be crying a lot. But the ship would go slowly down, and you could drive down Low Road in both directions, and there’d be cars following it down all the way. And then you had a long sea journey to Fishguard. You’d leave. I’d memories of leaving Cork about six o’clock in the evening, arriving in Fishguard in the middle of the night. A long wait then in the cold, and the smell of fish in Fishguard and someone told me it’s dead mullet. I know now, and also Bovril. If you mention to a lot of people Bovril, it seemed it was all you could get there. And I still to this day can’t. If I smell Bovril I can’t take it. Then you’d have a five or six hour journey by train from Fishguard to Paddington. And the other way round then, we’d come home every summer. My Grandmother lived in Glenabbey Street, and she hadn’t electric light. This was in the sixties. She actually hadn’t electricity, and I can still remember the gas lamps, the lamps would be lit. She’d cook on the fire. And I can still remember the food, and at night they’d just sit there talking for hours. I’d have been seven, eight, nine or ten. But I used to love it. With my grandfather and my grandmother. The house is still in Glenabbey Street. Now it’s rented accommodation. There’s students in there. But that black Inisfallen. I bought a photograph of it from The Examiner. It was a memory I’ll never forget that song and the smell of Bovril.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">C OC That’s so vivid. Do you remember how the song went.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">M OC No. You can get it on the internet if you Google it. Now is the hour when we must say goodbye. Soon you will be sailing far across the sea. If you google it you’ll get the words. I don’t know. It’s an American/Irish singer but if you play that song I guarantee to anyone in their fifties and older, they’ll think of that. But then I can also remember we’d come home in the summer, the long train journey from Paddington to Fishguard, then you’d get on the ship but in the morning she’d pass Roche’s Point about seven o’clock in the morning, and I can remember coming up the river. I can remember passing the marina, in the morning, and people waving at the boat. That was a happy time. My mother would be up doing her make up, I can remember and all that. And the boat would come up to where the river splits there by, I don’t know the name of the quay there</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">C OC The Port of Cork.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">M OC The Cork building. Just before that the boat would actually do a turn to be facing out to sea again. If I remember rightly we used to arrive on a Sunday morning but then she’d sail Sunday evening again. But it was a long slow journey. The boat stank as far as I was concerned. It was a floating pub. But they used to keep cattle underneath as well. And I’d be sick the day before we travelled with worry, and I’d be sick the day after we arrived having travelled. But the memories of that ship and that song. Get the song from Google, ‘Now is the hour when we have to say goodbye’. But it was like a coffin ship going off. And also arriving. When you arrived the Customs would go through your case. And a big lump of chalk would be plastered on the case, that was to get you through the security. If the chalk was on your case you were OK. So that’s me.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">C OC Wow. Jeepers. Thanks for that. That’s really vivid.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">M OC It was a long way away at that stage. We used to ring home, now me mother used to write letters to my grandfather. And he’d write back and the letters would come religiously every week from him. Maybe once a fortnight from my mother. Not as quick. Things got a bit better then, we’d ring from a phone box to a phone box on the North side to my aunt, via operators. We’d be shoving in two bob bits and all the rest of it. I can remember he’d ring on a Friday night. There could be a queue at the phone box, or there could be a queue at the phone box in Farranree. So they’d be waiting at both ends. You’d ring and someone else would pick up the phone. London was a long way away then.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">C OC Can you remember the first time that you came back for the summer and your impressions of Cork then after having been in London?</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">M OC Yeah. I didn’t want to go back to London. Cause we were playing with relations in the North side and relations in Ballyphehane. In London it was a rather built up area where we lived. So we came back here. And I’d be gone in the morning and dragged in late at night, having been out playing football, kick the can, which I’d never heard of, and all those things. So I used to be depressed going back to London. It was just outdoor, always sunny. Red lemonade, I’d never seen. White vinegar I’d never seen. And Taytos. Rasa was a phrase. My Grandad used to take me to the pub. I didn’t realise he was getting it for nothing. You know, it was for half nothing that I’d be drinking Rasa. Also getting I’d be hanging my parents now [inaudible phrase], getting the bus to Crosshaven. We’d go to Crosshaven with my cousins. They’d go into the pub and myself and my cousins clung to the wall outside the pub, in the corner of Crosshaven for hours. We set our DNAs on that wall definitely. And then we’d come home in the evening and for years we used to talk about Crosshaven. And I’d say ‘sure there’s nothing there’. I didn’t think there was anything in Crosshaven. I just thought it was a square. Honestly. So in later years I brought my own children down there. I found Graball Bay [sounds like], and all those. But the bus to Crosshaven for the pub. Everyone did it. Stayed in the pub all day, and then got the bus back. That was the adventure. Also when I used to come I was the rich person from England. Choc Ices. My cousins still joke about Mick coming home with the Choc Ices. We’d go to the shop and I’d have money for Choc Ices, which they wouldn’t have got. We had some money but the lads here didn’t have as much. And two other things, I’ll bore you to tears. My aunts had televisions with slot machines in them. You’d put money in and that’s how they paid the rental on the television. The television shops in town. They couldn’t afford the rent on the telly. So there was a slot machine on the telly same as a ESB machine. So you’d be watching it, and the next thing the money would go and the telly would go. So someone would run looking for a shilling or two bob to put into it. You’d get an hour or two hours out of it. And the last one was they used to put blue plastic over the television trying to pretend it was colour. Honestly.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">C OC Brilliant!</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">M OC I thought it was a wind up. But they did. But the slot machines for the television, I remember that now, just come back to me there. You might get an hour for a shilling or something. But in the middle of something it would go. I thought it was prehistoric. I’d colour telly in London at this stage. I thought it was totally prehistoric. And always one channel or two channels. But I loved it back here. I didn’t want to go home. We came home for good in ’74. Thank God. I was seventeen.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">C OC What was that like now, arriving back from London at seventeen?</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">M OC That was a little bit of a shocker because I’d settled down in London. I’d lots of friends there, but I settled down very quickly. And I took my father, [pause], we’d a big birthday recently. My daughter was twenty. I was fifty and my dad was eighty and I took him back to London for the first time since ’74. And we stayed near where we lived. Where we lived now is in the Kensington area. At the time it was a little bit run down, now it’s all millionaires there. It was just amazing to see it. But I had it for a few days. And I took my children there a few years before that to see where I went to school. School in London. It was nice to see it. It was nice to come home. London is grand for a week. But, everywhere we went in London was Irish, Irish, Irish. We’d often have Cork people staying in our house for a night or two, that had come over. And the Irish clubs, the Irish pubs full of Cork people. Everywhere. They were everywhere. That’s my memories of London now.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-left:1.5cm;text-indent:-1.5cm;margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;">C OC Well, thank you very much. Excellent.</p>
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Michael O'Callaghan: Togher, Emigration, Summer Holidays,
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Michael was born in 1957. Originally from Togher. Michael’s family emigrated to London in 1960. He remembers the ship leaving Cork on the Inishfallen, and people singing and crying at the quayside. They sang the popular song “Now Is The Hour” [Bing Crosby, 1948]. The family came back to visit every Summer; he remembers his grandmother’s house still had no electricity in the 1960s. he contrasts life at home with life in London. Television sets had slots to put money into them to pay for an hour’s viewing.
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24 August 2011
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Interviewee: Michael O'Callaghan
Interviewer: Cliona O'Carroll
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CFP_SR00436_o'callaghan_2011
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Cork, Ireland, 1960s-1980s
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<div class="element-text"><strong></strong><strong>Other Interviews in the Colection:</strong> <br /><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/101" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/101" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00387_sheehan_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/101" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00388_sheehan_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/103" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00389_healy_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/104" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00390_kelleher_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/105" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00391_crean_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/106" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00392_mckeon_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/107" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00393_twomey_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/108">CFP_SR00394_stleger_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/3">CFP_SR00395_speight_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/109" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00396_lane_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/110" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00397_obrienoleary_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/111" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00398_jones_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/112" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00399_saville_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/113" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00400_magnier_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/114">CFP_SR00401_marshall_2010</a>;<a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/115" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> CFP_SR00402_marshall_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/116">CFP_SR00403_murphy_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/117">CFP_SR00404_prout_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/118">CFP_SR00405_walsh_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/119" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00406_prout_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/120">CFP_SR00407_newman_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/121" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00408_newman_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/122" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00409_leahy_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/123" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00411_newman_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/124" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00412_newman_2010</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/125" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00413_finn_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/126" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00414_ohorgain_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/127" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00415_oconnell_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/128" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00416_sheehy_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/129" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00417_mcloughlin_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/130" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00418_gerety_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/131" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00419_kelleher_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/132" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00420_byrne_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/133" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00421_cronin_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/134" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00422_ohuigin_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/135" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00423_meacle_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/136" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00424_horgan_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/137" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00425_lyons_2012</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/138" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00427_goulding_2011</a>; <br /><br />CFP_SR00491_fitzgerald_2013. <br /><br /><strong>Heritage Week 2011:</strong> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/139" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00429_casey_201</a>1; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/140" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00430_tomas_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/141" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00431_newman_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/142" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00432_stillwell_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/143" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00433_oconnell_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/144" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00434_lane_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/145" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00435_montgomery-mcconville_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/147" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00437_corcoran_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/148">CFP_SR00438_jones_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00439_ohuigin_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/149" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00440_mccarthy_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/150" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00441_crowley_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/151" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00442_obrien_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/152" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00443_jones_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/153" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00444_mcgillicuddy_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/154" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00445_delay_2011</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/155" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00446_murphy_2011</a>; <br /><br /><strong>Video Interview:</strong> CFP_VR00486_speight_2014</div>
<div class="element-text"><br /><strong>Published Material: </strong> <br /><br />O’Carroll, Clíona (2011) ‘The Cork Memory Map’, Béascna 7: 184-188. <br /><br />O’Carroll, Clíona (2012) ‘Cork Memory Map: an update on CFP’s Online Project’, The Archive 16: 14. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/archive16.pdf">https://www.ucc.ie/en/media/research/corkfolkloreproject/archivepdfs/archive16.PDF</a> <br /><br />Dee, Stephen and O’Carroll, Clíona (2012) ‘Sound Excerpts: Interviews from Heritage Week’, The Archive 16: 15-17. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/archive16.pdf">https://www.ucc.ie/en/media/research/corkfolkloreproject/archivepdfs/archive16.PDF</a> <br /><br />O'Carrol, Clíona (2014) 'The children's perspectives: Place-centred interviewing and multiple diversified livelihood strategies in Cork city, 1935-1960'. Béaloideas - The Journal of Folklore of Ireland Society, 82: 45-65. <br /><br />The Curious Ear/Documentary on One (Cork City Memory Map) <a href="http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/2011/0816/646858-curious-ear-doconone-cork-city-memory-map/">http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/2011/0816/646858-curious-ear-doconone-cork-city-memory-map/</a></div>
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<div class="element-text"><br /><strong>To view the Cork Memory Map Click </strong><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/memory-map/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><strong>Here</strong></a><br /><br /><strong>Click <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/cmm/neatline/fullscreen/cork-memory-map#records/7">here</a> to access Michael's entry on the Memory Map</strong> <br /><br /></div>
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Ballyphehane
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Innisfallen
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The Ballyphehane Oral History Project
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Life history interviews with the inhabitants of the Cork City suburb of Ballyphehane about life in the area pre and post city corporation development.
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In June 2016 Contact was made by the<a href="https://19162016committee.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Ballyphehane 1916 Centenary Commemoration Committee</a> with the Cork Folklore Project to establish an oral history project to coincide with the events in Ballyphehane marking the centenary commemoration of the 1916 rising. The goal was to collect the memories of the residents and have a night in the community centre where these interviews would be played for the community. Ballyphehane is a suburb in the Southside of the city between Turners Cross and Togher. It was built between the 1940s and 1960s and inhabited by families rehoused from the city centre, much like Gurranabraher and Knocknaheeny in the north side. The significance of the 1916 rising to Ballyphehane is that the streets are named after the leaders of the rising. It was decided that CFP researcher and Ballyphehane resident, James Furey, would head up the project and assist volunteers in technical training and interview techniques: all interviews were carried out under the auspices of the the CFP. This interviewing project is ongoing, and there have been a number of community listening events in 2017 and 2018. Interviews have been carried out by CFP staff James Furey and David McCarthy, and by Ballyphehane resident Arnie O'Connell.
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Interviewees: Hilary Lyons; Arthur Walker Snr; John Chute; Marie McAllen (with contribution from Liam Ohúigín); Elizabeth 'Lizzie' O'Sullivan; Tom Falvey; Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley
Interviewers: James Furey; Arnie O'Connell; David McCarthy;
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Catalogue Numbers: <br /><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:
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Ethnographic interviews carried out with inhabitants of Ballyphehane detailing their lives pre and post corporation development (ca. 1930s to 2018).
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Furey, Jamie (2018) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a>
<strong>Listening Events<br /><br /><br /></strong>Library Lane Café Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> and <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a> 15th June 2017<br /><br />Tory Top Library Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a>
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James Furey
Liam O'hUigín
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Marie McAllen
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44m 21s
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Doyle Road, Turners Cross
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The following is a short extract from the interview transcript, copyright of the Cork Folklore Project. If you wish to access further archival material please contact CFP, folklorearchive@gmail.com
JF: So could you describe the workings of the fields and stuff around here?
MMC: All market gardening or orchards. They were all market gardening. The first house as you go down into Lower Friars Walk, there was Carney's, a Guard lived there. It was John Coughlan, owned the house, it was rented to Carney, a Guard. And then you went on, there was another house, John Barnett, a builder, was living in it. But it was a Michael Halloran who owned the house, it was rented as well. And then you hit the Hurley's, and the house we lived in Friars Walk was Tim Hurley's. It was rented. And Tim Hurley had a market garden behind our house in Friars Walk and he had four daughters. Three went away to be nuns and there was one got married. And then you went on again, and in Hillview you had three houses, one was the grandmother of the Hurley's, there was Horgans and there was another Hurley lived there, they had nine, there was nine in the family. I think they were them Hurley's. I can go right down to the Tramore Road and tell you who lived there.
JF: Do. No that'd be very interesting. It'd be good to
MMC: So you went all down then, and you had Scannels and there was more Market Gardening. And then you went on and then you had Hosford's, that was an orchard and they were Protestants. And then you went on there was a Cotter and there was a Coughlan living in the next house. That was the end of the houses then at the left hand side. It was all wall and they were all market gardening grounds you know? But then at the right hand side
LOH: Where the church is now Marie is it?
MMC: On the right hand side now, that was the left hand side. The right hand side then was Jim Barrett lived and Joe Barrett, two Barrett's. And there was an O'Connorr lived there and then you went on to William Halloran, our grandmother's brother. He was on the hill now facing Hillview.
LOH: Where the church is now? Just before you go down
MMC: No. They did not have the church at all. This is before the church.
LOH: Before the church was on that side?
MMC: It was down at the side of the church. And you had his daughter was married to a Paddy Foley. And he lived in a house below them and they were market gardeners as well. The whole lot was. And then you went onto the orchard, the Halloran's. So there was kind of a gate, a small gate, and there was a little small house which my aunt lived in, because Halloran's reared them. My grandmother had six daughters and one son. And it was her mother and father reared one of her daughters. And then you had the Halloran house and they had a daughter that never married, Katie, and she was living in the little house. And that's where the church is today.
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Background information, </b>House on Friars Walk, Doyle Road and eventually Ballyphehane. Father did not want to return to the house he built on Doyle Rd after Marie's Mother Died, instead choosing to be housed in new corporation house in Ballyphehane even though that meant paying rent.</p>
<p class="western"><span>Mother was from Middleton, Father born and raised on Friar’s walk. He went to the model School on Anglesea St. Like to hunt with dogs. Marie went to the South Presentation convent till she was eleven when she move to Guildford, England to her aunties for three month, returned to Ballyphehane but grandmother sick so Marie never returned to school. </span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Ballyphehane in her childhood.</b> All country, spent her days out in the Well Field by the snotty bridge. Pack jam sandwiches, going swimming in the stream and a well for drinking water.</p>
<p class="western"><span>Her child hood house on Friars road was the last house on the road. After that it was all dirt road. It would have been across form where the Marian Pharmacy is now. Across the road was tory top lane (not to be confused with Tory top road). The other street (now Reendowny Place) they called ‘the lane’ but when her friend’s boyfriend the captain of the Innisfallen came looking for her one day he called it First Avenue which subsequently stuck. When her friend married the captain they got VIP treatment on the Innisfallen. </span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span><b>The Layout of Lower Friars walk</b></span><span>. Market Gardens, all of Ballyphehane was market gardens.</span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span>First house in lower friars walk lived in By a guard by the name of Kearney, he rented from Gerry Coughlan. Next house John Barrett the builder rented from Michael Halloran. The house Marie lived in was Tim Hurley’s, he had a market garden all around the house. He had four daughters, three became Nuns. One got married. There was hill view which was three houses, one was grandmother of Hurley’s, one was Horgan’s, and the other was another Hurley which had nine of them living in it. The next family was the Scannell’s who had a market garden. Then Hosford’s a protestant family who had an orchard. Next was Cotter, the last house on left hand side was Coughlan’s. </span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span><b>On the Right hand side of Lwr Friars walk.</b></span></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><span>Jim Barrett and Joe Barrett, then you an O’Connor. The next was William Halloran Marie’s Grandmothers brother. His daughter was married to Paddy Foley and they lived in the house below, also market gardeners. Next was Halloran’s orchard where the church is now. </span></p>
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<p class="western"><b>Halloran’s orchard. </b>Small gate through to a small house, Marie’s aunt lived in. Halloran’s (Marie’s great Grandparents) reared her. Marie’s grandmother had six daughters and one son. Further in was the Halloran house, they had a daughter that never married called Katie and she was in another house. Nat the back of the orchard you had Crowley’s and they had an orchard too.</p>
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<p class="western">After the Halloran’s Orchard you had <b>Riordan who was involved in the I.R.A</b>. Marie is unsure of the exact details but remembers prisoners being released from England came looking for Riordan, Marie’s grandmother sent them to another Riordan who lived in the big house. Then sent word to the real O’Riordan to get out.</p>
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<p class="western">After his house there was a <b>lane way to Pouladuff Road.</b> Donovan lived there, they called him ‘Murder the Loaf’ and his son ‘slice pan’. Then the next family was Daly’s on Tramore road in a cottage and that was the end of Friars Walk going down. They Called Tramore road Tramore road, but was also known as Hangdog road. Marie’s Grandmothers brother lived where Healy’s cleaners is which was called low lands, In a big house. Marie was caught kissing her Husband Gerry (her then boyfriend) in the ‘Confessional boxes’ (concrete cubicles) by the priest, Who asked if they ‘had anything better to do?’</p>
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<p class="western">Halloran’s Orchard. Marie doesn’t remember her great grandparents having it, it was her uncle paddy who ran it. Massive orchard went all the way to Pouladuff rd., with many people employed to pick apples. After Marie’s grandmother got married first she work in the orchard, her husband was a plaster. Originally grandmother was meant to marry a farmer from Ballygarvan, but she was already going out with what would turn out to be her husband and had no intention of marrying famer her parents had matched her with. Great-grandfather told her that all she would get from him in that case is a pair of grey horses to pull her carriage on the wedding day and nothing else. Never got her dowry. So she was the poor one of the family. But it came to her later, one of the Halloran’s that lived by the park died without a will, he was never married, to sell his property every member had to sign, grandmother told not to sign but said ‘what my father never gave me I don’t want’ and she signed it.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The city</b> was a million miles away to them, only went in to get shoes and they mostly came from England or hand-me-downs. England had better way of getting things even though it wasn’t too much different there.</p>
<p class="western">Marie’s grandaunt was a very holy person, the <b>night Cork city burned</b> they left the animals from the mart loose, which led to a bull going own Friars walk with its chains hanging and rattle, Marie’s Grandaunt thought it was the devil coming out of hell.</p>
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<p class="western"><span style="font-size:small;"><b>0.17.09 - 0.22.40</b></span></p>
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<p style="margin-top:0.49cm;background:#ffffff;">There was loads of children on Friars walk, they all played down Friary gardens. The Davis’ had nine girls and for boys, the Duggan’s had ten. All big massive families all Marie’s age, all played together. <b>Games they played: Gobs </b>a game with stones, flick stones/pebbles in the air and catch them on back of hand, the gobs had names ska one and ska two,<b> Marbles or glassy alleys, Picky, and skipping. Recites some skipping rhymes. </b>Loads of rhymes like that. I the summer they would be in their bare feet. Marie thinks they had better childhood than today, better memories than looking at a phones and tablets. Marie thinks Those devices aren’t good for kids, but they need to use them for school. They would play with twine and make pattern from twisting, like the gate and baby’s cradle. Her uncle in Midleton was a tailor, he saved all the reels for her, she would put four tack in them and put thread around and keep flicking them over the tacks and you would have a big rope. Collecting scraps was also big. There would be murder over them, robbing them and everything.</p>
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<p class="western">Marie had two older brothers, Teddy died of cancer at forty three, and the other is still alive and is eighty, he thought out in C.I.T</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Food growing up</b>. They saw meat on Sunday, maybe a shoulder of bacon. Plenty of potatoes, vegetables and rice. They could make rice pudding some days. They would have porridge in the morning. You would have to be sick top get an egg. They would eye up the top of the fathers boiled egg and fight over it. Mother would get the bones out of the butcher on Saturday, boil them with vegetables and make a big pot of soup, which would last a few days. Back bones, her husband was never given back bones or bodice because they were country people, so when Marie married her father told her to get back bone with tail, Gerry came in from work he turned his nose up at it. He came round. Bought pigs head convinced husband to eat it, not too convinced, her father kept saying the ear is crispy. Tongue was delicious. Tripe and Drisseen, tripe cooked in milk and onions for a long time, drissenn on the other hand cooked very fast. It’s very good for your stomach. Children wouldn’t touch it.</p>
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<p class="western"><span style="font-size:small;"><b>0.25.45 - 0.27.01</b></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Marie’s Husband, was from Ballincollaig out the country side in a cottage. He moved to Blackrock and they met in the boat club at a new year’s eve dance. Liam went to school with Marie’s husband Gerry in St. Joseph’s. Gerry’s mother wouldn’t send him to Blackrock because she would see the pupils smoking over the wall by the house and see said ‘you’re not going down there, you’ll only learn to smoke down there’ so he had to go to the mardyke all the way from Blackrock. They had to be left off early for lunch so they could get home on the 12.15 bus and back in to school after lunch at 1.30(7km each way).</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Friars Walk cont.</b> Tory top lane ran at the side of the where the Marian chemist is now. The ex-servicemen’s cottages were in friary gardens. At the end where the bungalows are is where the lane turned off. Johnny Crowley had a market garden there and fed pigs. Bella Dunne her mother Kitty Paul and their donkey was so hungry that it ate the door of the shed. Where Connolly road side of the park was called the field, they played there. Barbed wire divvied it from the graveyard, little bit down was McCloughan’s cottage, then Neville’s slaughter house next to another Halloran. By the front of the graveyard there was a big red brick building with toilets and a water font. All countryside, no house after that. Barrett’s on friars walk off Derrynane Rd?</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Big house in playing field (tory top park) Catharine Mahoney called Catherine ‘snowballs’. And Noel ‘the goat’ and his wife’s mother nanny Callaghan they used to sit her out in a chair Marie thought she was ‘dotie’ thinking about it now she had dementia, they used light paper and put it in the chute to torment them (they called it thunder up the alley), he would come out in his long johns, and they used to call him the ‘devil out of hell’. There was a pump outside their house. House in the park was used as community centre. Then was ‘First Avenue’(now <span>Reendowny Place)</span> at the end of the houses you crossed a field to pouladuff, Noel Halloran lived in the first house, he was killed down in Dunlop’s, a man Meaney, Callaghan’s, Leary, Fitzgerald’s Harris’. They used to call this area the cross, friars walk with ‘first avenue’ and tory top lane being the other roads.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Mrs Harris had teeth that were always coming out, Marie’s brother told Marie that they were the father’s teeth.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Paddy the milk man , the grandmother used to make Marie get a sup for the cat off him.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">CMP dairy not on tramore road at time it was a big house. And where Vita Cortex factory is was Ballyphehane House, which was used a school while Coláiste Chríost Rí on Capwell was being built. The woman who lived by there used to wash the football teams jerseys she was call Mag ‘the Whalloper’ she moved to murphy’s lane , they called her husband ‘Hollywood’ because of his immaculate dressing. All bog down there by Mercier park. Turners cross pitch was all bog. The train line ran passed it. Also the Tramore river from the ESB pitch and putt was all open but no a lot is piped over.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The Building of Ballyphehane. </b>Marie’s brother worked on it. Big change, her house was taken to they could build houses. Brother was sent to Skerry’s college (civil service training) but after 2 months it was discovered that her brother was just hanging out in Fitzgerald’s park and not attending college. So he was marched to Leaders for a bib and brace sent to Ballyphehane and learnt his trade on the house facing the graveyard.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Marie was thirteen when the development started, she loved it, it modernised her life and luxuries such as Lennox’s Chipper and everything else, very positive.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">On the cross they would have a huge Bonfire every year and put new potatoes in the corner of fire and all eat spuds. No traffic, only horse and carts, they used to ‘lang on’ (hang on) the back of the ‘floats’ (flatbed carts) that brought the men back from the docks.</p>
<p class="western">She wouldn’t say she made friends with the new people moving in, but she was at the age where she was chasing fellas so she welcomed the new arrivals.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Haunted house or scary stories. . Scanlon’s house where one of them hung himself, another then was put in to the mental home on the Lee road. They had that kind of tendency in the family.</p>
<p class="western">Marie used to go to graveyard where Fr Matthew’s grave was a you could see a coffin in a sarcophagus that made them run away.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Say’s she had a fabulous upbringing in her youth, freedom, not like now. On her school holidays they used leave the house go to the well field with their togs, no towel and stay out till five in the evening, no worries. Couldn’t do that today.</p>
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<p class="western">That house Marie lives in now on Doyle rd was built entirely by her father 80 years ago. All the tradesmen help each out. Marie’s daughter lives on Derrynane rd and was brought in to the neighbour’s house to be shown signatures of the tradesmen that worked on the house and Marie’s fathers was there.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Revised the Black and Tans story, all names of people living in house was written behind door and they’d check if it matched.</p>
<p class="western"><b>INTERVIEW ENDS</b></p>
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Marie McAllen: Ballyphehane
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Life History: Ballyphehane; Market Gardens; Childhood
Description
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Marie was born and raised in Ballyphehane, before and after development of corporation housing. Her Mother’s family name was Cronin and her grandmother was Halloran who owned Halloran’s orchard where the Ballyphehane Church now stands.
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26th April 2017
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Interviewee: Marie McAllen
Interviewers: James Furey and Liam O’hUigín
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CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017
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Cork; Ballyphehane; 1930s-2000s
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<div class="element-text"><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:</div>
<div class="element-text"><br />Furey, Jamie (2012) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a></div>
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Ballincollig
Ballyphehane
Ballyphehane House
Black and Tans
Blackrock
Bodice
Burning of Cork
Capwell
Childhood Games
Coláiste Chríost Rí
Connolly Road
Doyle Road
Dunlop
Food
Fr Theobald Matthew
Friars Walk
Games
Glassey Alleys
Gobs
Halloran’s Orchard
Hangdog Road
Haunted house
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Innisfallen
Leaders Clothing Shop
Liam ÓhUigín
Marbles
Market Gardens
McAllen
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Pouladuff Road
Reendowny Place
Rhymes
Ska
Skipping
St Joseph's Cemetery
St. Joseph’s Cemetery
Tory Top Lane
Tramore Road
Tripe and Drisheen
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The Ballyphehane Oral History Project
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Life history interviews with the inhabitants of the Cork City suburb of Ballyphehane about life in the area pre and post city corporation development.
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In June 2016 Contact was made by the<a href="https://19162016committee.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Ballyphehane 1916 Centenary Commemoration Committee</a> with the Cork Folklore Project to establish an oral history project to coincide with the events in Ballyphehane marking the centenary commemoration of the 1916 rising. The goal was to collect the memories of the residents and have a night in the community centre where these interviews would be played for the community. Ballyphehane is a suburb in the Southside of the city between Turners Cross and Togher. It was built between the 1940s and 1960s and inhabited by families rehoused from the city centre, much like Gurranabraher and Knocknaheeny in the north side. The significance of the 1916 rising to Ballyphehane is that the streets are named after the leaders of the rising. It was decided that CFP researcher and Ballyphehane resident, James Furey, would head up the project and assist volunteers in technical training and interview techniques: all interviews were carried out under the auspices of the the CFP. This interviewing project is ongoing, and there have been a number of community listening events in 2017 and 2018. Interviews have been carried out by CFP staff James Furey and David McCarthy, and by Ballyphehane resident Arnie O'Connell.
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2016 and ongoing
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Interviewees: Hilary Lyons; Arthur Walker Snr; John Chute; Marie McAllen (with contribution from Liam Ohúigín); Elizabeth 'Lizzie' O'Sullivan; Tom Falvey; Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley
Interviewers: James Furey; Arnie O'Connell; David McCarthy;
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Catalogue Numbers: <br /><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:
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Ethnographic interviews carried out with inhabitants of Ballyphehane detailing their lives pre and post corporation development (ca. 1930s to 2018).
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project
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Furey, Jamie (2018) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a>
<strong>Listening Events<br /><br /><br /></strong>Library Lane Café Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> and <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a> 15th June 2017<br /><br />Tory Top Library Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a>
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James Furey
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Elizabeth O'Sullivan
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1 HR 23 Mins 11 Sec
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Ballyphehane
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Audio
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The following is a short extract from the interview transcript, copyright of the Cork Folklore Project. If you wish to access further archival material please contact CFP, folklorearchive@gmail.com
JF: Obviously you'd been out to Ballyphehane to visit Jimmy's family and that. But had you been out to Ballyphehane when you were a child?
EOS: No. There wouldn't be much of Ballyphehane built at that time now. The little houses below, in O’Growney Crescent, they were there. Now, I don't know whether they were all there or not. But there was some of them there. Parts of Pearse Road was there. There was a part of Connolly Road, because do you know up by the cross now when you go up before you come to the park? That was only all earth from that down. And I remember when I thought I was glamorous then you see. You'd have the high heels and you'd have the bit of glamour as you'd think you would. And I was saying I'm not walking down there. I'd destroy my shoes. And he gave me a backer up on his back. This is true now. He could be listening to me. The Lord have mercy on him. And he gave me a backer down before I destroyed my shoes. It was terrible.
JF: Was this up in Friar's Walk was it?
EOS: Up there now by the park there. So that wasn't finished.
JF: So was there still orchards and market gardens and stuff around?
EOS: I don't remember them now but there is, there was a family up there now, they're gone, the Varians. They were only up a couple of doors there. And they came from the market gardens. They were telling me one day. There's a very nice chap. They were living in the market gardens and they just moved. And then they were building just after that. They were building up by Sonny Fords, the shop. I can remember now there was a woman across the road and she died. And they asked me to go up and call Georgie. He was working on the flats for the Corporation.
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<p class="western"><b>House of Birth. </b>She was born in 88 Wolfe Tone Street, maiden name Cambridge. Her father was Denis and her mother was Margaret O’Connor. She speaks of her family being twelve in total, six boys and six girls. She talks about growing up in Wolfe Tone Street. She lived in a tenement of about five or six floors with the ground floor occupied by the ‘caretaker’, a couple. Each floor cleaned their own and she remarks that she had a very good life even in the tenement.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Schooling. </b>She went to St. Vincent’s Convent School, and remained there until second class. She recounts an event in school when a lay teacher made a public display of her for failing to answer a question in class and that sense of humiliation experienced never left her memory. After that event she switched to North Presentation school, she was around 8 years old at the time, and finished her schooling there. She left the North Pres before she was fourteen and went to work.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>First Job in Shoe Factory. </b>She talks of her one and only job<span> in Cork</span> she had that of a Shoe Factory on Hanover Street where the present Labour Exchange is situated, owned by Dwyers. She found working there to be ‘okay’. She makes a general observation that in her life she never met ‘horrible people’, yet brings up that incident with the teacher again. She stayed in Dwyer’s until she was twenty one or two until after meeting her husband when they decided to go to England. Her mother was angry at her for giving up a ‘good job’ with pay at three pounds seven and six pence a week. She found the Dwyer’s to be good people to work for. They also had Lee Boot on Washington Street where Square Deal is now. There was no doctor on site as at the Sunbeam but there was a doctor on the South Mall that you could visit. She remembers the doctors rooms opposite the Victoria Hotel.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Time in England and marriage.</b> She speaks of her time in England. She got married there. She worked in factory jobs, one of which did remote controls on the floor where she worked. She went to Birmingham first and then up to London. She got married in 1952. Never experienced anti-Irish prejudice while there. Her husband’s name was James but they called him ‘Jimmy’. He was a crane driver when she was over there with him. He was working in the railway as a fireman when he went to England first, before Elizabeth met him. She met him in Cork after he returned briefly. Only stayed in England for a few years and decided to come back after Elizabeth became pregnant. They almost went to Australia after a scheme came out trying to entice people to live there. The scheme assisted you in the fare out there, ten pounds. They had all the forms signed to go out after getting each round of papers signed by a priest or a Guard, which cost one shilling. Just at the final stage of going when she became pregnant and she had morning sickness and that ended that endeavour.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Return to Cork and finding her home.</b> She talks of returning to Cork to live with Jimmy’s parents at 53 Kent Road, Ballyphehane. She says then that she lived first with Jimmy’s grandmother in an old run down cottage house in a laneway off where the Bridewell Garda Station is. There was about eight houses there but she felt a bit frightened there by its darkness and isolation. They were condemned and people living there expected to get Corporation Houses soon. But Jimmy’s parents knew a man on Pearce Road who had a good job in the Corporation and he put a good word for them and they got the house at 60 Kent Road after it became vacant.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Ballyphehane before and during development.</b> She talks of Ballyphehane before it was built up fully. She wouldn’t have visited Ballyphehane when she was younger. Only the little houses in O’Growney Crescent were there, maybe not all of them, when she was growing up. Part of Pearce Road and part of Connolly Road was also there. The place along Connolly Road at the crossroads by the Park was all earth the way down. She doesn’t remember any market gardens around here but recalls a family a few doors up, the Varians, who came from the market gardens. She remembers construction up by Sonny Fords, the shop, and she was asked to call Georgie who was working on the flats for the Corporation after a woman across the way had died.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Ballyphehane Church and Credit Union.</b> They were there before the Church. They started the Church when Elizabeth came to Ballyphehane. She remembers a man who used to visit each house with his book collecting subscriptions for the Church, a shilling a week. The man who did the collection was a mason, the Hurley’s and he went to America afterwards and is still there. She talks of the Credit Union but you had to pay half a crown to join and you would get a little pink book. At that time it was over at the sacristy at the Church and you joined over there because they were building the new Credit Union. You had to have thirty euros [pounds? Shillings?] saved before you could borrow ten. Great service – and she remembers that it was a priest who first set it up after he went to America and brought the idea back here. He organised meetings for the local people in relation to the idea. She thinks O’Flynn was his name…died in the plane. It was all run by volunteers. She remembers David McAuiliffe, known locally as ‘Uncle Dave’ in relation to it. Elizabeth worked with him.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Buying household goods and groceries.</b> She talks of her husband getting seven or eight pounds as wages for the week when she got married first. You would buy something with the two week holiday money he would receive. She bought her first fridge out in Togher for thirty five pounds. That would mean there would be no holiday but instead you have a washing machine and fridge. She talks about shopping for groceries and the Spar coming. First was the ‘Bally’, the ‘Ballyphehane Stores’ down the road where the AIB is now. When you got a bit more money you go to the supermarket, to Dunnes Stores. She talks of Luke Burke’s having a shop in Patrick Street and when he closed down Ben Dunne bought that. She recalls seeing a man in a café in town with her daughter Mary (who worked in Dunnes Stores) who ran the original Dunnes Stores back then and who featured in a documentary recently. Jackie talks about what shopping was like in there and mentions the people working in there some of whom were local and mentions a Mona O’Donovan.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0.49cm;background:#ffffff;"><b>Living in Gurranabraher with her family.</b> Elizabeth speaks briefly on living in Gurranabraher and then recounts playing with her brother Paddy and him falling after she used to pretend he was a horse and she the driver on their way down to her grandparents who lived in the laneway off Wolfe Tone Street. She talks about her grandparents and their house which was a two roomed house which formed most of it and how they used to pawn items when they were on ‘the binge’ and how her mother would try to avoid them in street by going different route to town when they were in that state. There was eight [children?] in her grandmother’s house. Her mother married young. Two girls died of TB as it was rampant at the time. Her mother’s maiden name was Margaret Babbington. She doesn’t know much about the Babbingtons. She couldn’t remember her grandfather working.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Her father and WW1.</b> James, Elizabeth’s grandson, mentions that her father (his <span>great-</span>grandfather) fought in World War One and Elizabeth urges him to speak on it as he knows more than her. James then recounts a story that he was told that the grandfather was fighting with the British Army and during this particular military engagement the healthiest and fittest were out in front and those that were injured were left behind and the priest, or ‘padre’ as they were called asked for volunteers to remain behind with the wounded which would have put their lives in danger. His <span>great-</span>grandfather volunteered and helped the priest by getting stretchers up to the wounded. His bravery was rewarded by a special medal and they have a very good photo of him in uniform. Elizabeth then remembers when she was younger and the medals being in the chest of drawers upstairs in the main bedroom, one of three. She remembers the medals being in there but she doesn’t know where they went subsequently. Her sister’s grandson did the research on the subject and unearthed the story of the bravery medal and James himself is involved in Camden Fort and the World War One room there and hope to do something on Denis Cambridge there for that. He then says that his grandfather became very good friends with the war chaplain, who was Archdeacon Duggan. Elizabeth then speaks about him and the easy way of him as he visited them in their house in Gurranabraher. She also relates a story of how she met him once and he said to her that her father was such a good man he went straight to heaven and brave as well. Elizabeth adds that her father was a very, very quite man, nice man. He never seemed to be affected by the war and he never talked about it. He died young of cancer at the age of fifty-six. Her grand-nephew and grandson have replica medals. She doesn’t remember any negative reaction to him being in the British Army after he came back. He worked as a labourer in timber yard.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>TB and Cork.</b> Elizabeth talks about TB not affecting her family as they had cleared it in Cork but it did kill her two aunts on her mother side. They were young women. She relates that she know a number of people, male and female, who worked in the shoe factory in Hanover Street that died of TB. They used to say it was due to the river by the factory. They were young people. They used to go down to Sarsfield Court and Mount Desert. She believes most people died from it because they had no drugs. Discussion about conditions for TB and Elizabeth recounts her tenement house on Wolfe Tone Street having only one toilet with children on every floor but it was kept spotless due to the caretaker couple who made sure everyone cleaned their own part. Jimmy’s parents used to live in a tenement on Peter Street where they had only one toilet as well but no running water. You would have to go out on the street to a water pump and fill your container and bring it back up to the top floor where they lived.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Arrival of Electricity and the near death of her brothers.</b> She talks about the change-over to new energy sources from gas to electricity. There was only gas in the house in Gurranabraher but then they put in electricity and light would come on with a switch. She recalls how her two brothers were nearly killed by a leakage from the gas piping after they removed the gas fittings in the house as they slept in their bedroom. They were saved by their aunt who lived with them as well as she heard them groaning. She couldn’t get help as they taught it was a hoax when she rang for help as that night was a bad night weather wise and a lot of hoaxes were being rang in. Her aunt ran in her bare feet to the Garda Station at the end of Rock Steps on the North Mall just beyond O’Connor’s funeral home to get help. They both survived.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Arrival in new home.</b> She talks about moving into her new house in Kent Road. She was delighted to have her own house, her own front door and key. She had one child, Stephen, when she moved in. Denis was born in the house. She had six children in total and then mentions that she had seven as one child died. She then talks about the family company she has in the house and how she liked that after her husband died. She loves her house.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Family outings around Ballyphehane.</b> She says that she doesn’t miss anything from the old times in Ballyphehane but then recounts how she used to take the children out the Tramore Road, out to Celia’s pub was and there was a stream there and you think you were in Youghal by the stream. Her husband would go in for a pint and if he had the money he would get a bottle of lemonade for the children. The children would paddle in the stream and it was very pleasant. Jackie then adds that she remembers walking down Tramore Road on a Sunday with her father in front on them carrying a stick going onto Hangdog Road, where Kelleher’s Electrical is and there was a farm there. They would stop by the gate to look at the chickens and hens but as you were walking down the road the rats would run across. That is why her father had the stick. Elizabeth says that where Musgraves is now was also a farm. It was country. Jackie talks about going for a walk up Airport Hill into the Airport bar. Also going over St. Finbarr’s Club house. Her aunt and her family socialised with them a lot as her husband died young. Elizabeth loved the walk going down to Blackrock. There was no bus or car and they would walk down the marina. Her husband never had a car so the family used to walk everywhere. She couldn’t afford the bus for all the children and the buses weren’t plentiful.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>The Bandon Train.</b> She recalls the train that you could see on top of the hill running along. She believes it only went once a day. She remembers being asked to meet her brother’s girlfriend from Dunmanway who arrived by train at the station for Bandon. Discussion arises over where was the Bandon line ran through close to the home.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Activities and social events like Bonfire Night.</b> Jackie recalls the boys used to go out to Lane’s Wood, at the back of Vermont. Jackie then mentions bonfire night and they having it at the green close to the home and a lady who used to set up a table for refreshments for the children for free. Elizabeth recalls a man who played the melodeon. He was called Mr Mac, for McCarthy. He would play when the Tory Top was closed or the ‘Little Man’s’ and there would a great sing song with a sofa still there and that would be the last into the fire. There would be dancing as well. The Little Man was the Horseshoe Inn. Very little entertainment around here. Bonfire night was a big night and John Millis used to collect a pennies from children and he would get the diluted orange and he would give them a few sweets.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Her Social life and Dancing.</b> She didn’t socialise much. She didn’t drink or smoke. She loved to dance though. She went to the Arcadia and City Hall before she got married. She thought the Arcadia brilliant. She went to any big dance that came which could cost as much as five shillings. It would be on from nine to two every Saturday night for a half a crown but if a big band came it would be five shillings. She met her husband Jimmy in the City Hall at a dance. She relates how the ‘boys’ would be on one side and the ‘girls’ would be on the other and the male would come across to ask for a dance. She didn’t have much preparation for the dances – the clothes weren’t as glamourous as today or as much make-up. She said she wasn’t into make-up generally. Her husband however liked to look good – always careful to mind his clothes.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Sense of community and helping in Ballyphehane.</b> She experienced a great sense of community in Ballyphehane. She is over sixty years here and hasn’t a bad word for the place. Her son Denis was born upstairs, the first after she moved to Kent Road. He was helped in delivery by Mrs. Willis next door. She was a great neighbour as you could call her. Her husband loved sweet things and she remembers when he was sick he had a ‘catch’ of sweets down the wardrobe and his bottle as well. She thinks that he used to get up to get a sweet but there would be a little bit of alcohol with it. She was the opposite and always hated alcohol. If she needed help when he was ill she would rap on the wall and the neighbour would call in, but mostly Linda who developed a good relationship with him during his ill times. Recounts a story about Linda getting hit accidently.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Ballyphehane as child friendly and welcoming.</b> It was a great place to bring up children. She experienced no problem. Jackie speaks about how everybody hadn’t much so there wasn’t much competition and they all played together. Elizabeth then relates how a new neighbour moved in close by and her advice to her about renovating her house with the start point being the bedroom and then the kitchen and you have the rest of your life to do the rest. Nowadays, she thinks, young ones want it done straight away. Both Elizabeth and Jackie talk about how over the years new families have moved in and integrated very well. Jackie remembers how they used to play soccer using a neighbours gate and their own gate as goalposts. Never any trouble with the neighbours. Elizabeth speaks about a new neighbour who is ‘dark skinned’ and says she doesn’t bother anyone but doesn’t get involved either. They are very quite.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Musgrave Park and its impact on their life.</b> Elizabeth talks about the rugby pitch which is next to her house and remembers the local opposition to the flood lights and people coming to her door to sign a petition against them, fearing they would be doing concerts. There was also a collection for to employ a solicitor but when the lights were installed, she states, they interfered with nobody. Jackie urges Lizzie to talk about the time the All Blacks came and the place being full of camper vans but Lizzie talks about another time a visiting couple asked her could they leave their bags there with her for them to go for a walk and they went for a walk around the lough. She fed them when they came back. They intended to ‘thump’ back to Limerick after the match. Lizzie wouldn’t allow them to do that as it would be dark after the match and she persuaded to stay the night and go in the morning. Jackie again goes back to the All Black match and the visitors had camper vans and all the gear for making their own food but still the front door was left open and they used to come in to use the bathroom. The only problem she mentions would be traffic sometimes but the Guards are very good. James talks about the concerts there and one in particular, El Divo, and how Uncle Arthur expected to arrive in the house and be able to hear the concert but that turned out to be not the case. General talk amongst those present of how nice it is to live in Ballyphehane. Jamie Fury then reads the legal document regarding the recording of Elizabeth ‘Lizzie’ O’Sullivan.</p>
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Elizabeth ‘Lizzie’ O’Sullivan: Ballyphehane
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Life History: Ballyphehane, Childhood, Emigration
Description
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Lizzie hails from Wolfe Tone Street on the Northside of the city. After spending a few years in England as a young adult she returned to Cork and was an early resident of the Corporation development in Ballyphehane. Lizzie has lived in Ballyphehane ever since.
Elizabeth talks about her places of growing up, Wolfe Tone St, Gurranabraher. Her schooling and first job. Emigration to England and marriage. Returning to Cork and establishing herself in Ballyphehane where she raised her family. Her father’s experience of the First World War. Her grandparents. The Development of Ballyphehane. Ballyphehane Church and Credit Union. Consumer history. TB in Cork. Arrival of Electricity. Family outings around Ballyphehane. Bonfire night. Sense of Community in Ballyphehane. The Bandon Train. Pre-marriage social life and dances. Musgrave Park.
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30 November 2017
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Interviewee: Elizabeth O'Sullivan
Interviewer: James Furey
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CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017
Coverage
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Cork; Ireland; Ballyphehane; England; 1920s-2000s
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<div class="element-text"><br />Furey, Jamie (2012) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a></div>
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.wav
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Arcadia
Ballyphehane
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Bandon Train
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Camden Fort
Cork City Hall
Credit Union
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The Ballyphehane Oral History Project
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Life history interviews with the inhabitants of the Cork City suburb of Ballyphehane about life in the area pre and post city corporation development.
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In June 2016 Contact was made by the<a href="https://19162016committee.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Ballyphehane 1916 Centenary Commemoration Committee</a> with the Cork Folklore Project to establish an oral history project to coincide with the events in Ballyphehane marking the centenary commemoration of the 1916 rising. The goal was to collect the memories of the residents and have a night in the community centre where these interviews would be played for the community. Ballyphehane is a suburb in the Southside of the city between Turners Cross and Togher. It was built between the 1940s and 1960s and inhabited by families rehoused from the city centre, much like Gurranabraher and Knocknaheeny in the north side. The significance of the 1916 rising to Ballyphehane is that the streets are named after the leaders of the rising. It was decided that CFP researcher and Ballyphehane resident, James Furey, would head up the project and assist volunteers in technical training and interview techniques: all interviews were carried out under the auspices of the the CFP. This interviewing project is ongoing, and there have been a number of community listening events in 2017 and 2018. Interviews have been carried out by CFP staff James Furey and David McCarthy, and by Ballyphehane resident Arnie O'Connell.
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Interviewees: Hilary Lyons; Arthur Walker Snr; John Chute; Marie McAllen (with contribution from Liam Ohúigín); Elizabeth 'Lizzie' O'Sullivan; Tom Falvey; Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley
Interviewers: James Furey; Arnie O'Connell; David McCarthy;
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Catalogue Numbers: <br /><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:
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Ethnographic interviews carried out with inhabitants of Ballyphehane detailing their lives pre and post corporation development (ca. 1930s to 2018).
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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English
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Audio
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7.wav Files
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Furey, Jamie (2018) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a>
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James Furey
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Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley
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57m 12s
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North Cathedral Visitors Centre
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.wav
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Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley: Ballyphehane, Childhood, Community
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Life History: Ballyphehane, Childhood, Family, Rent Strikes, Community,
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Kieran Edwards and his sister Noreen Crowley (nee Edwards) are originally from Fr Dominic Road Ballyphahane, they start the interview by discussing the community that Ballypheheane nurtured. Noreen then talks of her youth and how she used to look after he siblings, she details the old places they used to frequent as children, the ‘Wella’, the ‘Furry Glen’, Lanes wood, and the Lough.
Kieran then speaks of his mothers daily routine and her baking every morning. Kieran also mentions the humility of the community and how Ballyphehane got together with other working class people from other corporation/council development around the country in the rent strikes of the 1970s.
They then mention the people of the community that will be forgotten for their work in the fledgeling suburb.
They then speak of the changes in the community, the coming of business to the area and Ballyphehanes place in the city of Cork.
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4 September 2018
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Interviewee: Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley
Interviewer: JamesFurey
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CFP_SR00672_edwards-crowley_2018
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Cork; Ireland; Ballyphehane; Fr Dominic Road; 1950s-2000s
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<div class="element-text"><br />Furey, Jamie (2012) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a></div>
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Cork Folklore Project
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English
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Cork Folklore Project
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Sound
1950s
1960s
1970s
1980s
1990s
2000s
Ballyphehane
Ballyphehane Oral History Project
Ceela's Pub
Childhood
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Fr Dominic Rd
Joe Murphy Hungerstiker
War of Independence
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The Ballyphehane Oral History Project
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Life history interviews with the inhabitants of the Cork City suburb of Ballyphehane about life in the area pre and post city corporation development.
Description
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In June 2016 Contact was made by the<a href="https://19162016committee.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Ballyphehane 1916 Centenary Commemoration Committee</a> with the Cork Folklore Project to establish an oral history project to coincide with the events in Ballyphehane marking the centenary commemoration of the 1916 rising. The goal was to collect the memories of the residents and have a night in the community centre where these interviews would be played for the community. Ballyphehane is a suburb in the Southside of the city between Turners Cross and Togher. It was built between the 1940s and 1960s and inhabited by families rehoused from the city centre, much like Gurranabraher and Knocknaheeny in the north side. The significance of the 1916 rising to Ballyphehane is that the streets are named after the leaders of the rising. It was decided that CFP researcher and Ballyphehane resident, James Furey, would head up the project and assist volunteers in technical training and interview techniques: all interviews were carried out under the auspices of the the CFP. This interviewing project is ongoing, and there have been a number of community listening events in 2017 and 2018. Interviews have been carried out by CFP staff James Furey and David McCarthy, and by Ballyphehane resident Arnie O'Connell.
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Interviewees: Hilary Lyons; Arthur Walker Snr; John Chute; Marie McAllen (with contribution from Liam Ohúigín); Elizabeth 'Lizzie' O'Sullivan; Tom Falvey; Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley
Interviewers: James Furey; Arnie O'Connell; David McCarthy;
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Catalogue Numbers: <br /><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:
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Ethnographic interviews carried out with inhabitants of Ballyphehane detailing their lives pre and post corporation development (ca. 1930s to 2018).
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project
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English
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7.wav Files
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Furey, Jamie (2018) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a>
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James Furey
Arnie O’Connell
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John Chute
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69m10s
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Ballyphehane, Cork
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.wav
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24bit / 48kHz
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Audio
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The following is a short extract from the interview transcript, copyright of the Cork Folklore Project. If you wish to access further archival material please contact CFP, folklorearchive@gmail.com
JC: I got a job in Hickeys. I'd come around on a bike and see what was what. I didn't know where we were going. I'll tell you one thing, it was something else. It was a thrill to see it. The development where the houses were being built and all that. I was supplying the tiles. All them tiles of the fellas made over. Kent Road now, part of Kent Road was done. That's where you're going now isn't it?
JF: No. Clark Road.
JC: Clark Road. Same thing anyway. They weren't there at all. They only came later. I'm only going as far as I can think.
JF: You're grand
JC: The hill there now was built up as far as the cross only. We were continuing on down that and we were stopped by the green there. I was witness to this myself now in the 'Gurran' (Gurranabraher). From living in the Northside and going to school in the Northside. I was more interested then in this side of where we were going to live. We came out and we had a horse and car bringing out our furniture. They came along after and they had three boxcars. We used to have right craic over that. Three boxcars. That was the way life was like at that time. I'll tell you one thing. Do you know something about it? It was a great way to be. All the people were very down to earth.
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<p class="western">Pre-interview. John explains Irish the translation of his surname, and where it came from. And speaks of the recently elected American president Trump being a mutt.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Early life</b>, on the northside in Knapps square, went Easons hill school. Father died young, mother raised 5 children. Moved to the middle parish ‘the marsh’. Hardtimes for her. He was the eldest boy 3 older sisters but he was the man of the house. He was in the Fianna boy scouts. Grew up around witty strong people. Happy looking back on life.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Schooling and Getting involved in music.</b></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Went to eason hill because his father and uncles went there. Had a teacher called Kate O’Conner beautiful soprano. She trained him to sing, his first step into music. Mother also very musical, concertina and harmonica, all Irish songs. Living on Sheares street, many good musicians there. In his building alone, 3 men went on to lead bands, 1 with the Barrack Street band, another with the army band and John himself. The 3 didn’t get on that well. Ex-service men from the 1st world war had a band in the ‘marsh’, amputees and other disabilities. A man called Hurley, thought in the workmen’s brass and reed band, and he saw the potential in john’s ability.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Music teacher in the Fianna, but the teacher was no good. His friend Christy Gough suggested to join the Cork City pipe band down in Fr Mattew hall. Christy’s father was a piper. Tadgh Crowley was the teacher, again john was singled out for his ability to learn quickly.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Himself and Christy start fianna band</b>, asked the chairman of Sinn Fein (Jerry Cronin) for the instruments from the old fianna band down in Tomas Ashe hall, Volunteer Band not too happy, but they got the ok from the chair of Sinn Fein.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Went for about 12 months with both bands.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Recorded an album with the Cork City Pipe band</b> in the old Goal. Very happy with that, Tadgh said that all that matters. Heard the recording in a chip shop (Julio’s) on north main street. When he went up North for competitions all the bands talked of that recording. Alfie(Kennedy) Christy, Tony Donovan, Jerry Hurley, Billy Halesy, Eddie Williams played in that band too. Of all the bands he played in it had the best players. Its sad, after that band ceased to be after Tadgh’s death, all the good player went to Carriagaline.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Became pipe major</b> of Band against his wishes, all the best player gone to Scotland.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>1962: </b>with some players from the carraigaline band and the blarney street band john won the All-Ireland grade 2</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">John walked out of the Carraigaline band because of the way they treated the city boys. So he reformed cork city band, with member from blarney street band.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Talks of his love of traditional music, especially from the north.</p>
<p class="western">Speaks of his <b>children’s musical abilities</b>, one packed it in because of johns hard line of teaching. His son Paul won world and European championship in bass drums. Regrets being so hard on children, but loves then and their talent. They used to playing banjo and guitar a 2 in the morning, the wife would want them to stop but john would tell her ‘never stop a musician’.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Talks of his wife Tilly.</b> Vital cog in his life. She was the reason for his competing. It upsets him, shes in hospital for a long time (stroke), he visits every day. Super traditional woman. She used to look after all the bills (for his students) John would try and fiddle the books to get a few extra bob.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>His Son Isaac is a renowned tenor</b>, lives in America, sings all over the country. Studied under Carlo Bergonzi in Rome.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Isaac home recently and remembers everything.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">At a festival in Cobh in the 1970s, Isaac goes missing ‘I couldn’t even enjoy my drink’, find him at a sing song in the bar with Jack Lynch. He idolised Jack Lynch. One time in Musgrave park when the All-Ireland pipe championship was on, Isaac sleeping on his shoulders.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Isaac and jack Lynch sent letter to each other. Jack was a Hurling Idol of johns, they lived near each other when younger. A lot in common.</p>
<p class="western">Carlo Bergonzi wrote asking if they could pay for Isaacs digs, 25000 a month. Can’t afford it, Go to the credit union.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Northside man. 22 years he spent up there. <b>Teaching</b> the blarney street band, taught many a band from cork to rathcoole. Very proud of teaching the all-girls band in Fermoy, won championships, every Christmas they all still send card to him.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Set up the Ballyphehane pipe band 1980, but didn’t like the regiment of it. Won some championships, but fell out with them didn’t like the behaviour.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">They had the ability but they didn’t have the drive. About 6 of them were brilliant. Disappointed that there are some people in Ballyphehane that could teach the band but don’t.</p>
<p class="western">Thought in Cobh for a year or 2, really good students but had to give it up because his son, who drove him, moved to Kerry.</p>
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<p class="western"><span style="font-size:small;"><b>0.27.40 - 0.35.15</b></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0.49cm;background:#ffffff;">If he had to live again, no piper would touch him. ‘I would do it for myself’. Spent his time teaching, was could at it, but disappointed that those he thought didn’t carry on the mantle. Christy said of Tadgh to John, ‘he’s a dud teaching you’ John said ‘he is the man that enlightened me’.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0.49cm;margin-bottom:0.49cm;background:#ffffff;">Christy gave him the evaluation of the scale, has it upstairs still, it’s like a jewel to him. Best thing that did for him.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0.49cm;margin-bottom:0.49cm;background:#ffffff;">Billy Hallesy, great piper, no patience to teach, fell out with him because he pointed out when billy played bad, didn’t speak for 4 years.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0.49cm;margin-bottom:0.49cm;background:#ffffff;">Natural ability teach given from God. Brought a friend to help him teach, he couldn’t handle the students, no patience. Tim Keogh in Dublin played a selection, asked for his thoughts, and John told that he could have been better. They ended up being great friends. He wrote 4 tunes in honour of John, John told him they were no good.</p>
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<p class="western"><span style="font-size:small;"><b>035.15 - 0.37.47</b></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Talks of his day.</b> Visiting his wife. Going for a few pints. Only dinks half pints, used to drink gallons. Talks of a man who gave him a spin home and the connections to the ‘hall’ (Tomas Ashe)</p>
<p class="western">He thought this man’s sisters the pipes. Told him to tell his children to study instead of music, no money in it.</p>
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<p class="western"><span style="font-size:small;"><b>0.37.47 - 0.42.41</b></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Ballyphehane</b></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Got the keys at Christmas 1949, one of the first to move in. all his side of the road was from the ‘marsh’. The other side came from abbey street in the south parish. Like the fact that his neighbours moved with him.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Happy with move, only problem is that he was the only one who could paint the house. Had to work in the Hickeys cement factory on kinsale road. Had to sweep the place, suffocated with dust, then home to paint. All the stemper paint dripped of the walls. The mother said ‘john that’s the wall’. The cheapest paint. His friend bobby gave him more paint to finish it.</p>
<p class="western">That time people of Ballyphehane were very happy people.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Coming from the ‘marsh’</b> those people are the foundation of the city, they went north and south, very strong people. Night time in the ‘marsh’ 20 or 30 people would sit on the curb and sing in perfect harmony.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">One time a guard came and tried to clear them off the foot path, they battered the guard. Guard came again the next night and they battered him with spuds. Innocence.</p>
<p class="western">Lived in 5 sheares st, 6 excellent singer in the building, the balance of their voice was unreal.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Raising children in early Ballyphehane.</b></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Great neighbours, all got on. Denis Sullivan on the corner, he sold the land to the corporation, great wit in the street. Great talent. Everybody made the best of life. They would go out of there way for you. They’d go to town on you too.</p>
<p class="western">2 years ago, he broke his collar bone. Went to sleep on the couch, fell off, couldn’t move with the pain. All the emergency services came and were going to break door, he told them ‘if you break the door you’ll have to deal with me.’ His friend went through top window, paramedics came in, and he wanted to go back to the pub after his big injection. You have to have a sense of humour. Talks of a noisy neighbour.</p>
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<p class="western"><span style="font-size:small;"><b>0.52.40 - 0.58.30</b></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>First time in Ballyphehane</b> was when he got job in hickeys. Thought it’s beautiful. He made all the roof tiles for the development. Some of Connolly road, Kent road not much else built. Had seen it happen up in Gurranabruhar.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Moved their possessions on a horse and car. Neighbours had 3 box cars. That’s the way life was, it was great.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Story of seeing the guards in a ford, take a horse from a house, then some wheels, then the cart, the neighbours had stolen it from the ‘knackers’. The guard asked him if he’s from here, john give a cheeky answer.</p>
<p class="western">Everybody round here looked out for each other, the same for the north side, all from the marsh and the south parish.</p>
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<p class="western"><span style="font-size:small;"><b>0.58.30 - 1.05.00</b></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Sport in Ballyphehane</b>. Started the fr Mathews hurling team. Then the soccer team. A lot of them from this terrace, very talented. He would blackguard them being older.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">One of then Larry died in the car by the cross. He had the iho cup for seven years, nobody knew where it was.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Battle of Ballyphehane. </b>Terrible grievances, the mulls, v the o’driscolls and the others from ballyphehane gaa. Sad time that should never had happened. Ballyphehane was offered the 3 fields (stephon naofa) but refused it. Biggest mistake ever. They were also offered land by the square, noel murphy (publican) stopped it thought it would ruin business.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Ended up down the green ‘call it don’t fence me in’</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Big fights over it.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">The barrs killed ballyphehane Gaa, took all the best players.</p>
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<p class="western"><span style="font-size:small;"><b>1.05.00 - 1.09.10</b></span></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Finishes up by taking about his trophies, piping and pigeons, murder to clean. Tries to get people to clean them</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Misses the family, only for his tapes and his movies, one of the northsiders on the late late show.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Interview Ends</b></p>
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John Chute: Ballyphehane
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Life History: Knapps Square, Middle Parish, Ballyphehane, Childhood, Music
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John talks about his early life, growing up on the northside in Knapps square, attending school in Easons Hill and being involved in pipe bands.
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11th November 2016
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Interviewer: James Furey; Arnie O’Connell
Interviewee: John Chute
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CFP_SR00592_chute_2016
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Cork; Ireland; Middle Parish; Ballyphehane; 1930s - 2000s
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<div class="element-text"><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:</div>
<div class="element-text"><br />Furey, Jamie (2012) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a></div>
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Ballyphehane
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Barrack Street Band
Battle of Ballyphehane
Blarney Street Band
Cork City Pipe Band
Easons Hill
Fianna Band
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GAA
Hurling
Jack Lynch
Knapps Square
Sinn Fein
Tadgh Crowley
The Marsh
Thomas Ashe Hall
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Catching Stories (of Infectious Disease In Ireland)<br /><br /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Catching-Stories-w-logos-3.png" style="width:350px;height:100px;" alt="Catching-Stories-w-logos-3.png" />
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Life History; Ireland; Health; Communicable diseases; Epidemics; Poliomyelitis; Polio; Postpoliomyelitis syndrome; Tuberculosis; TB; Measles; Diphtheria; COVID-19; Vaccines;
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">Catching Stories is a folklore-STEM collaboration project funded through the </span><a style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" target="_blank" href="https://www.sfi.ie/" class="editor-rtfLink" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">Science Foundation Ireland</span></a><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> (SFI) Discover Programme.</span></p>
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">The project was concerned with those who had first had experiences of being stricken with the disease, their family members and the public health practitioners who served on the frontline of past epidemics. </span></p>
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">The diseases the project focused on were: polio, tuberculosis, diphtheria and measles, Spanish flu and COVID-19.</span></p>
<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> </span></p>
<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">The project grew from seed funding through the Irish Research Council and University College Cork's(UCC) College of Arts, Celtic Studies & Social Sciences. This funding enabled the team to collate material in the Cork Folklore Project's archive and create a pilot online resource. In 2022 the project was awarded an SFI Discover grant that allowed the team to undertake new bespoke interviews and grow the online dissemination platform. </span></p>
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">To date (February 2023), Catching Stories consists of XX interviews. 'Catching Stories' has also been drawn from the Cork Folklore Project Sound Archive for other related material. </span></p>
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">The project's main output is an online resource (</span><a style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" target="_blank" href="http://www.catchingstories.org" class="editor-rtfLink" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">www.catchingstories.org</span></a><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">). This website places personal oral testimonies adjacent to scientific information about the diseases. There was also a series of talks and presentations for </span><a style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" target="_blank" href="https://catchingstories.org/events/" class="editor-rtfLink" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">Heritage Week 2022, Culture Night 2022 and Science Week 2022</span></a><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">. </span></p>
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">With support from </span><a style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" target="_blank" href="https://www.ucc.ie/en/apc/" class="editor-rtfLink" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">APC Microbiome</span></a><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">, SFI and UCC's </span><a style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" target="_blank" href="https://libguides.ucc.ie/library" class="editor-rtfLink" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">Boole Library,</span></a><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> the Catching Stories team curated the interactive multimedia exhibition, </span><strong style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">Catching Stories of Infectious Disease in Ireland </span></strong><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">(16 February - 25 June 2023), in UCC's Boole Library. The Exhibition was subsequently taken by the Heatlh Service Executive and displayed in their campuses and buildings throughout Cork and Kerry. <br /></span></p>
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2019-2023
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Interviewees: Lesley Cox; Evelyn Wainwright; Emma Conway Clarke; Michael Hussey; Paul O'Brien, James Hoare Nagle; Edward Tanner; Michael and Theresa O'Sullivan,
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Ireland; 1920s-2020s
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<strong>Website<br /></strong><br /><a href="https://catchingstories.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.catchingstories.org</a><br /><br /><img src="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/e9fc50934d016888e8a29de8e14d25d4.JPG" style="width:500px;height:250px;" alt="e9fc50934d016888e8a29de8e14d25d4.JPG" /><br /><br />Here you can engage with the collected material side by side with biomedical commentary from immunologist Dr Elizebeth Brint.
<strong>Presentation and Listening Events<br /><br />Heritage Week 2022<br /><br /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Heritage-Week-2022-Library-talk-300x169.jpg" alt="Heritage-Week-2022-Library-talk-300x169.jpg" /><br /><br /></strong>For Heritage Week project coordinator James Furey gave a presentation of the project at <span class="TextRun SCXW143901132 BCX2"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW143901132 BCX2">Cork City Library Grand Parade</span></span><strong>. <br /><br /><br />Culture Night 2022<br /><br /><img class="size-medium wp-image-407 alignnone" src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Culture-Night-2020-30-300x224.jpg" alt="Culture-Night-2020-30-300x224.jpg" /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Culture-Night-2020-6-300x224.jpg" alt="Culture-Night-2020-6-300x224.jpg" /><br /></strong><br />For Culture night the team went to the streets to set up a <span class="TextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">‘</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">t</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">ime</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">travelling’ vaccination clinic</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">outside the old medical centre on Grattan St Cork City. Willing participants sat on a bench and heard Joe Scanlon’s story of receiving the ‘Branding Iron’, </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">Joe’s</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2"> term for the vaccine apparatus used in the 1950s. Joe’s story and the event elicited a great response from those who took part.</span></span><strong><strong><br /><br /><br />Science Week 2022<br /><br /><img src="https://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Science-Week-2022-2-724x1024.png" style="width:200px;height:300px;" alt="Science-Week-2022-2-724x1024.png" /><br /></strong></strong>
<p class="font_3"><strong><span class="color_11">Celebrate Science Family Day on 13th November 2022<br /><br /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/IMG_5840-300x200.jpg" alt="IMG_5840-300x200.jpg" /><br /></span></strong></p>
<p>Our first outing for Cork Science Festival was at the ‘Celebrate Science’ Family Day at University College Cork’s Western Gateway Building. For this event, we fired up the ‘Time-machine’ to bring participants on a trip to 1958, the day Joe Scanlon received a vaccine, or as Joe calls it, <a href="https://catchingstories.org/getting-the-vaccine/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">‘The Branding Iron’</a>.</p>
<p><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/IMG_5844-300x200.jpg" alt="IMG_5844-300x200.jpg" /><br /><br />The Catching Stories team held four sessions. We played Joe’s story and quizzed our audience on their knowledge of infectious diseases and their memory of receiving vaccines. There was excellent engagement with both young and old. The younger participants left with a greater understanding of diseases like polio and tuberculosis. And the older members relayed their stories of getting vaccinated and how infectious diseases had encroached on their lives.<br /><br /><strong>Science Week Talk UCC Student Hub<br /></strong><br />Those who braved the horrendous rain on November 15th were delighted to shelter in The Shtepps to hear the presentation from James Furey and Beth Brint on how folklore and STEM can work together to bring new perspectives on health education and understanding.</p>
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<strong>Exhibition<br /><br /><img src="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/d3170f22a998193439e53217786f14ea.jpg" style="width:200px;height:300px;" alt="d3170f22a998193439e53217786f14ea.jpg" /><br /><br /></strong><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The exhibition <span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">in UCC's Boole Library </span>(<span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">16 February - 25 June 2023), was an innovative exploration of</span> how to engage people with a topic that does not lend itself too easily to public dissemination. The exhibition foregrounded the human voice through audio installations (Made by Dr Jeffery Weeter), links to interviews, and interaction with physical objects. It invited visitors to join interviewees in the experience of manually ventilating a child with polio throughout the night in 1956 and to move along a waiting-room bench when facing vaccination by the dreaded ‘Branding Iron’ or to imagine the loss of a childhood classmate from measles. Artworks by <a href="https://lesleycoxart.com/earlier-works-3-polio-series/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lesley Cox</a> also explore the impact of polio on families and communities. </span></span><strong><br /><br /></strong><strong><br /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1676973595601-scaled.jpg" style="width:350px;height:650px;" alt="1676973595601-scaled.jpg" /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1676973595744-scaled.jpg" style="width:300px;height:650px;" alt="1676973595744-scaled.jpg" /><br /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1676973595665-scaled.jpg" style="width:650px;height:350px;" alt="1676973595665-scaled.jpg" /><br /><br /><br /><img src="https://lesleycoxart.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/image29.jpg" style="width:350px;height:650px;" alt="image29.jpg" /></strong>(<strong>©</strong>Lesley Cox)<strong><br /></strong>
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James Furey
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Evelyn Wainwright
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James Furey
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Togher, Cork
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83m 08s
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<p><strong>0.00.00 - 0.05.55</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Introduction and background</strong></p>
<p>Born on Douglas St/Nicolas Hill. One brother 11 months older, Mother from Roches Buildings Richmond hill and father from Douglas St.</p>
<p>Contracted Polio while in Youghal on a trip at 3 years of age. First brought to fever hospital Cork, then 2 years in Cappagh hospital Baldoyle.</p>
<p>Evelyn has no memory pf contacting the disease or her time in the hospital</p>
<p>Evelyn very attached to her mother, thinks maybe to do with being away for so long.</p>
<p>Father not on the scene after her birth, only met him twice in her life. He worked in Ford in Dagenham. Sent wire/money every 2 weeks to his mother.</p>
<p>Evelyn’s mother reared them hand to mouth. Had cleaning jobs, referred to as “Hurely”.</p>
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<p><strong>0.05.55- 0.10.51</strong></p>
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<p><strong>First memory of Polio </strong></p>
<p>St Finbarr’s hospital, Surgeon O’Connell said couldn’t operate till her bones had grown. Waited 5 years for first operation, was operated on during 1956 polio epidemic.</p>
<p>Hated going to the Orthopaedic hospital. Describes the wards. Death not on her mind at that stage.</p>
<p>No real memory of the 1956 epidemic. Her mother said that is it didn’t happen then the Orthopaedic would not have been used for polio suffers and Evelyn would have had to go to Dublin for operations. Mother didn’t like St Finbarr’s “Had a name” although they did have to visit every 6 months.</p>
<p>2 callipers from when she was 5. Couldn’t walk without them.</p>
<p>Wasn’t treated differently at home, had chores etc</p>
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<p><strong>0.10.51- 0.14:15</strong></p>
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<p><strong>School</strong></p>
<p><strong>Christ the King Turners Cross</strong></p>
<p>No wheelchairs, went to school in a Go-kart, wheels often fell off. Local girl volunteered to assist Evelyn going to school, still great friends.</p>
<p>Felt very isolated due to not being allowed to play in yard, attend concerts in school or do cooking.</p>
<p>Couldn’t read till after she left school.</p>
<p>Head nun very good to Evelyn (Mother Rose)</p>
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<p><strong>0.14:15 - 0.17.32</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Lourdes</strong></p>
<p>Applied in newspaper draw to go to Lourdes in 1958. Early pick up from North Cathedral, Aeroplane.</p>
<p>Mixed well with stranger.</p>
<p>They weren’t allowed to mix with other only those they travelled with. Doesn’t know why</p>
<p><strong>[Paused recording 16m 25s]</strong></p>
<p>Not allowed go to torchlight procession. Felt excluded. Mother had thought her not to get bogged down by exclusion of jeering</p>
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<p><strong>0.22.35 - 0.27.25</strong></p>
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<p> <strong>Employment</strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong>No secondary school. Was meant to go to school in cork polio new school in Montenotte but it never materialised in time. But was given tutoring by a nun in Maria Assumpta in Ballyphehane</p>
<p>At 14 went to Mel industries. South terrace made gloves. Some days she couldn’t get to work with broken callipers, they would give her work from home. Worked there for 2 years then moved to the Sunbeam. Was in the invisible mending department. Got the 3 buses from Ballyphehane to Blackpool than had to walk all the way to the other side of the sunbeam campus. Good money, good condition, well treated. Good comradery.</p>
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<p><strong>0.27.25 - 0.32.31</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Her neighbourhood and her brother Barry</strong></p>
<p>Neighbours would all help out. If mother was working, they would bread butter and sugar. Mother even delivered a baby. Mother was called upon for lots of things.</p>
<p>Brother would go on the lang (skipped school). Was given option to get job or go to the one-day-a-week. Got a job in bakery on Blarney st. Mother worked in Thompson’s of Thompson’s bakery house; Sam Thompson even made Evelyn’s wedding cake.</p>
<p>Brother went into mechanical work. O’Shea’s builders on South Mall. Tells story of him putting greasy clothes on chair and madness ensued.</p>
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<p><strong>0.32.31- 0.33.05</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Employment Cont.</strong></p>
<p>Sunbeam for 4 years. 5 uncles worked there too but they would never meet there.</p>
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<p><strong>0.33.05- 0.36.03</strong></p>
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<p><strong><span>Evelyn’s Aunt with polio</span></strong></p>
<p><span>Tells of an Aunt Maureen (fathers sister) who contracted polio as a teenager and moved to England shortly afterwards. Never had an operation had a raised shoe about 15 inches different. Marries with 3 children.</span></p>
<p><strong>Evelyn’s Mother</strong></p>
<p><span>Evelyn’s paternal grandmother and Evelyn’s mothers’ relationship</span></p>
<p>Single mother in the late 1940s/1950s.</p>
<p><span>Not looked down upon or treated different</span></p>
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<p><strong>0.36.03- 0.38.25</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Specialist shoes etc </strong></p>
<p>Used to buy special shoes in Saxone, not made to order. But had to be altered to fit calliper.</p>
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<p><strong>0.38.25 - 0.40.33</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Friends</strong></p>
<p>Positive relationship. There was name calling especially on crutches, didn’t affect her.</p>
<p>Catherine always by her side. Stayed in classroom with Evelyn. Mary from her estate would also helped out. volunteered</p>
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<p><strong>0.40.33 - 0.48.17</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Marriage </strong></p>
<p>Married at 21. Tells story of meeting husband on a social gathering. How getting connected with the Legion of Mary expanded her social group and led to more excursions. <span>Gougane Barra trip with this group led to her meeting husband Terry through a friend who had bumped into him in Tralee. </span></p>
<p>Terry returned to Liverpool, they kept up correspondence for months. Terry visits for Christmas, Evelyn visits for Easter, Married in the August in Ballyphehane. Moved to Liverpool that day. Too soon.</p>
<p>Evelyn’s mother visited in October and stayed for 7 months until they all moved back to Ireland.</p>
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<p><strong>0.48.17 - 0.53.05</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Husband Terry and her Children</strong></p>
<p>Worked in scrap, then John A. Wood, then a bin collector. Worked 3 jobs at one stage. Shared paper sales job with Evelyn’s mother. Terry was great father. He would prepare all nappies and bottles before he went to work.</p>
<p>First child Michelle born in 1968 England. Apartment not suitable for Evelyn to rear child. Michelle never left her side. Another child “wild”</p>
<p>No mishaps or falls when children were young.</p>
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<p><strong>0.53.05 - 0.55.23</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Operations and mobility</strong></p>
<p>Evelyn explains her mobility after her operations. Tells story of difficulty manoeuvring hill. 4 operations in the orthopaedic first at 9 last at 16</p>
<p>Difficulty visiting grandparents</p>
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<p><strong>0.55.23- 0.58.19</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Maternal Grandparents</strong></p>
<p>Lived on Richmond hill,</p>
<p>Grandfathers job was to lift the Brian Boru bridge. Strict man, no fun when he was home. Lovely man and supportive. Boiled mutton dinner every Sunday. Evelyn was in her teens when they died, 8 years apart.</p>
<p>Grandmother bought her Bush radio.</p>
<p> </p>
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<p><strong>0.58.19- 1.07.34</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Evelyn’s Health.</strong></p>
<p>21 years after last operation was next time she went to a doctor. Gynaecological issue. Contracted Pneumonia the next week, very bad, cardiac arrest, 10 days in hospital.</p>
<p>Second daughter sick as a child. Years of uncertainty. Evelyn worked out it was a sugar allergy. She is over 6ft tall and no longer allergic to sugar.</p>
<p>Her experience with polio was not as bad as others. No polio syndrome.</p>
<p>Evelyn tells on incident where she broke her femur in Galway 1999. Doctor who operated did not know reason for her legs being different lengths and corrected them. This led to Evelyn having serious issues later.</p>
<p>Evelyn explains that she has to use 2 walking stick, that she has driven a car since the 1970s, and is only using a motorised wheelchair for 2 years and only on doors.</p>
<p>Had 2 more falls in the last 8 years. Broken ankles and kneecap. Now terrified of falling. So got the wheelchair, not HSE supported. Takes the strain of the everyday.</p>
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<p><strong>1.07.34 – 1.15.21</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Disability Services etc.</strong></p>
<p>Cork Polio general aftercare, Disabled Drivers Ireland.</p>
<p>Evelyn tells of getting one driving lesson and being on her own after that. Has driven since the early 1970s. then was driving instructor for disabled drivers Ireland, was given a vehicle to teach other how to drive.</p>
<p>Through AGM with disabled driver’s, she heard of new group for polio survivors, attended first meeting later became a director of the group for 10 years. Still very involved in organising event.</p>
<p>Evelyn teel of using Vienna Woods hotel for monthly meetings but they had to stop using the hotel due to a new entrance that was built with steps and no disabled access. “Now we are barred form there”. Evelyn expresses her anger at such a backward step.</p>
<p>Evelyn describes how many strides have been taken to help give access to those with disability. But is angered at the change to disabled parking in Cork city which effectively means that she can no longer visit there. Describes how difficult it is.</p>
<p>Has to always check ahead if a restaurant or hotel is accessible. Long drives also a problem due to lack of facilities.</p>
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<p><strong>1.15.22 – 1.16.35</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Other Polio cases in Ballyphehane</strong></p>
<p>Mention Marie O’Mahoney form Pearse Road, Met a couple of times in hospital.</p>
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<p><strong>1.16.35 – 1.17.35</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Faith</strong></p>
<p>Major part of her life. Rosery most nights as a child, Starts her day with mass. Hasn’t passed it on to her children.</p>
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<p><strong>1.17.35 – 1.20.20</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Relationship with Aunts.</strong></p>
<p>Not much pf relationship with her Aunt Maureen who had polio, met her when she visited. More of a relationship with her aunt Rita, Rita was more like a sister only 7 years apart. Very close all their lives, Rita only died a few years ago. Still close to Rita’s family.</p>
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<p><strong>1.20.20 – 1.23.08</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Final Thoughts</strong></p>
<p>Doesn’t like the condescending element people can give off. Literal patting on the head etc.</p>
<p>Doesn’t let the negative bother her. Some disabled people demand not ask which leads to bitterness.</p>
<p>Her mother raised her better</p>
<p><strong>[Interview Ends]</strong></p>
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Evelyn was born in the 1940s. Her parents were living in England prior to her birth. Father worked for Ford in Dagenham. Evelyn only met her father a handful of times. After her parent’s relationship ended Evelyn’s mother and her older brother Barry moved to the corporation estate of O’Growney Crescent in Ballyphehane. At the age of 3 Evelyn contracted polio. Two years were spent in Cappagh Hospital in Finglas Co. Dublin.
Evelyn brings us through her live, from schooling Turners Cross which she made lifelong friendships but also had her first instance of isolation. Not following on to secondary education Evelyn got a job in the Textile industry, first at Mel Industries then in the Sunbeam.
Evelyn talks about her life getting married and having a family in her early 20s, the realities of living with polio and raising children. She talks about her involvement in groups such as Disabled Driver Ireland and Polio Survivors Ireland.
Evelyn also describes her mother character in a time when single mother s might have been looked down upon. She mentions an aunt the also had polio.
Evelyn also touches on how disability access while it has improved from the days of her youth has not really been thought through with any real concern for those with disabilities.
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29 June 2022
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CFP_SR00800_Wainwright_2022
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Polio
Ballyphehane
Callipers
Cappagh Hospital
Cork city
Disabled Drivers Association of Ireland
Motherhood
Polio
Polio Survivors Ireland
School
Sunbeam
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The Ballyphehane Oral History Project
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Life history interviews with the inhabitants of the Cork City suburb of Ballyphehane about life in the area pre and post city corporation development.
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In June 2016 Contact was made by the<a href="https://19162016committee.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Ballyphehane 1916 Centenary Commemoration Committee</a> with the Cork Folklore Project to establish an oral history project to coincide with the events in Ballyphehane marking the centenary commemoration of the 1916 rising. The goal was to collect the memories of the residents and have a night in the community centre where these interviews would be played for the community. Ballyphehane is a suburb in the Southside of the city between Turners Cross and Togher. It was built between the 1940s and 1960s and inhabited by families rehoused from the city centre, much like Gurranabraher and Knocknaheeny in the north side. The significance of the 1916 rising to Ballyphehane is that the streets are named after the leaders of the rising. It was decided that CFP researcher and Ballyphehane resident, James Furey, would head up the project and assist volunteers in technical training and interview techniques: all interviews were carried out under the auspices of the the CFP. This interviewing project is ongoing, and there have been a number of community listening events in 2017 and 2018. Interviews have been carried out by CFP staff James Furey and David McCarthy, and by Ballyphehane resident Arnie O'Connell.
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2016 and ongoing
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Interviewees: Hilary Lyons; Arthur Walker Snr; John Chute; Marie McAllen (with contribution from Liam Ohúigín); Elizabeth 'Lizzie' O'Sullivan; Tom Falvey; Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley
Interviewers: James Furey; Arnie O'Connell; David McCarthy;
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Catalogue Numbers: <br /><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:
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Ethnographic interviews carried out with inhabitants of Ballyphehane detailing their lives pre and post corporation development (ca. 1930s to 2018).
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Furey, Jamie (2018) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a>
<strong>Listening Events<br /><br /><br /></strong>Library Lane Café Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> and <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a> 15th June 2017<br /><br />Tory Top Library Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a>
Oral History
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James Furey
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Arthur Walker Sr
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65m57s
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Ballyphehane, Cork
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The following is a short extract from the interview transcript, copyright of the Cork Folklore Project. If you wish to access further archival material please contact CFP, folklorearchive@gmail.com
AW: But, ‘twas there it all started. The apples, and my going down to Friar’s Walk and finally Ballyphehane and going into Paddy O’Halloran’s orchard. That’s where the church is now and the school above it, then. They built the school eventually. After building the church, then, the building of the church, there was no one that I knew around that time working on houses and friends that we knew very well and a lot of people then that got work, got houses in Ballyphehane, down the lower end, they were getting work above in the building of the church, like, it gave great work to locals and no outsiders, ‘twas all local direct labour in Ballyphehane. After that, then, it progressed, the church was packed, packed, packed and the Corporation, there was two priests arrived, and they had no house, so the corner of Joe Murphy Road in Friar’s Walk, there was two houses hadn’t been given out yet to any family or anything and they gave the priests one each, one of the houses and they lived there for years, and eventually they built four houses, eventually, we ended up with five priests, years after, we had so many priests that time, and they were all good men. They built four houses then, on the grounds of the church, there alongside of it there below. That was the beginning of it, then. And then, after that, things were picking up with the building of the roads in Ballyphehane, so to me, the greatest thing of all, there was a meeting called for everyone in the parish, and the churches used be packed that time, they were starting a credit union. ‘Twas the first in Cork.
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Early Life: </b>Evergreen Street. 3 brother and 3 sisters. Father worked in England. Mother was an invalid. The house had 1 little room. Bad conditions, no work in Cork. Would only see father once a year or once every second year. Telegram boy would come with wages every now and then.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Eldest sister looked after them. No room for 2 eldest siblings in the house. Mattress on the floor. Remembers the talk of his eldest siblings and cousin from Turners cross deciding to emigrate to England. The travelled on the InnisFallon. They were 17 or 18, embarrassed to bring friends back to the house. Arthur thinks that this may have been the deciding factor to leave.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">The Grandmother lived next door, she knitted down quilts from peoples woollen jumpers and sold them to her neighbours. She also sold apples from a barrel from her front window to the school children for a penny. The apples came from an orchard on the end of Friars Walk were Ballyphehane church is now. It was Arthur’s job on the weekend to go and collect the apples. He often cried, had a boxcar with 2 pram wheels, he would go all the way to the orchard, half way down Friars walk where the Marian Pharmacy is now was a was 4 cottages and a water pump with a cup attached where Arthur used to stop to get refreshed. Where the orchard was there was also a farm house belong to Paddy Halloran with a big country yard with a lot of fowl. Get the bag of apples from him, wouldn’t get back home till 8 in the evening. He used to give Arthur an apple on the sly.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">The corporation decided to build up Ballyphehane, so he had to sell his land to the corporation, and opened the Bull McCabe pub on the Kinsale Road, his son had it after him. The collecting of the apples was Arthur’s first experience of Ballyphehane.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The building of Ballyphehane:</b> there was no building work at the time, so those who had been moved out here were given work on the church, all local direct labour.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">The church used to be packed with parishioners.</p>
<p class="western">2 priests were assigned to the area, they were firstly given corporation houses on the corner of Joe Murphy road and Friars walk, eventually they built four house at the rear of the church. The parish ended up with 5 priests, ‘all good men’. After that thing were picking up with the building of the roads in Ballyphehane.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The Credit Union: </b>was the greatest thing that happened. Ballyphehane was the first Credit union in Cork, could have been the first in the country (First outside Dublin). Meeting called in the school hall about setting it up. Bishop Lucey had been in America and had met people there that told him about the credit union movement which had begun in Germany. The New Cannon in the church, Cannon Henchy was told by Bishop that it would be a good idea to set up a credit union in the area to bring people together. Great interest from the beginning, a few men volunteered to take it on, and it grew.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Due to the speed at which Ballyphehane was built, the houses got dishevelled quite quickly, with doors off hinges etc. The Corporation had a repair unit on Friars walk in a tin shed, that is still there (the pipe band is there now) and can’t be moved with out permission, it was originally a part of a market garden. The corporation weren’t very reliable when it came to repairs. The credit union filled this void and enabled the locals to afford to maintain their house.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">At first the credit union was based out of the church. Arthur volunteered on Saturday with the Children’s bank.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">It picked up with everybody saving locally.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">To buy a mattress or anything one would have to go to Sean Jennings on grand parade where the park is now, you would be paying off for one item but when that was nearly paid off they would get you to buy something else and people would get further into debt. The credit union made these purchases easier and more affordable.</p>
<p class="western">In Arthur’s case, he was able to get a loan to build some garden walls at the back of his house, eventually he was able to buy a car for £80, which was an awful lot of money, couldn’t have afforded it without the assistance of the credit union.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The Car: </b>in question was a Morris Minor which had to fit a family of seven and whoever else was tagging along.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">The car opened up things to the family, they would go to red strand or Youghal every Sunday.</p>
<p class="western">One Sunday a friend of his daughter Pat’s was with them on a trip, he was teaching Pat to drive, got to Bandon and she wouldn’t drive through the town, so they swapped seats Arthur drove through the town and swapped back again after the town, on the way home same thing happened again but this time there was a hitchhiker on the road, while they were swapping seats the hitchhiker thought they had stopped for them and sat in the seat ‘Jesus, you’ve a big crowd in here’ he said, Arthur had to explain what was going on and the hitchhiker didn’t take to kindly to being removed from the car.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>The Credit union Cont</b>.: progress was made through the credit union, the council was always putting you on the longer finger, so you’d go to the credit union for money and get a local to the job in the house. Back door, windows, today he says he wouldn’t have anything if it weren’t for the credit union. The council owe them a big honour, the beauty of Ballyphehane house and upkeep of gardens is due to the CU, and the CU gets little recognition for this. Footballers and hurlers and anyone gets honoured by the council but not the CU.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>FR Matthew, the Graveyard and the GAA:</b> They started a hurling club called the Fr Matthews due to him being buried in St Joseph’s cemetery. His grave was a famous site where people would go for cure, they would do rounds of his grave in hope to cure cancer. The comedian Ignatius Commerford lived across the road from Arthur and he used to do rounds of the grave every morning after he had a stroke, trying to get his speech back.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Back to the GAA club, the locals weren’t happy with name, so called a meeting in turners cross school and had a vote, which passed the name Ballyphehane Hurling and Football club.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">They set up street leagues for the young fellas under 12, each street had its own teams which competed against each other. They played first at Tory Top park.</p>
<p class="western">Casement Soccer club then set up street leagues too</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0.49cm;background:#ffffff;"><b>The Battle of Ballyphehane: </b>One Sunday<b> </b>the GAA club and the Soccer team’s finals clashed. Both were to be played at Tory Top park. It was known as the battle of Ballyphehane. The men on Connolly Road were setting up soccer goal post and men on the other side were putting up the Hurling goal post, there was children and the Sinn Féin pipe band waiting to play, the nest thing they men started arguing ‘ye can play after’ and Paddy Mahoney took off his coat and shirt, they had to call the priest to settle the matter, Fr Fitzgerald came up told one group to play next week and the other to play the following week and the final should be played on these days for every year.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Neville’s Lane</b> at the side of the Marian Pharmacy, the side gate to the park used to be a massive house belonging to the Neville family. They gave the pitch to the children. We used to take a picnic to the cemetery on Sundays and look at the grave, nothing else to do, no TV or radio, you’d have go through that lane way, no Derrynane road at the time no Doyle’s road to Connolly road. Connolly road was just stones and earth.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>Getting the house in Ballyphehane: </b>you needed a contact to get a house in the area, ‘you’d have to know the Lord Mayor’, ‘some councillor had pull’ Dino was a fierce man in those days’.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Arthur had to go to the tinny shed with the form and house would be given out the following week. Was told to pick a house on Joe Murphy Road and come back and tell them. Picked No. 52 because the sun was shining in the back garden. Got the key the following Monday. The road was not yet finished, no fences and earth and rubble everywhere. There a lot of families worse off, Arthur by then had a job in Murphy’s Bacon Factory on evergreen road (a job he kept for 33years). The Walkers were the first to move in the road, in 1957.</p>
<p class="western">He had been living in a flat in Washington street, above the Washington inn looking over the roof of the court house. MacDonald’s from Bishopstown owned the pub. After he got married he had nowhere to go, a fella told him to go to Oliver Plunket street and see John Mcasey (pub by the market) he gave him a small flat as a stopgap. They were in a 1 room attic sweatbox, 4-5 flights of stairs. His sister was home, her brother -in-law was a housing officer in the city hall. They were out for a drink and a chatted about family and Arthurs situation came up, the brother in law came to assess the flat, he discovered that the Jim Barry’s (boxer and cork hurling coach) tailor was on a lower floor and had four men working and one toilet which Arthur had to share with them. He said that’s illegal, later got the call from the council and got the bungalow on Joe murphy road. Very happy on Joe Murphy road. ‘I’d go back there today’ lived there for nearly 10 years.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>Collecting the church dues:</b> Fr Fitzgerald called to the houses chatting to people and tell of the churches debt. He appointed Arthur and his neighbour Timmy Cooney to call to the house on their road very Sunday to collect a shilling from each and mark it in a jotter, and return the money to the sacristy. Some would pay, others would skip it. Cooney used say ‘don’t go in there now, the young fella will come out and he’ll say ‘me mam said she’s gone out’’ did that for years. Was then roped in to the credit union, for the children’s bank on Saturday mornings from 10 to 12.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The move to Nuns Walk</b>: He was told that his family was too big for the house on Joe Murphy road and that he would have to move to Togher. He had 5 kids at this stage. They were all upset. No reasonable time to leave. Told a chap in the credit union and he said ‘I’ll be leaving my house on nuns walk shortly, I’ll have a word with the Fr Fitzgerald’ (he had great pull, he was known as Lord Fitzgerald, he inherited Fitzgerald Park and the Cork cricket grounds and Fitzgerald’s place by the south infirmary.) Fr Fitzgerald got on to Jimmy Dineen the housing officer who was also a founding member of the credit union and he helped out again and got Arthur and his family into the house on Nuns walk. Got the house but was to tell no one because there was loads of interest in houses at the time, but he got it through his volunteering with the church and the credit union.</p>
<p class="western"><b>The previous owner</b> used to do shoe repairs in the house. He had worked for Hanover Shoe company where the dole office is now on Clarkes bridge, that closed down and himself and a fella named Jack Dwyer (the sunbeam dywers) decided to rent the store on Pouladuff road (ucc use it now). He was exporting boxes of shoes to Italy, in the end he wasn’t getting anything back, found out that they were going to a false address, and he lost all the whole business. He then started a repair shop here in the house. So there was smell of leather in the house from him. His wife used to give out about it, so he rent a shop on Peasre square, later he packed it in, the wife said he was over worked. He moved from here to where SuperValu is on the Togher Road. Only Fr Fitzgerald, jimmy Dineen and Arthur knew of the move.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>The buses in Ballyphehane 1960s: </b>they came up as far as the church, turned up friars walk and turned by the tinny shed and go around the corner, that house had massive trees. Arthur describes trees of Ballyphehane which re-date the suburb being built.<b> </b>The Carroll’s had a house over by where the harp bar is and got to pick a house wherever they wanted in the area and moved to Connolly road. The big weeping willows on Derrynane road (recently cut down), the bus would turn there, the conductor would sit on the wall and have a smoke or go to the toilet, and the driver and the school kids would be waiting for the conductor, the young fellas would hit the bell and the driver would head off without the conductor, and more fella would get on and hit the bell again, the conductor would be running after and the driver would have to turn back to get the conductor. The trees at lynches (Katheleen Lynch the TD, her family fierce Sinn Féin man and a Bowl player, Dinny) house were older than Ballyphehane.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The first shop in Ballyphehane: </b>was down Kilreendowney avenue was owned by the Carrol family. Used stay open late, people used to get milk and cigarettes. A work colleague of Arthur’s, Sammy Forde married one of the Carroll’s daughters, and the family gave her a gift of what is now Fordes shop on Pearse road.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The Club House? Tory Top park </b>The Club house? Could be Neville’s house in the park, people did have meetings there, but it got vandalised. Or it could be the</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">Club house on the corner of ST Patrick’s road, Deer park, across the road from the shop, was Nemo Rangers first club house.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">There was a public toilet in Ballyphehane park. In the side gate off Neville’s lane, behind where the goals would be there was a square red bricked house and it was a gent’s toilet. ? Arthur Jnr has no recollection of these, must be early 1960s.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">2 characters used to work with Arthur, Connie Bennett (Joe Murphy Road) and Tommy Kelleher (pauladuff Road) fierce for the drink, they could end up anywhere. They were coming home late one night from Mountain bar on Evergreen Road, everyone used the park as shortcut, the lads were going through the park and Tommy was bursting for the toilet, rushed over to the gents and tommy went in and ran out quickly shouting with his pants down round his knees, he had walked in on a young couple embracing. Connie told all of Cork about it.</p>
<p class="western">The Bandstand used to have a band every second Sunday, great place for the kids.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>The Explosion at the republican plot in St Finbarr’s Cemetery: </b>The monument. Timmy Cooney said that they should go out to the cemetery on Glasheen road to see de Valera unveil a plaque to the old IRA, there will be a band at 3pm.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">The night before there was an explosion out there. You could hear it all around. Some Sinn Féin guy’s had set a bomb at the monument to get de Valera. They had been at a dance in the Tomas Ashe hall (Sinn Féin hall) on Fr Matthew quay. Mick Collins from Evergreen Road, Madden from Upper Fr Matthew Road, and a young fella Swanton, from Blackrock. Arthur knew them, had worked in some capacity with Swanton and was quite friendly with him. They decide to have a smoke before they left the plot. Whatever happened, the bomb went off, three of them went up, one of Madden’s arms was found a distance away, he is still alive on turners Cross. Collins ran off to England. Swanton died in the blast. Timer on the bomb set wrong.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">This had a fructuous effect on the IRA in the city and led to factions being set up. Sinn Féin members who attended the funeral was expelled from the party. Arthur attended the Funeral. Swanton worked for Sisk and used to do lot of jobs in the Bacon Factory.</p>
<p class="western"><b>Mr Mulcahy:</b> form Nuns walk, took park in the boarder Campaign in the late 1950s early 1960s in the North. He was arrested in an ambush where Séan South killed. (He roped Barry Doyle into Sinn Fein). He was arrested and jailed for 12 years, wouldn’t sign out or let the family visit. Fr Fitzgerald visited him. He died and they buried in St Finbarr’s, Guards and army presence to stop the gun salute from happening. But later in the school playing field in Ballyphehane they did the gun salute, even though unmarked cars were monitoring the area.</p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;"><b>What Ballyphehane means to Arthur:</b> The greatest thing ever. It gave him a place to live and to enjoy. Never met so many great people anywhere. Wouldn’t live anywhere else, the most pleasant place. It used to all bog land, used to pick blackberries, there used to be a train line, he was on the last train to Courtmacsherry 1963. Used to pick birds nest. Would walk out to the viaduct, he was there for the lofting of the bowl by the German on the ramp. It was done it with a 16 inch bowl, the normal weight is 28. The German did it with the 16inch while Mick Barry did it with the 28. They had a ramp to help get extra height. Murphy’s brewery gave him £1000 pounds to do it.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;">The bishop said that Barry’s bowl only actually went through a gap and didn’t really scale it.</p>
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<p class="western"><b>INTERVIEW ENDS</b></p>
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Arthur Walker Snr: Evergreen Road, Ballyphehane
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Life History: Evergreen Road, Ballyphehane, Childhood, Poverty, Emigration
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Arthur tells of his early life on Evergreen road and the move to Ballyphehane in the 1950s
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13 September 2016
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<div class="element-text"><br />Furey, Jamie (2012) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a></div>
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<p>This collection focuses on a building on Grattan Street which has served as a Quaker Meeting House, a public Dispensary and as the Grattan Street Health Centre. The project was a collaboration between the CFP and the Cork North Community Work Department, Cork Kerry Community Healthcare, Health Services Executive HSE. </p>
<p>The interviewees fall into two main groups: those who worked in the building and those who lived in the surrounding area and availed of the services provided in the building.</p>
<p>This project follows on from the collaboration with the HSE in the “<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>”. There is a further connection between the two projects as many of the staff and services once provided in the Grattan Street Health Centre have now relocated to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. This topic of the relocation of services is also covered in some staff interviews. <br /><br />To date (October 2021) 13 interviews have been completed for the project.<br /><br />Interviewees discuss the Grattan Street building itself in terms of its historic significance, its benefits and drawbacks as a workplace. Broader themes related to or inspired by the building are also touched on including: personal relationship with the building, staff camaraderie, the problems with parking, memorable incidents at work, patient experiences and descriptions of the people and services for which the building catered.<br /><br />Healthcare professional interviewees detail their training, career progression and comparisons between Grattan Street and other workplaces. Their testimonies also provide a link with the community of patients they served giving further insight into attitudes to healthcare, diseases, vaccines, description of social conditions and the changes in medicine and technology in their working lives.<br /><br />Non-healthcare professional interviewees describe childhood experiences in or around Grattan Street (The Marsh or The Middle Parish), the social, cultural and economic conditions of the area, tenements, businesses, attitudes to and experiences of healthcare, vaccines, diseases, medicines and medical professionals as well as observed changes in these areas over time.<br /><br />Interviewees also reflect on the possible future uses of the Grattan Street building.<br /><br /><strong>Related Reference Sources</strong></p>
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<li>Barrington, R.<em> (</em>1987) <em>Health, medicine and politics in Ireland, 1900–1970</em>. Dublin: Institute of Public Administration.</li>
<li><span>Butler D.M. (2004) <em>The Quaker meeting houses of Ireland</em></span>. Dublin : Irish Friends Historical Committee.</li>
<li><span>Byrne, J. (2004) <em>Byrne's dictionary of Irish local history.</em> Cork: Mercier Press.</span></li>
<li>Cooke, R. T. (1999) <em>My Home by the Lee</em>. Irish Millennium Publications: Cork.</li>
<li><span>Dempsey, P. J. & White, L. W. ‘Childers, Erskine Hamilton’. <em>Dictionary of Irish Biography</em> </span>[Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Harrison, R.S. (1991) <em>Cork City Quakers 1655-1939: A Brief History</em>. Cork.</li>
<li>Houston, M. (2004). ‘Life before the GP’. <em>The</em> <em>Irish Times. </em>Available at : <<a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599">https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599</a> > [Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Keohane, F. (2020) <em>The Buildings of Ireland Cork City and County</em>. New Haven and London: Yale University Press.</li>
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2019-2020
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<p>Interviewees: Edith O’Regan, 'Mary', Sean Higgisson, Aoife O’Brien, Eileen Kearney, Imelda Cunning, Jane Ward, Liam Ó hUigín, Joe Scanlan, Mary Mulcahy, Philomena Cassidy, Don Morrissy, Derek O’Connell</p>
<p>Interviewer: <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a>, (<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a>)</p>
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<p>Cork, Ireland 1940s-2020s; Waterford, Ireland; Dublin, Ireland; Limerick, Ireland;</p>
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<p><strong>Exhibition</strong></p>
<p>Artist Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave (also an interviewee for the project) created a visual artwork based around the Grattan Street Medical Centre building itself, as a workplace and health centre. The artwork incorporated direct quotations from the oral history interviews conducted for the project, and also included brief historical paragraphs about the building researched, written and edited by the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy. This exhibition was launched on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 in “St Peter’s” on the North Main Street where a “Listening Event” was also held to mark the occasion.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:10%;"><br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" alt="Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" /><br /><br /></p>
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<p><strong>Presentation and Listening Event</strong></p>
<p>To coincide with the launch of the Grattan Street Stories Exhibtion on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 a listening event and presentation of the history of the Grattan Street Medical Centre building and description of the project was given by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/427A7714-1.jpg" alt="427A7714-1.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Presentation</strong></p>
<p>In 2019 at the OHNI conference the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy discussed social media and oral history which included audio excerpts from the Grattan Street Stories Project along with photographs of the building.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" alt="Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Audio Visual Presentation</strong></p>
<p>An audio-visual slideshow was produced featuring oral testimony from the Grattan Street Stories Project and combined with suitable images of Grattan Street and from Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave’s exhibition. This was created by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /></p>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnjEtQeOb3I&t=1s&ab_channel=CorkFolklore" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audio Visual Presentation Available to listen and view here.</a>
<p><strong>Health and Vaccines Oral History Research<br /></strong><br />Many of the interviews conducted for the Grattan Street project formed an integral part of the testimonies and research for the innovative<br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">'Catching Stories'<span> </span>of infectious disease in Ireland </a>project funded by the Irish Research Council.<br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" alt="Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" /></a></p>
<strong>Social Media</strong> <br /><br />Numerous suitable audio excerpts from the oral history interviews have been edited and shared on CFP's social media channels.<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736</a>
<strong>Orthopaedic Hospital</strong><br />Cork Folklore Project in collaboration with the HSE conducted an oral history project focussing on the Orthapaedic Hospital in Gurranabraher. <br /><br /><span>Many of the staff and services once provided at the Grattan Street Health Centre site were moved to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. </span><br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>
<strong>Swimming Article</strong><br /><br />Kieran Murphy and James Furey co-authored an article about<br /><a href="https://tripeanddrisheen.substack.com/p/swim-city?s=r" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Swimming in Cork</a> which appeared in the online magazine Tripe + Drisheen. This article features a number of interview extracts collected as part of the Grattan Street Stories Project.
<strong>Related Interviews<br /><br /></strong>CFP_SR00756_Quilligan_2019;<br />CFP_SR00758_Broderick_2019;<br />CFP_SR00670_OShea_2018;<strong><br /><br /></strong>
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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Sean Higgisson
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Kieran Murphy
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55 Minutes 26 Seconds
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Grattan Street Medical Centre
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<p><strong>0.00.00 - 0.03.24</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Family and Early Memories</strong></p>
<p>Born in the Bons (Bon Secours Hospital). Lived all life in Cork except 4 years. Holidays in early teens to Ardmore fishing for mackerel. Brothers Paddy & Brian. Grew up on Hartlands Road by the Lough. Played football in the field by Lough or fished. Primary school St Joseph’s on Mardyke- socially mixed school with people from Northside, Southside and the country farmers’ children. Pres (PBC Presentation Brothers College) was a paid school beside them with uniforms. Got a lift to school with dad in the morning. Hour and a half for lunch so walked home for lunch. Mother stayed at home wasn’t allowed to work in public service once married. Secondary School CSN Coláiste Spioraid Naoimh Bishopstown for 3 years. Then the Regional College for junior engineering certificate course. Went on to an electrical engineering course and qualified in the early 1980s not many jobs available. Went to England using qualifications a little. Got job as porter in Grattan Street with Southern Health Board now HSE.</p>
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<p><strong>0.03.24 - 0.06.08</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Family House and Grandparents</strong></p>
<p>Small house 2 rooms in front, 2 behind, middle bathroom and flat-roofed kitchen at the back. Shared bedroom with 2 brothers. When 13 years old his grandmother came to live with them. In his pre-teen years his grandmother knitted a lot of their jumpers “long in the backs to keep your ass warm”. Grandmother was independent woman, went to Liverpool when 16, worked as telephonist. She married teacher in Cork & lived on Redemption Road. Stocky woman. Big motherly figure. People didn’t take exercise back then. Pleasant personality. Family visited her house on Sundays and she had “curranty bread”, Lucozade or orangeade. Parents would bring grandmother to mass. Remembers grandfather as very stern and always spoke Irish.</p>
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<p><strong>0.06.08 - 0.08.30</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Games</strong></p>
<p>Football across the Lough. Describes Red Rover game. In winter played football on the road which was a steep hill. Only one car on the road picked two neighbours’ gates to play football. Broke a few windows. Good natured nothing untoward. About 12 children on the road at the time. Still living on the road he grew up on now only about 4 children. There could have been 20 children at one time. The football wasn’t taken that seriously it was only killing time.</p>
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<p><strong>0.08.30 - 0.09.30</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Women banned from Work in Public Service after Marriage</strong></p>
<p>Mother took up painting with local oil painters in Cork for about 15 years. And then looked after her mother. There was no nursing homes.</p>
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<p><strong>0.09.30 - 0.11.23</strong></p>
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<p><strong>School and Teachers</strong></p>
<p>Br Albius teacher keen on science. Taught them Latin in primary school. Taught about condensation on the glass. Teacher used a sheet in the schoolyard to show how a sail on a ship works. Br John was favourite teacher because he played guitar.</p>
<p>Sean thinks that life puts you in a certain career and if you’re happy you stay with it. You can “what-if” your life away but there is no point.</p>
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<p><strong>0.11.23 - 0.13.18</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Time in England</strong></p>
<p>Worked in factory doing electronic assembly. Lived in flat on Eton High Street with a few lads. Went to Tottenham Hotspur matches at night with stadium lit up- magical experience.</p>
<p>Enjoyed England but after 2 years decided he didn’t want to grow old in England and if you stay too long you won’t be able to get away from it. Saw a generation of aunts and uncles who never came back to Ireland and regretted it.</p>
<p>Likes the outdoors and hillwalking. Hardest thing about England- you can’t get away from people. Population of 55 million.</p>
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<p><strong>0.13.18 - 0.15.20</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Hillwalking Hobby through Photography</strong></p>
<p>Got into hillwalking through photography and landscape photography. But hillwalking took over. Cork Backpackers hillwalking club for about 20 years. Dungarvan Comeraghs, Galtees, Carrantuohill, Beara peninsula. Can only do that in rural places of England.</p>
<p>Club meets on grand parade and divides into groups for different walks. Get coffee before the walk and a meal after the walk.</p>
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<p><strong>0.15.20 - 0.17.46</strong></p>
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<p><strong>What it takes to lead a walk</strong></p>
<p>They wouldn’t let you lead the walks. He went on the committee in order to put himself forward for leading walks. Kevin O’Flynn and from Ken Sumtana Malaysia taught people how to lead walks. Teaching people how to navigate and read maps. Started leading as coleader, then leader with supervision and it became clear he had an aptitude for it.</p>
<p>Good hillwalker has a degree of fitness. Choose a leader with he same fitness level as you. The walk is only as fast as the slowest walker. About 5 hill walking clubs in Cork. Mountaineers, Cork Backpackers, Bishopstown is big club, Blarney and a few others. They dovetail into cycling as well.</p>
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<p><strong>0.17.46 - 0.22.50</strong></p>
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<p><strong><span>Writing books on Hillwalking </span></strong></p>
<p><span>Hill-walked on his own to research the books. Came across a slim guidebook on hillwalking and decided he could do it. So he wrote one on Mangerton. Impossible to get anyone to publish it so went to publish it himself but you end up with 3000 books in cardboard boxes. A guy in west Cork distributed small publishers’ books. Over 10 years he wrote 5 guide books. They made him a few thousand euro a year. Reeks, West Cork, County Cork.</span></p>
<p><span>Books included: routes, maps, route descriptions, a little bit of history. Size of a letter about 50 pages and can fit in the pocket. Books became dated because places on the routes could no longer be accessed.</span></p>
<p><span>“Trails Ireland” can be accessed on the internet.</span></p>
<p><span>In France you cannot own up to the cliff face so the whole coastal area can be walked in France. It’s not the same here in Ireland.</span></p>
<p><span>While in Ireland the old railway lines are being reopened more should be done to open the coastal area.</span></p>
<p><span>Putting up barbed wire to stop people crossing the land.</span></p>
<p><span>Success of Dungarvan Greenway</span></p>
<p><span>Westport-Achill Cycle way</span></p>
<p><span>Athlone to Mullingar route. Thinks we need more of that in the world we live in.</span></p>
<p><span>If motorways can be built requiring land being baought up then it can be done.</span></p>
<p><span>Mahon walk on Sundays</span></p>
<p><span>Success of Ballincollig park or the lough for recreation. Common ownership will be taken up</span></p>
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<p><strong>0.22.50 - 0.25.50</strong></p>
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<p><strong>First impressions of Grattan Street & services over the years</strong></p>
<p>26 years old when started in Grattan Street. Thought it would be a job for 6 months but stayed 35 years!</p>
<p>Not much happening when he started. There were Public Health Nurses and Community Welfare Officers looked after people waiting for their dole or social welfare or interim payments. Initially Community Welfare gave out beds and blankets in Grattan Street but eventually it was thought this was demeaning and gave vouchers instead.</p>
<p>Sean counts at least 15 different services run from Grattan Street during his time there: Public health nurses. Dental (came from City Hall), Schools Nurses (came from City Hall)</p>
<p>Speech therapy, Social Health Education Project (SHEP)</p>
<p>Psychology department, community workers, home help, podiatry, eye clinics, admin, Area medical officer</p>
<p>European health insurance scheme, ophthalmic department, community welfare and Public Health Nurses</p>
<p>At the moment [April 2019] 6 services remaining.</p>
<p>Speech Therapy has moved to Western Road. Psychology moved to Blackpool. Most moved to bigger premises.</p>
<p>Community Welfare moved to department of social welfare about 8 years ago.</p>
<p>Grattan Street at any one time it had about 50 staff, 50 telephone extensions. Work for about 5 years and move on. Turnover of staff. About 150 or move staff have been</p>
<p>Started as the youngest lemon and now is the “elder lemon”</p>
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<p><strong>0.25.50 - 0.27.45</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Duties as the porter</strong></p>
<p>Opening & closing the building. Liaise with maintenance</p>
<p>Male presence for security. What doesn’t come under someone else’s job description he does. Things that could never been written in a job description.</p>
<p>Busy in mornings, quieter in the afternoons. Doing the post.</p>
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<p><strong>0.27.45 - 0.30.55</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Unique Atmosphere of Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Grattan Street has so many disciplines where people interact in a “friendship kind of way”. Big enough to have heart. But not so big that it becomes impersonal. Building itself is 150 years old. Happy story attached to the building wasn’t prison or psychiatric hospital. William Penn who founded Pennsylvania allegedly stayed a night in the building.</p>
<p><strong>Ghost of Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Becky Haughton ghost is supposed to haunt the place. Supposed to see her on the stairs at dusk.</p>
<p>SHEP used to have meetings in Grattan Street at night. They heard a strange noise at night. Masonry had fallen onto filing cabinet in the store.</p>
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<p><strong>0.30.55 - 0.33.16 </strong></p>
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<p><strong>Grattan Street Social life and Changes</strong></p>
<p>Files and vaccination records, nurses dressings kept in the stores. Grattan Street has heart, spirit and character. Happy, friendly building. Party at Christmas. 30 people. A nurse might play the violin, or poetry, or make an alcoholic punch or home baking.</p>
<p>When he came here first was in his 20s and the nurses were in their 30s the nurses were into home baking these days it was more shop bought.</p>
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<p><strong>0.33.16 - 0.34.55</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Stories: Theft and Letters</strong></p>
<p>Dentist in Grattan Street had an expensive “flash” car which was stolen. It had been used in robbery and recovered.</p>
<p>SHEP started in half the canteen</p>
<p>Psychologists were in Grattan Street who were sending two letters to the same address one to each of the</p>
<p>Once broken into and one of the doctors felt it was a reflection on the state of his room when Sean couldn’t tell whether it had been broken into or not.</p>
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<p><strong>0.34.55 - 0.35.20</strong></p>
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<p><strong><span>Podiatrist Appointments</span></strong></p>
<p>No one was turning up for podiatrist appointments. Secretary had forgot to send out appointments.</p>
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<p><strong>0.35.20 - 0.37.44</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Events in Grattan Street</strong> <strong>Medical Centre</strong></p>
<p>Flooding 2013 had to move vaccines. They arrived in small car and they had to do two runs and ploughed there way through 2 and a half feet of water.</p>
<p>Couldn’t stand the smell of perfume. Spray their room with perfume so she wouldn’t come in.</p>
<p>AMO had gotten locked in by mistake by the cleaners. The fire brigade had to get her out with a ladder</p>
<p>European health insurance card. Someone came saying he was annoyed his name was spelled wrong. They could only put 22 characters for the surname and he had 23, his name ended in a double-Z they had dropped a single Z and he accepted their explanation.</p>
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<p><strong>0.37.44 - 0.41.46</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Unusual Incidents in Grattan Street Medical Centre</strong></p>
<p>Bank robbery on North Main Street. Bad was thrown over the back gate. Sean found 2 bags of money. Guards came and replaced them with dummy bags, Roches Stores bags.</p>
<p>Man came into the building trying to steal things. He was confronted and left his mobile and found him through his mother’s number.</p>
<p>Bad weather a few years ago. All the pipes had burst when Sean turned on the boiler. Front portion of the building flooded.</p>
<p>Elderly man in his dressing gown and slippers outside podiatry. He had wandered down from the Mercy.</p>
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<p><strong>0.41.46 - 0.43.01</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Patients Dying in the Building</strong></p>
<p>Two patients came to get their toenails done and they died. He was in his 90s and 5 years later almost to the day another man died and they cleared the building.</p>
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<p><strong>0.43.01 - 0.44.14</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Story of child driving a car</strong></p>
<p>Guy in car waiting for his dad. Spoon stuck in the ignition to start the car. Gone like a rally driver he was no more than 14.</p>
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<p><strong>0.44.14 - 0.44.52</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Birds in Building. Arrives early</strong></p>
<p>2 male blackbirds chased a female blackbird into the building. Arrives half an hour before the staff. Turned off lights and opened the big double doors.</p>
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<p><strong>0.44.52 - 0.47.25</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Story of Heating Failure in Grattan Street & Organisational Error</strong></p>
<p>Heating failed in the building. No heating for about 5 days. 5 different staff phoned 5 seniors in 5 different departments and they all authorised 6 heaters for the building so that 30 heaters arrived. Thirty separate 3 kilowatt heaters were plugged in totalling 900 kilowatts which is far more than the building could take. Awful burning smell came from the waiting area, emanating from the fuse. Sean plugged out all the heaters for safety. In response to this he thinks that: ‘People don’t understand how their decisions interact with others’.</p>
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<p><strong>0.47.25 - 0.49.37</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Poor Maintenance of Grattan Street Building</strong></p>
<p>In 34 years the building has been painted twice, three times at most. Windows are never cleaned. Rent a building in city how much would it cost and what would the maintenance for that be? You’d need to get a new car serviced. Never any more spent on the place. Plan was to install ten new windows a year. After the first ten no more were installed. Attic never insulated. Roof leaks.</p>
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<p><strong>0.49.37 - 0.51.00</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Change to the medical services with close of Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Services are moving out. Shame to lose a public building in the city centre. Every institution needs a city centre presence.</p>
<p>New primary care centre 250 staff. Like wing of CUH. It will be great when it gets going.</p>
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<p><strong>0.51.00 - 0.53.40 </strong></p>
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<p><strong>Quakers, features of the building and staff routine</strong></p>
<p>Understands the Quakers gave building for use by HSE. Would like to see the building used as a city centre museum. People in wheelchairs can access the building without help. Getting a taxi for someone from the building is very fast.</p>
<p>Staff use local supermarket for their coffees.</p>
<p>Sean holds post & letters for the school during summer and Christmas.</p>
<p>The type of bed available from the Community Welfare was very basic back in 1984, it was like an army bed. </p>
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<p><strong>0.53.40 - 0.54.12</strong></p>
<p> </p>
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<p><strong>Podiatry & Diabetes</strong></p>
<p>Couldn’t tell us about nursing. Thinks the podiatrist sees more diabetics these days than previously.</p>
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<p><strong>0.54.12 - 0.55.26</strong></p>
<p> </p>
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<p><strong>Reflection & Outlook on Life</strong></p>
<p>You can “what if” your life away. Married now. 50 when he got married. His 50s are his happiest decade. Everyone needs someone to share their life with.</p>
<p>[interviewer states the year as 2009 but should have said 2019]</p>
<p>Interview Ends</p>
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<strong>Other Interviews in this Collection</strong><br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/240" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00696_O'Regan_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/242" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00704_Collins_2019</a>;<br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/244" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00712_O'Brien_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/245" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00713_Kearney_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/246" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00714_Cunning_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/247" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00717_Ward_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/248" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00727_OhUigin_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/249" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00728_Scanlan_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/250" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00729_Mulcahy_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/251" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00732_Cassidy_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/252" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00760_Morrissy_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/253" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> CFP_SR00762_OConnell_2019</a>;
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2 April 2019
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<p><span>Sean grew up by the Lough in Cork city and spent holidays in Ardmore. Describes his family home and memories of his grandparents. Talks about playing football and the game Red Rover as a child.</span></p>
<p><span>His mother was not allowed to keep her job in the public service once she married, she took up oil painting and cared for her mother.</span></p>
<p><span>Describes his school days and recollects specific teachers. Outlines his engineering education and his emigration to England for work. Lived on Eton High Street and attended Tottenham Hotspur football matches. Influenced by stories of older relatives who regretted remaining in England he decided to return to Ireland.</span></p>
<p><span>Discusses how he began hillwalking as a hobby through photography. Explains what’s involved in leading a hill walk and how he wrote a number of hillwalking guidebooks. Mentions various walking routes in Ireland. Admires France’s rights for walkers, which are more favourable than the situation in Ireland.</span></p>
<p><span>Recalls starting work in Grattan Street medical centre and the various disciplines that operated there over the years. Discusses his duties as porter. Talks about the happy history of the medical centre building including its Quaker origins.</span></p>
<p><span>Remembers social events with fellow Grattan Street staff including Christmas parties. Mentions memorable events and incidents in Grattan Street including the floods of 2013.</span></p>
Admin
Administration
Adrmore
Ardmore
Atmosphere
Aunts
Baking
Ballincollig
Ballincollig Regional Park
Ballyphehane
Bedroom
Bishopstown
Bon Secours Hospital
Bons
Book
Books
Bread
Brothers
Building
Building Maintenance
Buildings
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Camera
Car Theft
Career
Career Choice
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Career Options
Childhood
Childhood Games
Children
Children’s Games
Class
Clothes
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Coláiste Spioraid Naoimh
Colleagues
Community Welfare
Community Welfare Officer
Cork
Course
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Crime
CSN
Death
Decision Making
Decisions
Disrepair
Duties
Dying
Elderly
Emigrant
Emigrant Experience
Emigration
Engineering
England
Family
Family Life
Floods
Food
Football
France
Free Time
Games
ghost
Ghosts
Gift
Gifts
Grandfather
Grandmother
Grandparents
Health
Health Centre
Health Services
Healthcare
Heating
Hill
Hill Walk
Hill Walking Club
Hills
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Hillwalking Guide
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Holidays
Home
House
HSE
Independent
Ireland
Irish Language
Knitting
Latin
Leaving Cert
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Liverpool
London
Lough
Mahon
Maintenance
Mardyke
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Mass
Mercy Hospital
Middle Parish
Mother
Mountain
Mountain Ranges
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North Main Street
Northside
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Outdoors
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Patient
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Photographs
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Playing
Porter
Pres
Present
Presentation Brothers
Presents
Public Amenities
Publish
Publishing
Quakers
Redemption Road
Responsibility
Role of Women
School
School Days
Schooldays
Science
Scool
Siblings
Social Media
Solitude
Sport
St Joseph’s School
Staff
Stories
Taxi
Taxis
Teacher
Teachers
The Lough
The Marsh
Training
Uncles
Vaccination
Vaccines
Walk
Walking
Women
Women in Work
Work
Working life
Worklife
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<p>Grattan Street Stories: Memory of Place</p>
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Occupational Lore; Life History; Built Heritage; Health; Ireland; Cork; Middle Parish
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<p>This collection focuses on a building on Grattan Street which has served as a Quaker Meeting House, a public Dispensary and as the Grattan Street Health Centre. The project was a collaboration between the CFP and the Cork North Community Work Department, Cork Kerry Community Healthcare, Health Services Executive HSE. </p>
<p>The interviewees fall into two main groups: those who worked in the building and those who lived in the surrounding area and availed of the services provided in the building.</p>
<p>This project follows on from the collaboration with the HSE in the “<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>”. There is a further connection between the two projects as many of the staff and services once provided in the Grattan Street Health Centre have now relocated to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. This topic of the relocation of services is also covered in some staff interviews. <br /><br />To date (October 2021) 13 interviews have been completed for the project.<br /><br />Interviewees discuss the Grattan Street building itself in terms of its historic significance, its benefits and drawbacks as a workplace. Broader themes related to or inspired by the building are also touched on including: personal relationship with the building, staff camaraderie, the problems with parking, memorable incidents at work, patient experiences and descriptions of the people and services for which the building catered.<br /><br />Healthcare professional interviewees detail their training, career progression and comparisons between Grattan Street and other workplaces. Their testimonies also provide a link with the community of patients they served giving further insight into attitudes to healthcare, diseases, vaccines, description of social conditions and the changes in medicine and technology in their working lives.<br /><br />Non-healthcare professional interviewees describe childhood experiences in or around Grattan Street (The Marsh or The Middle Parish), the social, cultural and economic conditions of the area, tenements, businesses, attitudes to and experiences of healthcare, vaccines, diseases, medicines and medical professionals as well as observed changes in these areas over time.<br /><br />Interviewees also reflect on the possible future uses of the Grattan Street building.<br /><br /><strong>Related Reference Sources</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Barrington, R.<em> (</em>1987) <em>Health, medicine and politics in Ireland, 1900–1970</em>. Dublin: Institute of Public Administration.</li>
<li><span>Butler D.M. (2004) <em>The Quaker meeting houses of Ireland</em></span>. Dublin : Irish Friends Historical Committee.</li>
<li><span>Byrne, J. (2004) <em>Byrne's dictionary of Irish local history.</em> Cork: Mercier Press.</span></li>
<li>Cooke, R. T. (1999) <em>My Home by the Lee</em>. Irish Millennium Publications: Cork.</li>
<li><span>Dempsey, P. J. & White, L. W. ‘Childers, Erskine Hamilton’. <em>Dictionary of Irish Biography</em> </span>[Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Harrison, R.S. (1991) <em>Cork City Quakers 1655-1939: A Brief History</em>. Cork.</li>
<li>Houston, M. (2004). ‘Life before the GP’. <em>The</em> <em>Irish Times. </em>Available at : <<a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599">https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599</a> > [Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Keohane, F. (2020) <em>The Buildings of Ireland Cork City and County</em>. New Haven and London: Yale University Press.</li>
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2019-2020
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<p>Interviewees: Edith O’Regan, 'Mary', Sean Higgisson, Aoife O’Brien, Eileen Kearney, Imelda Cunning, Jane Ward, Liam Ó hUigín, Joe Scanlan, Mary Mulcahy, Philomena Cassidy, Don Morrissy, Derek O’Connell</p>
<p>Interviewer: <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a>, (<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a>)</p>
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<p>Cork, Ireland 1940s-2020s; Waterford, Ireland; Dublin, Ireland; Limerick, Ireland;</p>
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<p><strong>Exhibition</strong></p>
<p>Artist Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave (also an interviewee for the project) created a visual artwork based around the Grattan Street Medical Centre building itself, as a workplace and health centre. The artwork incorporated direct quotations from the oral history interviews conducted for the project, and also included brief historical paragraphs about the building researched, written and edited by the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy. This exhibition was launched on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 in “St Peter’s” on the North Main Street where a “Listening Event” was also held to mark the occasion.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:10%;"><br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" alt="Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" /><br /><br /></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:10%;"></p>
<p><strong>Presentation and Listening Event</strong></p>
<p>To coincide with the launch of the Grattan Street Stories Exhibtion on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 a listening event and presentation of the history of the Grattan Street Medical Centre building and description of the project was given by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/427A7714-1.jpg" alt="427A7714-1.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Presentation</strong></p>
<p>In 2019 at the OHNI conference the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy discussed social media and oral history which included audio excerpts from the Grattan Street Stories Project along with photographs of the building.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" alt="Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Audio Visual Presentation</strong></p>
<p>An audio-visual slideshow was produced featuring oral testimony from the Grattan Street Stories Project and combined with suitable images of Grattan Street and from Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave’s exhibition. This was created by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:10%;"><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></p>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnjEtQeOb3I&t=1s&ab_channel=CorkFolklore" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audio Visual Presentation Available to listen and view here.</a>
<p><strong>Health and Vaccines Oral History Research<br /></strong><br />Many of the interviews conducted for the Grattan Street project formed an integral part of the testimonies and research for the innovative<br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">'Catching Stories'<span> </span>of infectious disease in Ireland </a>project funded by the Irish Research Council.<br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" alt="Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" /></a></p>
<strong>Social Media</strong> <br /><br />Numerous suitable audio excerpts from the oral history interviews have been edited and shared on CFP's social media channels.<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736</a>
<strong>Orthopaedic Hospital</strong><br />Cork Folklore Project in collaboration with the HSE conducted an oral history project focussing on the Orthapaedic Hospital in Gurranabraher. <br /><br /><span>Many of the staff and services once provided at the Grattan Street Health Centre site were moved to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. </span><br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>
<strong>Swimming Article</strong><br /><br />Kieran Murphy and James Furey co-authored an article about<br /><a href="https://tripeanddrisheen.substack.com/p/swim-city?s=r" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Swimming in Cork</a> which appeared in the online magazine Tripe + Drisheen. This article features a number of interview extracts collected as part of the Grattan Street Stories Project.
<strong>Related Interviews<br /><br /></strong>CFP_SR00756_Quilligan_2019;<br />CFP_SR00758_Broderick_2019;<br />CFP_SR00670_OShea_2018;<strong><br /><br /></strong>
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project
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Liam Ó hUigín
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Kieran Murphy
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59 Minutes 41 Seconds
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Ballyphehane
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.wav
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<p><strong>0.00.00 - 0.00.31</strong></p>
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<p>intro</p>
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<p><strong>0.00.31 - 0.02.55</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Memories of Grattan Street and surrounding area Shops and Buildings</strong></p>
<p>Grattan Street was a busy street with many businesses. Most important was the fire brigade. When the new St Francis Church was being built (Broad Lane church as it was called by people in the Middle Parish) the fire brigade amalgamated with Sullivan’s Quay and the priest of Old Broad Lane church moved into the old fire brigade building while new church was being built.</p>
<p>Children missed the excitement of the fire brigade.</p>
<p>Very vibrant street. 6 pubs: Kellehers, Crosses, Landers, Carrols (later called the Tostal Inn), Ramble Inn (owned by Mrs Brick) two Murphys public houses near Broad Lane which runs from Grattan Street to North Main Street.</p>
<p>Shops and sweet Shops: The Rodisses, The People’s Dairy, The M Laundries, 2 Gents Hairdressing Saloons (called barber shops): Leahy’s and Keanes. Where the Community Centre is now was called Mechanics Hall, because the mechanics had a union and meetings there. Later it was known as Matt Talbot Hall.</p>
<p>There were lots of tenement houses in the area.</p>
<p>[Liam’s phone rings.] </p>
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<p><strong>0.03.06 - 0.05:04</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Tenement Houses, Lanes, playing in Graveyard</strong></p>
<p>Where Patrick Hanely Buildings are now there were tenement houses. Liam only barely remembers them as they were being demolished in the late 1940s and early 1950s. They were derelict sites for a while, which was his playground.</p>
<p>St Peter’s Cemetery down Peter Church Lane, playing among the headstones, and hiding or planking cigarettes.</p>
<p>Shops: Manning’s Shops at corner of Henry Street and Grattan Street, Mrs Mullins at corner of Coleman’s Lane. From Coleman’s Lane to Adelaide Street there were 4 or 5 houses there with 4 or 5 families in each house. Remembers Shinkwin? Family, the Dineens. When they moved out they went to Gurranabraher, Ballyphehane and the suburbs in Ballincollig.</p>
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<p><strong>0.05:04 - 0.06.56</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Childhood Games and Activities</strong></p>
<p>Very little Traffic on the roads at the time. Liam was living in Henry Street round the corner from Grattan Street. Recalls soccer matches from one end of the street to the other and wouldn’t see a car. Friends who came from Blarney Street or Barrack Street couldn’t understand why the streets were so wide and loved it for a game of football.</p>
<p>If a woman with a pram approached while they were playing football they would pick up the ball or if they played near the Mercy Hospital they knew that they should keep quiet without anyone telling them and Liam thinks that has changed today.</p>
<p>Many of his friends live in Grattan Street and everyone was a happy family until there was a row and they had a battering match with “stones down the quarry”.</p>
<p>They used to swim by the Mercy Hospital by the ladder. And then on to ‘the pipe’ up the Lee Fields and then the weir and every second day they had the Lee Baths one day for boys one for girls. Today it’s mixed. </p>
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<p><strong>0.06.56 - 0.11.32</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Poverty-Buying on Credit and using Pawn Shops</strong></p>
<p>Could get messages or shopping on tick or on credit. Milk, bread, quarter (pound) of cheese. There was no bottle of milk you had to bring in your own jug. If you ran out of money the shopkeeper would write it into a book and at the end of the week you could pay it off. A few people could afford not to be ‘on tick’.</p>
<p>There were a few pawn shops on the North Main Street one near north Gate Bridge Jones, another across from Coleman’s Lane called Twomeys. There may have been more. There was one at the bottom of Shandon street owned by Jones as well.</p>
<p>There were 18 or 19 pawn shops around the city one at bottom of Patrick’s Hill, one by fire brigade station on Sullivan’s Quay, two on Barrack Street.</p>
<p>People would pawn clothes. Tradesmen would pawn trowels on Monday morning. Often for drink/ alcohol. Wives would pawn husband’s suit and take it back the following Saturday for going to mass. Nearly everyone used the pawn it was the forerunner to the Credit Union.</p>
<p>If you pawned a pair of shoes for 10 shillings, you got a docket and you had to pay 11 shillings to get it back.</p>
<p>Wives would be stressed making sure they could get the husband’s suit back in time for mass.</p>
<p>It was a thriving business. If you didn’t claim your pawned items after a certain period it was put for sale in the window.</p>
<p>Some people would pawn things openly. Other people would hide it under a shawl, or pretend to be pawning something for someone else. People felt ashamed. Almost everyone was scraping a living.</p>
<p>Even some shopkeepers looked after people who may not have had enough to pay at the end of the week.</p>
<p>At Christmas the shopkeeper would give you a present of a Christmas Cake or Christmas Candle depending on what type of customer you were. </p>
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<p><strong>0.11.32 - 0.13.02</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Work, Pawns, Showing off Wealth</strong></p>
<p>Liam doesn’t remember what or whether his family pawned. Liam’s dad was a docker which was paid on a daily basis and his mother was shrewd enough to put away some money every day. He knew that relations of his pawned things though.</p>
<p>Bracelets, wedding ring, engagement ring, rarely a watch very few people had watches.</p>
<p>Liam knew someone who went to work in Dagenham and he came back a Dagenham Yank with a different accent “a twang” and a watch. He walked into centre of Henry Street, pulled up his sleeve and pretended to be winging his watch while looking at Shandon clock tower just to show off his watch. </p>
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<p><strong>0.13.02 - 0.13.46</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Telephone</strong></p>
<p>Phones were also very scarce. One shop in Henry Street had a phone and there was a queue there for people wanting to use it. There was another phone booth by Vincent’s Bridge coming down Sunday’s Well. Liam remembers playing there and being afraid to go in to answer the phone.</p>
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<p><strong>0.13.46 - 0.18.37</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Tenement conditions, Emigrants, Social Comparison, Fuel Poverty</strong></p>
<p>Laneways around there: Philip’s Lane from Grattan Street to North Main Street. Skiddy’s Castle from Grattan Street to North Main Street. Coleman’s Lane, Peter Church Lane (now Avenue), Broad Lane (at the back of the church), all on to North Main Street from Grattan Street.</p>
<p>Conditions were basic looking back with an outdoor toilet. One family on Henry Street had ten families with one cold tap in back yard and one toilet between them. They had to clean out every morning and bring an enamel bucket upstairs every morning.</p>
<p>Had an inferiority complex about relations coming home from England. The relatives would be dressed up in finery but later Liam discovered they were also badly off but made the effort when coming home.</p>
<p>The story of someone’s uncle who came back from America after 40 years and the family had moved out to the suburbs and they had a barbeque. And the uncle used the toilet inside the house. He said he used to eat inside and the toilet was outside and now it is reversed!</p>
<p>They used newspaper instead of toilet paper.</p>
<p>Turf and timber blocks for fuel for heating which father got going out the Straight Road.</p>
<p>Some people got a voucher for a peck of coal which might only be a large shovel full. Some families got vouchers for free shoes like in the shop Furlongs in South Main Street (owner may have been lord mayor later) Liam wasn’t sure where the vouchers came from- maybe the Health Board. Doesn’t think there was any child benefit. Maybe the Sick Poor would provide the vouchers. They would visit people and the people would try to hide that they were calling. </p>
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<p><strong>0.18.37 - 0.22.42</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Cooking, Bathing, Hygiene and Medicines</strong></p>
<p>No cooking facilities only the fire. Mother would cook pot of potatoes on the fire and then transfer to the hob.</p>
<p>1948 no electricity in Henry Street at the time.</p>
<p>When they got gas in mother told him not to leave kitchen door open to hide it from Liam’s grandmother who lived upstairs and was the real tenant. It wasn’t an oven it was a thing on a stand with two rings on it. Older people were afraid of being gassed.</p>
<p>Saturday night the galvanised bath was put in front of fire with hot water and washed, and if you were the last person in the bath the water would be dirty. And then the children were lined up against the wall to get a weekly does of cod liver oil, or Brutlax, California syrup of figs, Senna? All because of worms. Some newspaper put on the table and hair combed with fine tooth comb to get rid of lice- it was an ordeal.</p>
<p>Brutlax was like chocolate but a laxative.</p>
<p>Milk of magnesia used as well. Given those every Saturday night to prevent you getting sick. Some of them had a terrible taste.</p>
<p><span>If someone got sick taken to the dispensary. </span></p>
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<p><strong>0.22.42 - 0.24.12</strong></p>
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<p><strong><span>Children’s Games Different for boys and girls</span></strong></p>
<p><span>Spent much time in the derelict site where Patrick Hanley Buildings are now, used to connect to Cove street. They had battering matches with stones and they were going to the Mercy Hospital 4 or 5 times a week. They used to play chasing hiding from the nuns around the Mercy Hospital.</span></p>
<p><span>Could bring a spinning top and hit is with a whip up and down the road without fear of traffic.</span></p>
<p><span>Girls would tie a rope to a pole and swing around it and skipping as well. </span></p>
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<p><strong>0.24.12 - 0.31.57</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Food, traditions, routines. Lunch at Work</strong></p>
<p>Porridge for breakfast which you eat if you were given. His grandchildren now have a choice of 5 cereals. Goodie- bread and milk mixed maybe with sugar sprinkled on it.</p>
<p>Some shops on North Main Street like Simcox or Currans Bakery you could get bread wrapped in soft tissue paper which was kept in a drawer at home for when visitors came to use for the toilet because it was better than newspaper.</p>
<p>Potatoes and cabbage. Father loved pigs meat: pig’s heat, backbone, pig’s tail, crubeens. Liam still loves a crubeen except for the trouble of cooking of it, and it’s messy to eat.</p>
<p>Mother was reared around Vicar Street. Barrack Street, Blarney Street, Shandon Street: that’s the way people lived because there was little Gurranabraher built and Ballyphehane wasn’t built yet.</p>
<p>Tripe and drisheen is still a favourite, can get from Reilly’s in the market. Tripe cut into little pieces, with cornflower, onions, “white sauce”, drisheen put in later. Tripe and drisheen would be weekly. Liam loved the pig’s tongue because it was lean. Set day for each food.</p>
<p>Liam’s dad was a docker and he would cut the ear off the pig’s head, put it in a sandwich with bread and butter, wrap in newspaper and that was his lunch. He wasn’t the only one.</p>
<p>Thinks tripe is from sheep’s stomach. Blood in the drisheen.</p>
<p>Connie Dodgers for Lent allowed one meal and two collations. Con Lucey said you could have a biscuit with a cup of tea as a collation. Liam thinks it was Larry McCarthy’s bakery that made a biscuit twice as big as the normal one.</p>
<p>For Lent had to fast every Friday and couldn’t eat meat, except for people of a certain age.</p>
<p>Religion was a big thing for people at the time.</p>
<p>Lent didn’t bother Liam’s dad.</p>
<p>Dockers worked hard. Where Elysian Tower is now, where the Eglinton Baths were Liam went with his mother and a bowl of soup and bread and butter and a tea towel over it. The dockers sat on the kerb eating their soup and sandwiches and they were all black with dirt no washing of hands.</p>
<p>All the work was shovelling coal, Liam worked there for 2 days and had enough of it- nearly wanted a small shovel to fill the shovel he had. His dad was small but very wiry and strong. “They were marvellous people”</p>
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<p><strong>0.31.57- 0.37.05</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Pastimes, Shops and Opening Hours </strong></p>
<p>Dad spent time in the pub maybe too much. People listened to the radio or sat in front of the fire reading the newspaper. Some people with go hunting or play football or hurling.</p>
<p>Liam plays golf now but at the time it was only for the elite doctors and solicitors. Liam’s dad never stood inside a golf club.</p>
<p>Liam was 10 when his mother died she would offer him tripe and drisheen or a creamy cake for dinner and he would choose the cake.</p>
<p>The corner shops are gone now because of the supermarkets.</p>
<p>Corner shops on Henry Street were: Bode’s?, Mannings, Horrigan’s, Dermot’s on Adelaide Street. Dermot’s was first all-night shop in the city- wouldn’t be there during the day. Open from 8pm to 8am. A salesman in coca cola told Liam that Dermot lived on Pope’s Quay and owned a Morris Minor car and he drove it to Adelaide Street 7 days a week and the car was ten years old and there wasn’t 5,000 miles on it because that was all the driving he did.</p>
<p>In Ballypheane Liam sees people carrying lots of bags after shopping in Aldi on Tory Top Road. Liam remembers going to Dermot’s for quarter pound of cheese (3 or 4 slices), half pound of tea, 2 eggs, there were no fridges so you bought and you ate them there was little storage. Dermot would put greaseproof paper over the blade and cut perfectly a few slices of cheese which had come from a timber box. Girls were interested in the box for making cots for dolls. There was no variety of cheese available just the one block. Sugar was available in quarter pounds rather than big bags. Men coming home from the pub would be sent back out to get a box of cocoa or milk from Dermot’s.</p>
<p>There was no one on the street after 12 o’clock unlike today when there’s lots of people around after nightclubs. </p>
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<p><strong>0.37.05 - 0.39.00</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Death of Mother and Family Living Arrangements</strong></p>
<p>When Liam’s mom died his aunt who had 6 children moved upstairs from Liam. She has 5 daughters and 1 son and the son died of meningitis at 4 years old. Liam’s grandfather was dead. Aunt moved to grandmother in Vicar Street to look after her. Liam was going to school in Mardyke, father’s place during the day, went to grandmother’s in Vicar Street for food and washing and then back to the Marsh to sleep. He skipped school for almost 3 months (‘on the lang’) until the school wrote to his dad, who gave him a lecture. He was nearly 14 then and on the verge of leaving school anyway. </p>
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<p><strong>0.39.00 - 0.44.13</strong></p>
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<p><strong>The Dispensary now Grattan Street Health Centre, Tinsmith and Nurse</strong></p>
<p>Lots of cases of meningitis. Everyone in Cork used to go to the Dispensary. Everyone now in their 70s seems to remember Dr Cagney. He would give a bottle of coloured water. If you forgot your bottle you had to go to Mr Gamble the tinsmith in Grattan Street. He made ponnies, gallons, billycans. But when plastic came in there was no need for tinsmiths.</p>
<p>Remembers getting injection or vaccination from Dr Cagney, thinks it may have been for smallpox but is not sure. He dreaded the needles for the syringes which were “like six-inch nails”.</p>
<p>You went through a gate, into a yard and there were steps leading up to the entrance. A grey-haired woman maybe called Mrs O’Keefe. There were benches like in a church. There were hatches. You queued up for the doctor. And the hatches gave you the medicine.</p>
<p>Other place for illness was Mercy Hospital.</p>
<p>Recalls a midwife Nurse Anthony who called to people’s houses. Liam thought when younger than it was the midwife who brought babies on her bicycle. Aunt lived on Thomas Street (a continuation of Peter’s Street) to the back entrance of the Mercy Hospital where the “dead house” was where Liam’s mother was laid out. Remembers the Quirkes and the Horgans, Glandons?, McCarthys living there too and they all moved out when Mercy took over the whole block.</p>
<p>Liam doesn’t remember playing around inside the Dispensary.</p>
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<p><strong>0.44.13 - 0.45.35</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Making vs Buying Lunch</strong></p>
<p>People who worked in Dispensary didn’t live in area. Doesn’t think people make lunches for work anymore. In modern day people go to shops like Spar for sandwiches and rolls. Wives/mothers used to make “lunches for them in the morning” for children who were working and there was a can with milk, tea and sugar.</p>
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<p><strong>0.45.35 - 0.46.14</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Families Living in Dispensary Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Thinks Mrs O’Keefe was only working there, possibly the cleaner. Mrs O’Keefe may not have been her name. Liam doesn’t think they were charging people in the dispensary.</p>
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<p><strong>0.46.14 - 0.50.55</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Attitude to health, Pubs, Fights, Market Gardens, Childhood Mischief</strong></p>
<p>There was no such thing as being left on a trolley. The Mercy hospital was the only hospital Liam knew, and every child in the Marsh went there at least once after a fall, hit with a stone on the head, a few stitches. Although, Liam’s aunt lost a son to meningitis. Didn’t have the medicines we have today.</p>
<p>They were simple times but he doesn’t remember going hungry ever.</p>
<p>Lots of pubs on Grattan Street and people were spending lots of time and money which put a burden on the family. Saturday night on Grattan Street there would usually be a fight, stripped to the waist.</p>
<p>Bonfire night used to be a great night but no longer.</p>
<p>No awareness of mental health. Called the Lee Road the Madhouse Road. First coloured person Liam ever saw was on Sheares Street and when they saw him they called him “Johnny the Black” and they got a chase.</p>
<p>A chase was very important for children at the time. Fisherman on Wise’s Quay near Vincent’s Bridge the children used to throw stones in to frighten the fish away and the fisherman would chase them.</p>
<p>Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday the market gardeners would bring their produce on horse and carts to the Coal Quay and the shopkeepers would come to buy vegetables off them. Liam and the children would steal (“knock off”) some cabbage and carrots. “Oliver Twist was only trotting after us”.</p>
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<p><strong>0.50.55 - 0.51.15</strong></p>
<p> </p>
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<p><strong>Sweets</strong></p>
<p>You’d get a few sweets in Woolworths from the girls who worked there, to prevent them trying to steal them!</p>
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<p><strong>0.51.15 - 0.55.10</strong></p>
<p> </p>
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<p><strong>WW2 Air Raid Shelters in Cork</strong></p>
<p>Three air raid shelters on Sheare’s Street, 2 in Henry Street and maybe a few in Grattan Street, at least one. O’Connell on Sheares Street was in charge of air raid shelter no 3. Fear of being bombed by German’s during World War 2 mass concrete buildings rather than underground. Liam has photograph of an air raid shelter on Patrick Street outside the Victoria Hotel and a photograph of it being knocked down. </p>
<p>The son of the man who had the key to air raid shelter no 3 would rent out the space to old children if it was raining and they wanted to use it to play cards. In the 1940s. he lived at corner of Moore Street and Sheares Street. They were being demolished in 1948 or 1949. Air raid shelter remains inside the door of Elizabeth Fort and there are 2 on the grounds of the South Infirmary (Victoria Hospital), they’ve now been converted to stores. </p>
<p>If you stand at bottom of South Terrace and you look up at “Rock Savage” on top of the hill at the back of the South Infirmary you can see it protruding out.</p>
<p>Liam remembers the LDF became the FCA and that their “top coats” were good as blankets during the winter as you could put your hands into the pockets. Nearly every house had an army coat on the bed.</p>
<p>Everyone was issued with a gas mask, Liam has one from a friend of his. Everyone had to be measured for their gas mask at the city hall or in schools. Liam’s dad wasn’t not in the LDF but his uncle was and it was his coat that was on the bed.</p>
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<p><strong>0.55.10 - 0.59.24</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Grattan Street, Dispensary, surrounding lanes, Terence MacSwiney connection</strong></p>
<p>Grattan Street was busy, vibrant street, always something happening there. Can’t believe seeing the traffic there now.</p>
<p>Liam took a photograph of Prince Charles stopped in traffic outside the plaque to Patrick Hanely Buildings.</p>
<p>The Dispensary was a historical place, there was a time when Grattan Street was a river and Meeting House Lane from North Main Street (at the side of Bradleys) was the entrance to any of the buildings on Grattan Street. Henry Street was known as Penrose Quay.</p>
<p>On Adelaide Street at the back of where Curran’s Restaurant was there was a square called Penrose Square- after the Penrose Family that lived in Tivoli.</p>
<p>If you come down Coleman’s Lane from Grattan Street and enter North Main Street up on the wall there are four plaques for the building where Terence MacSwiney was born. People think he was born in Blackpool because they confuse him with Tomas MacCurtain. Terence married one of the Murphy brewers. Liam is very interested in Terence MacSwiney and loves talking about him, maybe because he comes from the same area in Cork.</p>
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<p><strong>0.59.24 - 0.59.41</strong></p>
<p> </p>
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<p>Outro. Interview Ends.</p>
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<p>Liam Ó hUigín: Grattan Street, Healthcare, The Marsh</p>
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<strong>Other Interviews in this Collection</strong><br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/240" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00696_O'Regan_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/242" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00704_Collins_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/243" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00706_Higgisson_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/244" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00712_O'Brien_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/245" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00713_Kearney_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/246" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00714_Cunning_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/247" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00717_Ward_2019</a>;<br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/249" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00728_Scanlan_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/250" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00729_Mulcahy_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/251" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00732_Cassidy_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/252" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00760_Morrissy_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/253" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> CFP_SR00762_OConnell_2019</a>;
<br /><strong>Other Interviews with Liam in the CFP Archive<br /></strong><br /><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/134" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00422_OhUigin_2012</a>; <br /><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00439_OhUigin_2011</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/67" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00539_OhUigin_2015</a>;
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24 July 2019
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<p><span>Liam grew up on Henry Street in The Marsh and recalls playing football on Grattan Street which was busy and full of activity with businesses, pubs, shops a fire station, barber shops and tenements. He discusses some shops and games in more detail.</span></p>
<p><span>Speaks of the poverty in the Middle Parish which necessitated buying goods on credit and selling clothes and jewellery to pawnshops. Mentions pawn locations. Mentions bringing empty bottles to shops to fill them with milk.</span></p>
<p><span>Discusses the conditions of the tenement houses in the Middle Parish including the sanitation arrangements such as outdoor toilets and the use of newspaper as toilet paper, he also mentions heating issues including timber, turf and coal which was available via a voucher scheme. Further discusses cooking, washing in the tenements including the introduction of gas and electricity. Also mentions medicines for lice and worms administered at home.</span></p>
<p><span>Says that boys and girls played different games separately when he was growing up. Mentions some of these games in more detail.</span></p>
<p><span>Discusses foods (including tripe and drisheen, pig’s tongue, Connie Dodgers) meal routines and the shops where food was purchased. Liam and his mother brought lunch to his father where he worked on the docks.</span></p>
<p><span>Returns to the topic of corner shops and shopping and the types of food available there, further comparing this to supermarkets today.</span></p>
<p><span>Speaks of the death of his mother and the change in living circumstances that this entailed.</span></p>
<p><span>Describes getting a vaccination in the dispensary, what it was like inside and who worked there.</span></p>
<p><span>Mentions fights outside bars at night time.</span></p>
<p><span>Talks about air raid shelters built in Cork city during the Second World War, what they looked like and where they were located.</span></p>
Accommodation
Adelaide Street
Air Raid Shelter
Alcohol
Bakeries
Bakery
Ballypheane
Ballyphehane
Barbers
bars
Bathing
Baths
Billycan
Bonfire Night
Bread
Breakfast
Broad Lane
Buildings
Bullycans
Business
businesses
Buying on Credit
Cagney
Car
Cars
Catholic Devotion
Catholicism
Cemetery
changing technology
Chase
Chemist
Childhood
Childhood Games
Children
Children’s Games
Christmas
Christmas Cake
Church
Churches
Cigarettes
Class
Clothes
Clothing
Coal
Coal Quay
Coleman’s Lane
Community Centre
Connie Dodgers
Cooking
Corner Shop
Corner Shops
Credit
Credit Union
Crubeen
Crubeens
Customer
Customers
Dagenham Yank
Death
Dermot’s Shop
Disease
Diseases
Dispensary
Docker
Dockers
Docks
Dr
Drink
Drisheen
Eglinton Baths
Elizabeth Fort
Elysian Tower
Emigrant
Emigrants
Emigration
Employment
Families
Family
Fast
Fasting
Father
Fighting
Fights
Fire Brigade
Fire Station
Fishermen
Food
Football
Friends
Friendship
Fuel
Fuel Poverty
Gender Roles
Golf
Grandmother
Grattan Street
Grattan Street Health Centre
Grattan Street Medical Centre
Graveyard
Great Coat
Hair Lice
Hairdresser
Hairdressers
Headstones
Health
Heating
Henry Street
Hobbies
Home
Hospital
House
Illness
Illnesses
Jewellery
Lanes
Laneways
LDF
Lee
Lee Baths
Lee Fields
Lent
Lice
Living Arrangements
Local Defence Force
Lunch
Manning’s Shop
Mardyke
Marsh
Mass
Mass-Going
Meal
Meals
Meat
Medication
Medicine
Medicines
Meningitis
Mental Health
Mercy Hospital
Middle Parish
Midwife
Mischief
Money
Mother
North Main Street
Nurse
Nurses
Opening Hours
Outdoor Baths
Outdoor Swimming
Outdoor Toilet
Parents
Pastimes
Patrick Hanley Buildings
Pawn Shops
Pawning
Pawns
Pawnshops
Peter Church Lane
Pharmacist
Pharmacy
Phone
Phones
Planking
Playing
Poverty
Public House
Public Houses
Pubs
Race
Radio
Religion
River Lee
Sandwich
Sanitation
School
Schooldays
Second World War
Shandon
Shandon Bells
Sheares Street
Shoes
Shopkeeper
Shops
Sick
Sickness
Skipping
Skipping School
Slang
Soccer
Social Conditions
South Main Street
Spinning Top
Sport
St Francis Church
St Peter’s
St Peter’s Cemetery
St. Francis Church
Street Games
Streets
Sugar
Sullivan’s Quay
Sweets
Swim
Swimming
Telephone
Telephones
Tenement
tenement houses
Tenements
Terence MacSwiney
The Lee
The Marsh
The Middle Parish
Theft
Tin
Tinsmith
Toilet
Toilets
Tory Top Road
Traditions
Traffic
Tripe
Tripe and Drisheen
Vaccination
vaccine
Vaccines
Vegetables
Vincent’s Bridge
Voucher
Vouchers
Watches
Weir
Winter
Woolworths
Work
Working
World War II
World War Two
WW2
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<p>Grattan Street Stories: Memory of Place</p>
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Occupational Lore; Life History; Built Heritage; Health; Ireland; Cork; Middle Parish
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<p>This collection focuses on a building on Grattan Street which has served as a Quaker Meeting House, a public Dispensary and as the Grattan Street Health Centre. The project was a collaboration between the CFP and the Cork North Community Work Department, Cork Kerry Community Healthcare, Health Services Executive HSE. </p>
<p>The interviewees fall into two main groups: those who worked in the building and those who lived in the surrounding area and availed of the services provided in the building.</p>
<p>This project follows on from the collaboration with the HSE in the “<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>”. There is a further connection between the two projects as many of the staff and services once provided in the Grattan Street Health Centre have now relocated to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. This topic of the relocation of services is also covered in some staff interviews. <br /><br />To date (October 2021) 13 interviews have been completed for the project.<br /><br />Interviewees discuss the Grattan Street building itself in terms of its historic significance, its benefits and drawbacks as a workplace. Broader themes related to or inspired by the building are also touched on including: personal relationship with the building, staff camaraderie, the problems with parking, memorable incidents at work, patient experiences and descriptions of the people and services for which the building catered.<br /><br />Healthcare professional interviewees detail their training, career progression and comparisons between Grattan Street and other workplaces. Their testimonies also provide a link with the community of patients they served giving further insight into attitudes to healthcare, diseases, vaccines, description of social conditions and the changes in medicine and technology in their working lives.<br /><br />Non-healthcare professional interviewees describe childhood experiences in or around Grattan Street (The Marsh or The Middle Parish), the social, cultural and economic conditions of the area, tenements, businesses, attitudes to and experiences of healthcare, vaccines, diseases, medicines and medical professionals as well as observed changes in these areas over time.<br /><br />Interviewees also reflect on the possible future uses of the Grattan Street building.<br /><br /><strong>Related Reference Sources</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Barrington, R.<em> (</em>1987) <em>Health, medicine and politics in Ireland, 1900–1970</em>. Dublin: Institute of Public Administration.</li>
<li><span>Butler D.M. (2004) <em>The Quaker meeting houses of Ireland</em></span>. Dublin : Irish Friends Historical Committee.</li>
<li><span>Byrne, J. (2004) <em>Byrne's dictionary of Irish local history.</em> Cork: Mercier Press.</span></li>
<li>Cooke, R. T. (1999) <em>My Home by the Lee</em>. Irish Millennium Publications: Cork.</li>
<li><span>Dempsey, P. J. & White, L. W. ‘Childers, Erskine Hamilton’. <em>Dictionary of Irish Biography</em> </span>[Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Harrison, R.S. (1991) <em>Cork City Quakers 1655-1939: A Brief History</em>. Cork.</li>
<li>Houston, M. (2004). ‘Life before the GP’. <em>The</em> <em>Irish Times. </em>Available at : <<a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599">https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599</a> > [Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Keohane, F. (2020) <em>The Buildings of Ireland Cork City and County</em>. New Haven and London: Yale University Press.</li>
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<p>Interviewees: Edith O’Regan, 'Mary', Sean Higgisson, Aoife O’Brien, Eileen Kearney, Imelda Cunning, Jane Ward, Liam Ó hUigín, Joe Scanlan, Mary Mulcahy, Philomena Cassidy, Don Morrissy, Derek O’Connell</p>
<p>Interviewer: <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a>, (<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a>)</p>
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<p><strong>Exhibition</strong></p>
<p>Artist Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave (also an interviewee for the project) created a visual artwork based around the Grattan Street Medical Centre building itself, as a workplace and health centre. The artwork incorporated direct quotations from the oral history interviews conducted for the project, and also included brief historical paragraphs about the building researched, written and edited by the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy. This exhibition was launched on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 in “St Peter’s” on the North Main Street where a “Listening Event” was also held to mark the occasion.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:10%;"><br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" alt="Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" /><br /><br /></p>
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<p><strong>Presentation and Listening Event</strong></p>
<p>To coincide with the launch of the Grattan Street Stories Exhibtion on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 a listening event and presentation of the history of the Grattan Street Medical Centre building and description of the project was given by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/427A7714-1.jpg" alt="427A7714-1.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Presentation</strong></p>
<p>In 2019 at the OHNI conference the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy discussed social media and oral history which included audio excerpts from the Grattan Street Stories Project along with photographs of the building.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" alt="Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Audio Visual Presentation</strong></p>
<p>An audio-visual slideshow was produced featuring oral testimony from the Grattan Street Stories Project and combined with suitable images of Grattan Street and from Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave’s exhibition. This was created by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /></p>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnjEtQeOb3I&t=1s&ab_channel=CorkFolklore" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audio Visual Presentation Available to listen and view here.</a>
<p><strong>Health and Vaccines Oral History Research<br /></strong><br />Many of the interviews conducted for the Grattan Street project formed an integral part of the testimonies and research for the innovative<br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">'Catching Stories'<span> </span>of infectious disease in Ireland </a>project funded by the Irish Research Council.<br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" alt="Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" /></a></p>
<strong>Social Media</strong> <br /><br />Numerous suitable audio excerpts from the oral history interviews have been edited and shared on CFP's social media channels.<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736</a>
<strong>Orthopaedic Hospital</strong><br />Cork Folklore Project in collaboration with the HSE conducted an oral history project focussing on the Orthapaedic Hospital in Gurranabraher. <br /><br /><span>Many of the staff and services once provided at the Grattan Street Health Centre site were moved to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. </span><br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>
<strong>Swimming Article</strong><br /><br />Kieran Murphy and James Furey co-authored an article about<br /><a href="https://tripeanddrisheen.substack.com/p/swim-city?s=r" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Swimming in Cork</a> which appeared in the online magazine Tripe + Drisheen. This article features a number of interview extracts collected as part of the Grattan Street Stories Project.
<strong>Related Interviews<br /><br /></strong>CFP_SR00756_Quilligan_2019;<br />CFP_SR00758_Broderick_2019;<br />CFP_SR00670_OShea_2018;<strong><br /><br /></strong>
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Imelda Cunning
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Kieran Murphy
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103 Minutes 3 Seconds
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Grattan Street Medical Centre
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<p><strong>0.00.00 - 0.02.27</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Background and House</strong></p>
<p>Grew up in Bathgate between Edinburgh and Glasgow in Scotland, mom is from Cork. Spent time in Cork as child granny from Greenmount. Great-grand parents lived in James Street. Granny from Barrack Street lived in Whitegate, married to a guard [Garda] from Cavan.</p>
<p>2 sisters and 2 brothers. 3 weeks in Cork, and holiday in October.</p>
<p>Old house and moved to estate where lots of people to play with. Then moved to house on main road where lots of older people.</p>
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<p><strong>0.02.27 - 0.04.23</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Children’s Games</strong></p>
<p>Hide and Seek, chap door run (run away knock), elastics, skipping, marbles, kiss cuddle and torture (boys chased the girls and if you were caught you got to decide between as kiss, cuddle and torture), British Bulldogs (someone always got hurt doing it).</p>
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<p><strong>0.04.23 - 0.14.27</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Memories of Granny (Grand Mother)</strong></p>
<p>Impact on family still, had a saying for everything. Saw funny side of things even though she had a hard life. Getting Imelda to go back to the butchers claiming “those aren’t four lean chump chops”</p>
<p>Freedom of spending time in Whitegate, playing in Trabolgan- archway supposedly haunted by a duke.</p>
<p>Granny’s house was rented, beside the barracks, had four bedrooms. Mattresses for them when they called over.</p>
<p>Granny would cook scones, custard, stews. She played piano and sang. Loved music, had record of James Last.</p>
<p>One of granny’s sayings: “Throw a bit of lipstick on brighten yourself up”</p>
<p>She was small, wore glasses, long-sighted. She was a milliner and dress-maker. Annamae Aherne was a woman from the village who told Imelda her granny had made her first ball gown for her first dance. She did alterations for people. She had a Singer Sewing Machine with a foot pedal. In her 80s granny’s eyesight was going but she would work the foot pedal and Imelda thread the needle and guided it.</p>
<p>Granny crocheted as well.</p>
<p>She had lodgers. Eddie Tucker meteorologist at Roches Point lodged with granny for 25 years. Tony Cotter (meteorologist) lodged there for a while (Silvia was his wife). Headmaster at local school lodged with her for a while.</p>
<p>Liam Cotter walked her dog in the rain and when he returned she had a warm towel ready for the dog not Liam!</p>
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<p><strong>0.14.27 - 0.18.18</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Granny’s House in Whitegate</strong></p>
<p>Scotsman piper as a knocker on her front door. Beautiful view from her front door of the sea across to Cobh. There was a garage next door and she would sit and chat with Gerry O’Connell.</p>
<p>Spent time on Corkbeg beach where the refinery and holding tanks are now. There was a ballroom there. Spent all day on the beach. Dad and granny would bring the stews and potatoes from the house to the beach. Inch beach, even if it was raining.</p>
<p>In and out of the water all day. Inch had good waves to dive into. Cousins there as well. Lanagan cousins from Dublin, Gibson cousins from Leixlip.</p>
<p>She loved Cork because it had better weather than Scotland.</p>
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<p><strong>0.18.18 - 0.22.25</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Stories from her Granny</strong></p>
<p>Granny said she heard a banshee the night before her husband died. Heard a noise at the door and opened it and there was no one there.</p>
<p>Grandfather stationed in Blarney before Whitegate. Thinks her granny “liked to play the field a bit” and had arranged to meet different men and she had to send her sister to meet one and cancel one of the meetings.</p>
<p>Granny’s sister cut off her granny’s long plaited hair. Imelda’s granddad used to cycle from Whitegate to Cavan to see his family and would get as far as Mullingar on the first day.</p>
<p>Great grand parents lived on James Street Mary Ellen and Jeremiah Ahern, buried in Ballyphehane cemetery. Learned about them from great-aunt in Greenmount Buildings off Barrack Street.</p>
<p>Dad was Scottish and had sense of Irishness but his mother didn’t as they left Northern Ireland as Catholics in a predominantly Catholic area.</p>
<p>Imelda’s mom went back and did her “highers” exams the same year Imelda was doing hers.</p>
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<p><strong>0.22.25 - 0.24.50</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Grand-Aunt</strong></p>
<p>Grand-aunt was funny and had funny sayings like “drinking your tears” with laughter. A sideboard was where you kept dishes, condiments, sugar bowl, drawers with cutlery. Dish for the salt rather than salt shaker.</p>
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<p><strong>0.24.50 - 0.31.26</strong></p>
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<p><strong>School</strong></p>
<p>In Scotland: mixed school, state schools, catholic school. St Mary’s primary School Bathgate. Dad’s sister was a teacher and she came to that school when on her placement.</p>
<p>Mistress of the infant school would dye her hair a different colour every week pink and blue. Some of the teachers psychologically unhinged.</p>
<p>Nun who slapped people with a hoover slap and would run her knuckles down pupils’ spines.</p>
<p>There was a mine underneath the school to train the boys how to work in a mine. It had good sports facilities. At Christmas they had a Ceilidh, which Imelda had at her wedding and everyone loved.</p>
<p>She liked English and History. It annoys her that they weren’t taught Scottish history. Says there is a difference between rebellion and uprising.</p>
<p>Very little Irish history on their curriculum in Scotland.</p>
<p>She feels Scottish but has an affiliation with Ireland. She’s been in Ireland over 20 years and doesn’t think she will lose her accent.</p>
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<p><strong>0.31.26 - 0.33.13</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Family Tree</strong></p>
<p>Great grandfather was apparently good with horses and was a coachman in Ballymena House although there is no record of him in the archives. He lived until his nineties. And he was a gardener too. Worked in garden in Ayrshire. Granny didn’t speak about Northern Ireland at all and considered herself Scottish.</p>
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<p><strong>0.33.13 - 0.36.33</strong></p>
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<p><strong><span>Choice of Career and Career Path</span></strong></p>
<p><span>Didn’t know what she wanted to do in school, thought about optics but didn’t like physics. Applied for Podiatry in Edinburgh and Glasgow. Got a place in Glasgow and enjoyed it. Opened a practice in Bathgate, family involved in medicine. Dad was optician, sister dentist and sister optician.</span></p>
<p><span>Moved to Dublin when she was going out with a man from Drogheda and worked in Inchicore and then moved back home when they split up. Got a job with greater Glasgow health board. And worked in Lothian. Shettleston in Glasgow.</span></p>
<p><span>Job came up for diabetic unit in CUH, Dr O’Halloran looking for a podiatrist which she didn’t get but was second on the panel but didn’t understand what that meant. Later a job came up in the community and she took it, back in 1999. </span></p>
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<p><strong>0.36.33 - 0.39.54</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Choosing Podiatry for University & career. Dad’s influence</strong></p>
<p>Had been thinking about different options but couldn’t come up with anything better and felt pressurised to make a choice. Hated Podiatry after the first year as it was mostly revision for her and she was bored. She began to enjoy it in second year when there was more patient interaction and became more challenging.</p>
<p>Her dad had a formula for all the children in school for which subjects they did. He thought that if you have a vocational job that you will always be employed, didn’t want them to be hired by large corporate companies where they could be fired.</p>
<p>Her brother did law, brother is GP, sister dentist, sister optometrist. Thinks her dad was a bit closed to other occupations. It wasn’t bad advice but she won’t be using that approach with her children.</p>
<p>A nephew doing economics and another doing architecture and they love them. Family is all fairly artistic but it wasn’t an option at the time.</p>
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<p><strong>0.39.54 - 0.42.00</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Father’s Optician Practice</strong></p>
<p>Imelda and family worked there. She could write prescriptions for lenses and repair glasses.</p>
<p>Dad worked five days a week and two evenings as well. Didn’t have much time off. He had five kids had to work hard. He retired at 67. Still enjoys his whiskey.</p>
<p>He’s very sociable, people would wait for two hours to go to see him. He would be buzzed for the next patient but he would still be talking to the previous one.</p>
<p>Teachers in her school would know what Imelda was doing because they would have heard from her dad.</p>
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<p><strong>0.42.00- 0.44.15</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Living in Glasgow and College</strong></p>
<p>Loved people from Glasgow who are friendly and warm more so than Edinburgh. 17 when went to college, she had done 6 years in secondary school. Claire, a friend from school, did podiatry as well. But they picked a flat to live which was a “dry area” where no alcohol was served.</p>
<p>Ski club in college. Imelda says if you can ski in Scotland you can ski anywhere because it’s dangerous and icy and with exposed rocks.</p>
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<p><strong>0.44.15 - 0.48.06</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Training </strong></p>
<p>Small college not affiliated with university, and it was a diploma. Not a degree and affiliated with Queen Margaret University in Edinburgh and Caledonia in Glasgow.</p>
<p>On Crookston Road in a prefab where the clinics were. Because it was free everybody came and they could cater for 40 or 50 people. A podiatry school was established in Ireland about 6 years ago (2013) it’s in NUIG Galway University. Cork put in a bid for it but didn’t get it. [Whispers that Cork should’ve gotten it!] thinks that they bought the curriculum and course content from Glasgow.</p>
<p>Glasgow was a small place so you got to know the lecturers well.</p>
<p>Training was 9-5. Over the summer clinical set had to be done over the holidays because patients needed to be seen. 2 or 3 days of lectures and 2 or 3 days of clinics as well.</p>
<p>Lots of hours of clinical training which she thought was good to get the practical experience as podiatry is a job that requires dexterity.</p>
<p>She thinks the focus now in training is more on the background, and that a lot of people graduating now cannot treat a corn because they haven’t been shown properly or haven’t been exposed enough to it. Focus is also now more on wound care.</p>
<p>Focus on wound care in high risk patients means you lose skills in other things like biomechanics and nail surgery.</p>
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<p><strong>0.48.06 - 0.52.38</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Role of Podiatrist</strong></p>
<p>Not about cutting toenails. They do cut toenails if there is something wrong with them. Holistic view of the patient. Look at the patient from the waist down. Biomechanics is the way people walk and the alignment of the joints and muscles. Hen toed and bow-legged. Some things can be corrected if seen early enough.</p>
<p>Most of her patients are older, they are diabetics or have neurovascular disease or other neurological issues which you are not correcting just offloading to prevent ulceration.</p>
<p>Diabetes on the increase and its complications can cause terrible things with feet- ulcers, gangrene etc. Wound care is a big part of what she does. Including removing skin, tissue and bone from wounds.</p>
<p>Focus on wound care may not be what they should be doing. Issues with nail surgery. Hopes it will be sorted when State Registration comes in.</p>
<p>4 staff when Imelda started 20 years ago and there are 6 now. She thinks there should be over 60 now in her Cork area based on the population. There were 96 podiatrists in Glasgow when she worked there. Biggest population in HSE South.</p>
<p>Fighting fire all the time not doing any prevention.</p>
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<p><strong>0.52.38 - 0.57.00</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Typical Client or Patient</strong></p>
<p>All high risk. Greater risk or have had ulceration, infection, amputation, gangrene. Active means they currently have one of those issues. Those with potential to develop problems may have problems with circulation, sensation or underlying medical conditions.</p>
<p>Should be getting the moderate risk people and helping them from developing into</p>
<p>Never-ending ‘like painting the Forth Bridge’. [colloquial expression for an unending task]</p>
<p>Lots of diabetics. Majority of those with foot diseases are vascular because the vascular team doesn’t have a foot team. Mainly over 65s.</p>
<p>But have people under 65 and have a few children too.</p>
<p>Frustrating to only by offering a limited services because of lack of staff.</p>
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<p><strong>0.57.00 - 0.58.28</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Nail surgery</strong></p>
<p>Podiatrists enjoy doing nail surgery. When local anaesthetic issue is cleared up they will have to be retrained in nail surgery in NUIG (National University Galway). Not legal under Irish Medicines Board to use and buy and store anaesthetic. Could use it now if they could get a patient group directive going.</p>
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<p><strong>0.58.28 - 1.01.50</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Podiatry in Glasgow</strong></p>
<p>More of a general podiatry service. More structure in the services. Specialist clinics with pathways. A wider range than in Cork. Range of things that should be seen in Cork but were seen in Glasgow.</p>
<p>Worked with foot care assistant. Did a biomechanics clinic. Did a nail surgery once a month to keep up to speed. Doing the same thing in Cork becomes monotonous and boring a bit of variety is more interesting and challenging.</p>
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<p><strong>1.01.50 - 1.05.26</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Impression of Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Thought it looked like Colditz because of the bars on the windows. Was feeling quite despondent about it. Thought “oh my god what have I done”</p>
<p>Marion O’Donovan founded the podiatry service in 1967 in Greenmount Community Centre.</p>
<p>Imelda had been working in Bishopbriggs in Glasgow seeing 30 patients a day- which was lunacy. Worked with foot care assistant and it was like a conveyer belt. She used a scalpel for the debridement [the removal of damaged tissue or foreign objects from a wound.]</p>
<p>When she started with Marion they had 4 patients in the morning. Marion was very kind to her and didn’t want to scare her by giving her too many patients at the beginning. Told Marion “you could book in a few more!” Marion was very nice and ‘mothered’</p>
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<p><strong>1.05.26 - 1.08.06</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Big Changes of Staff</strong></p>
<p>Speech and language were there and left before Imelda started. Secretarial staff- there has been a huge turnover of staff from Admin support. Aisling who is the current agency staff is great.</p>
<p>Imelda, Marion, Helen, Vicky were in Podiatry. Marion is retired. Helen has been there the longest. Helen does 2 days a week, Vicky does 3 days a week, Imelda does 4 days a week.</p>
<p>PHNs change a lot, AMOs change a lot and admin staff has changed as well. Lots of people coming through Grattan Street and so Imelda knows a lot of people from different areas- a good form of networking. Good that she knows who to contact, especially about patients.</p>
<p>[Phone Rings. Interview Paused]</p>
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<p><strong>1.08.06 - 1.09.31</strong></p>
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<p>[interview restarts]<br /><br /><strong>Dislikes Unsuitable Grattan Street Building</strong></p>
<p>Never thought it was a nice building. Bars on the windows. Hasn’t seen it painted. Money has not been spent on it. It’s a clinical environment which has not been well maintained. Imelda will not be sad when Grattan Street closes. Substandard. Holes in the wall. Will miss the camaraderie.</p>
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<p><strong>1.09.31 - 1.10.42</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Parking in Grattan Street and relations with Colleagues</strong></p>
<p>Parking has been a nightmare. There has nearly been fisticuffs about it. May have to move your car ten times when with a patient. Lucky to have free parking.</p>
<p>On the whole got on well with colleagues, except for a few who were hard to get on with due to odd personalities.</p>
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<p><strong>1.10.42 - 1.12.00</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Patients’ Perspective of Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Imelda tries to get patients to complain about the holes and cracks in walls. People don’t want to complain but they are happy with the service and the people.</p>
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<p><strong>1.12.00 - 1.15.30</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Grattan Street vs a Different Environment St Mary’s</strong></p>
<p>Would like pleasant surroundings for the workplace where people spend so much of their time.</p>
<p>Imelda describes Grattan Street as a kip. 20 years working in that environment is not good.</p>
<p>Hopes that in St Mary’s the services can be expanded. Set up an ad hoc foot care clinic in Mayfield and it was a way of saving HSE money as patients were being prescribed bespoke footwear from GPs which is expensive and may not often be needed. Imelda can insert insoles into stock shoes which helps the patients and saves the HSE money. No shelves have been put in to stock the shoes. </p>
<p>St Mary’s will have a space for storing shoes, there will be a workshop, a state-of-the-art sterilisation room and four clinical rooms. They are also going paperless. They will have a new computer system. This is possible because they are such a small unit. There are 8 filing cabinets in podiatry in Grattan Street and there will not be space in St Mary’s for these. </p>
<p>Hopes that the camaraderie of Grattan Street will continue in St Mary’s, although she has heard the canteen is small and it’s hard to get to the kettle.</p>
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<p><strong>1.15.30 - 1.21.12</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Grattan Street, Attitudes to Migrants and Refugees</strong></p>
<p>Imelda started in Grattan Street in 1999 there had been a brain drain going on in Ireland with people leaving. Since there was no school of podiatry in Ireland they were relying on people from the UK coming to fill positions. One of Imelda’s first patients was very angry that an Irish person couldn’t be found to do her job. She told him not someone as good as she was!</p>
<p>This patient had had a few children who had to leave to get work and he couldn’t understand how Imelda came in and got a job and they weren’t able to. Around this time refugees started to come into Ireland. Imelda was surprised by the racism of the over mainly 65 year old patients and what they thought it was acceptable to say. Imelda thinks it would be worse if she were black. She heard a lot of hatred towards immigrants because so many people had to leave Ireland to get work. Imelda pointed out that Irish people had to be accepted in places that they went to.</p>
<p>People were suspicious of her coming into the country possibly because they weren’t used to people coming into the country. People would say things about immigrants taking “our jobs”. Wouldn’t expect to hear people say that so openly in Glasgow as a much more diverse city.</p>
<p>Imelda doesn’t hear those kinds of comments now.</p>
<p>She thinks that new graduates get a hard time from patients at first, because they are new, younger and it is almost a rite of passage. It can be hard for patients having been used to one clinician to switch to a new one.</p>
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<p><strong>1.21.12 - 1.23.50</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Change in Patients</strong></p>
<p>Imelda knows of a woman from Africa whose foot was put into a fire. She survived but the deformity she has is horrific. [1:22:23 phone rings and Imelda says she has to move her car] Woman was only 13 when this happened to her.</p>
<p>Many similar stories and stories from older people of sexual abuse. Imelda feels ill-equipped to deal with it. If Imelda hears of it she has to report it, but the patients don’t want her to report it and just want to tell her in confidence. They have maybe never spoken to anyone about it before. They tend to open up as they see the same person repeatedly so they build up trust.</p>
<p>[Pause Interview for Imelda to move her Car]</p>
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<p><strong>1.23.50 - 1.25.20</strong></p>
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<p>[Interview Restarts]<strong><br /><br />Helping Patients beyond Podiatry</strong><br />In Imelda’s role she feels she is a bit of a social worker as well.</p>
<p>Refers people to counselling services which are free in North and South Lee. For sexual abuse, deaths etc.</p>
<p>Quite a few patients do take that help but you have to almost make the phone call for them.</p>
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<p><strong>1.25.20 - 1.28.45</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Future of Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Imelda doesn’t know exactly what is happening with Grattan Street but thinks other services are moving in. Thinks work will have to be done on the building if it is to keep functioning for the HSE.</p>
<p>There was bucket in canteen collecting water every time it rained for a years. No one should have to work in an environment like that Imelda thinks.</p>
<p>Imelda just feels that about Grattan Street that she will “close the door” and “put it behind me”.</p>
<p>Hates the canteen and the building thinks it’s horrible, dirty and filthy. Thinks people like it because it’s small and lots of people know each other from having worked there together for a long time.</p>
<p>She thinks that people will miss the people not the building.</p>
<p>The building used to be the Dispensary which provided free healthcare she thinks. Her patients when she started used to tell her that. They told her the doctors were in the dispensary, she thinks it was free health care. They used to come to get medicine.</p>
<p>Quaker meeting house before that, and they left it to the HSE.</p>
<p>Marriage registry is also in Grattan Street but Imelda doesn’t know why anyone would want to get married there- thinks it’s horrendous! Sees people getting married and taking photographs while she is working and has to wait for them to finish.</p>
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<p><strong>1.28.45 - 1.29.15</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Grandmother</strong><br />Grandmother’s name: Eileen Ahern maiden name who became Eileen O’Reily when she married.</p>
<p>“Drinking her tears” grand mother’s saying.</p>
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<p><strong>1.29.15 - 1.32.23</strong></p>
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<p><strong>State of Podiatry in Ireland and the Option of Private Practice</strong><br />Thinks that Grattan Street podiatry is the best podiatry service in the country, maybe outside of Galway because the school is there. Cork was the first place in the country to provide a podiatry service run by the HSE. </p>
<p>Services need to be expanded. They could retain staff if there was more scope- unless someone is interested in wound care they will enter private practice rather than staying in Grattan Street. Imelda has been tempted to enter private practice. Imelda has done private practice as well in the past. Imelda is now a manager and misses being a clinician because she thinks that is what she does best.</p>
<p>There was a podiatrist in Grattan Street while a patient had a cardiac arrest and the podiatrist got an ambulance and he/she was in such a flap and gave the patient’s home address and not the address for Grattan Street! Patient survived thankfully. And Grattan street now has an AED (Automated External Defibrillator).</p>
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<p><strong>1.32.23 - 1.33.10</strong></p>
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<p><strong>What makes a good podiatrist.</strong></p>
<p>Have to be a good people person and be able to do a bit of social work. Have to be versatile. So many diverse different kinds of people come in. You have to adapt and try to relate to them as best you can. Good communication skills.</p>
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<p><strong>1.33.10 - 1.37.21</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Would Imelda choose podiatry again?</strong></p>
<p>Thinks she would but then doubts herself. Has enjoyed being a podiatrist. Doesn’t think there is anything that she would prefer to do.</p>
<p>Podiatry takes a toll on your back partly due to poor posture and not having the correct equipment.</p>
<p>Remembers some of her old patients who were great characters. There was a man who lived across the road and was washed out of his house.</p>
<p>During the flood Imelda was in Neptune inoculating children against swine flu. Fiona Kelly was the secretary at the time and her husband’s car was swept away. People in the houses nearby had to live in a hotel for a while.</p>
<p>One of the patients would call her Miss Imelda and the other clinician Miss Vicky.</p>
<p>Learned that this area was the Middle Parish and funny that her great grandparents were born just up the road in James Street.</p>
<p>[Interviewer does the final outro here but there is another part to the interview which follows]</p>
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<p><strong>1.37.21 - 1.43.03</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Past Diseases and Vaccines</strong></p>
<p>Imelda didn’t see rickets in Cork even though she had seen a lot of it in Glasgow. “every second person who came into you had the wee bandy legs”. Lack of sunshine in Glasgow due to tenements and high rise.</p>
<p>Polio and TB were big in Cork. But TB was a bit comparable to Glasgow. Her dad had TB and her uncle in Dublin had TB as well.</p>
<p>People don’t remember what some of the diseases that can now be vaccinated for were actually like.</p>
<p>Polio can have long term effects such as deformity, muscle wastage, smaller limbs, leg length difference which requires large platform shoes to make up the difference in the leg length. Debilitating diseases so important to get vaccinations as a child. Especially for TB which Cork did not do regularly you had to request it which she did with her own children.</p>
<p>Her dad talks about when he got TB a lot because he missed a year of school due to it. He had to go to an asylum but his siblings didn’t get it.</p>
<p>Imelda still has patients who had polio. Shoe adaptations or splints are needed for them. It is debilitating and unnecessary.</p>
<p>Imelda thinks that some of her colleagues would have a different view to vaccinations than she would have.</p>
<p>Thinks that to encourage people to get vaccinated they could be shown pictures of things that can happen as a result of not getting your child vaccinated. If that’s the choice between a small chance there might be side effect versus an epidemic of children getting polio. It’s no contest.</p>
<p>Some colleagues might have sort of anti-vax [anti-vaccination] views. They may focus on the side-effects but not on the effects of getting the disease. She thinks it’s reasonable to weight up the facts and see that inoculation is safer. Thinks people have their free choice, although points out that there is talk of making it compulsory. Not certain that she agrees with whether it should be made compulsory or not. But thinks that new mothers have not seen any of these diseases and that they need to see them in action to realise that they do not want their children to have the disease.</p>
<p>Doesn’t agree with taking away freedom of choice. Cannot operate as a dictatorship.</p>
<p>[Interview Ends]</p>
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<p><span>Imelda grew up in Bathgate between Edinburgh and Glasgow in Scotland. Her mother was from Cork so Imelda spent time in Whitegate in her youth where she enjoyed the relative freedom she had there playing children’s games and spending time on beaches like Corkbeg and Inch.</span></p>
<p><span>Describes her Cork grandmother Eileen O’Reilly née Ahern who always saw the funny side of things. She was a milliner and dressmaker and took in lodgers, usually meteorologists working at Roches Point. She also claimed to have heard the banshee the night before her husband died. </span></p>
<p><span>Speaks of her humorous grand-aunt who lived in Greenmount and describes her home including the sideboard and salt dish. “Drinking her tears” was one of her sayings.</span></p>
<p><span>Imelda refers to her schooldays in Scotland including corporal punishment administered by nuns. Her school had a mine beneath it to train the boys to work in mines when they were older. Was not sure of her career when she was in school but she came from a medical family. Her father chose their school subjects with a view to them acquiring vocational jobs rather than corporate jobs where they could be fired.</span></p>
<p><span>Discusses her father’s optician practice and how she and her family worked with him there writing prescriptions and repairing glasses. </span></p>
<p><span>Speaks about moving to Glasgow for college, finding the people friendly and accidently living in an alcohol-free part of the city. Enjoyed the college ski club.</span></p>
<p><span>Describes her podiatry clinical experience in Scotland. Explains that podiatry requires dexterity. Podiatrists work on a range of issues including biomechanics, diabetes, gangrene, neurovascular disease, wound care, ulcer prevention and more. Mentions the Irish Medicines Board regulatory issues surrounding podiatry nail surgery in Ireland at the time of interview.</span></p>
<p><span>Explains that the typical podiatry patient in the Grattan Street Medical Centre is usually high risk. States that podiatry services need to be expanded so they deal with more moderate risk patients in order to catch early problems and thus prevent them becoming serious issues.</span></p>
<p><span>Says that her first reaction to the Grattan Street building in 1999 was that it was like Colditz prison because of the bars on the windows. Explains that she does not share other staff’s love of the Grattan Street Building because of this and further criticises the leaky roof, holes in the walls, dirtiness of the canteen, and its general unsuitability as a clinical environment. Imelda encourages patients to complain about the conditions in the building but they don’t wish too as they are satisfied with the service. She has had positive experiences with other staff in spite of the building not because of it. She will miss the people not the building.</span></p>
<p><span>Mentions a patient’s negative opinion of refugees arriving in Ireland in the past, but says that it’s no longer a common opinion.</span></p>
<p><span>Expresses positivity in relation to the move to St. Mary’s Primary Care Centre Gurranbraher. Hopes that the services can be expanding and the workplace will be greatly improved including storage space, a computer system, space for filing cabinets.</span></p>
<p><span>Remembers that her older patients spoke of the dispensary in Grattan Street where they received free medicines and doctors’ appointments. </span></p>
<p><span>Expresses surprise that someone would want to get married in the Grattan Street marriage registry office as she does not like the building.</span></p>
<p><span>Mentions that podiatry work requires you to adapt to people and situations and also negatively affects your back. Speaks of patients telling her things in confidence that go beyond podiatry and her attempts to assist them such as encouraging them to contact counselling services due to sexual abuse and bereavement.</span></p>
<p><span>Recalls some incidents during flooding events while at work.</span></p>
<p><span>Describes how she saw many cases of rickets in Glasgow but none in Cork, while Cork had a higher rate of patients with long-term effects from polio, including the need for shoe adaptations or splints.</span></p>
<p><span>Speaks about vaccines and how to encourage people to take them. Suggests that the success of vaccines in suppressing diseases has meant that many parents haven’t seen any cases of these diseases and thus do not appreciate the risks they pose.</span></p>
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Area Medical Officer
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