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Oral History
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Interviewee
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Frank Steele and John Steele
Interviewer
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Margaret Steele, Robert Galligan Long
Duration
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95m04s
Location
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Dublin Hill, Cork
Transcription
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<p><strong><span>Sample:</span></strong></p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> And it’s not just us, you know. Em i-i-it was the way we went about things. I, I mentioned earlier about the big railway bridge. That was a huge dividing line on the Lower Road.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Above The Bridge and Below The Bridge.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Yeah -- you were either Above The Bridge or Below The Bridge. You were born into one tribe or the other, and there was nothing you could do about it.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>M S</strong> [laughs]</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> And you couldn’t mix.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> You couldn’t, no, no, no. We went to school together, we did -- we were in the Scouts together, but basically you were either Above The Bridge or Below The Bridge, and we went to war with each other, we played games against each other --</p>
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<p><strong>J S</strong> Matches.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> -- we had stone battering [laughs] against each other.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Em I, I remember one time -- and I suppose this now might shock people today, but I remember that there was a very intense Above The Bridge-Below The Bridge war in em -- I forget what summer it was. And I remember we, we captured Gully.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Oh Gully. [laughs]</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> We captured Gully and we tried him. He was from Below The Bridge, and we tried him and naturally we found him guilty and then we decided we’d have to execute him, so we tied him to a pole and we shot him with skeories.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Yeah, do you know the red, the -- what are they, what’s their proper name?</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Eh --</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> The red --</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Hawthorn.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Hawthorn, red hawthorn berries. You know?</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>M S</strong> How did ye shoot him?</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Catapults.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> With a little catapult.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>M S</strong> And would ye have made the catapults yerselves?</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Oh absolutely. Absolutely.</p>
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<p><strong>J S</strong> Ah of course. Yeah. Jeepers.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>M S</strong> How would ye make the catapults? </p>
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<p><strong>J S</strong> You just get a bit of stick --</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> A fork of stick. [laughing]</p>
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<p><strong>J S</strong> A fork of stick and a -- put the, the elastic between it and that was it.</p>
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<p><strong>F S</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>M S</strong> Would --</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> We bought nothing because there was nothing there for us to buy.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Yeah. And there was no money to buy it either.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Everything we made -- No, everything we played with, we made.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Mm.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Like a great place I can remember down was Dwyers.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Yeah, oh that was unbelievable.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Was it Woodhill or something? I, I --</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> It was one of the old merchant houses of Cork, Woodhill Villas.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Yeah, that’s right. But down below it was just a haven for kids.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> There was a football pitch belong to Saint Patricks who we were all involved with.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Then there was a wood, I suppose, well to us twas a wood anyway, probably only a [scart? 15:40] really.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Well I suppose -- originally, I would say it was actually a landscaped garden because -- Remember the place we used call the Fort? The round -- that actually was a lake, a little artificial --</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> That thing -- the roundy -- Yeah. I often wondered what that was.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> -- pond, you know? And I don’t know if you remember but there were a lot of unusual trees.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> There was, yeah, yeah.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> And I, I’d say they were deliberately planted because I forget which of the families lived in the actual big house -- and it was a big house --</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Colossal.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> In our time ‘twas done in flats so to speak, you know? But it was one of the great big houses of Cork that are all down that side of Montenotte on down into em Little Island, on that side of the road, you have one big house after another, you know. So that, that was those grounds. But they, they were absolute heaven.</p>
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<p><strong>J S</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> We would head off about ten in the morning --</p>
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<p><strong>J S</strong> We were always cowboys and Indians.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Yeah, cowboys and Indians. [hiccup]</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> I can remember actually, one thing sticks out in my mind. I was on the opposite one to you, of course.</p>
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<p><strong>F S</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> And whatever anyway, you threw your spear and the spear just went ‘Boom’ [mimes spear hitting him] and I just went -- ‘boom’ --</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> [laughs]</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> But like -- didn’t know about the -- didn’t even think about the thing coming up [gestures to indicate a swelling coming up on his forehead], got up, wanted to kill him straight away.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> [laughs]</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Had to get out me bow and arrow and let him have it. [laughs]</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>M S</strong> How come ye’d end up on opposite sides in games? Just randomly like?</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> That’s just the way it was.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Yeah, well -- Yeah, and --</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Brothers usually separated.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> In things like that, yeah.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> Because like we didn’t think it through but like if we didn’t separate then it could become something else.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>J S</strong> Yeah.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>F S</strong> It could be family A against family B.</p>
<p><strong><span> </span></strong></p>
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Frank Steele and John Steele
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This interview, with two brothers, spans from 1943 to the present. They describe their idyllic childhood on Lower Road in Cork during the ‘50s and ‘60s, local people and community mores, swimming in the river, taking the train to Youghal (Sea Breeze Express) and childhood games and pranks such as Runaway Knock and Thunder up the Alley. They discuss the role of the railway line on the local community, community rivalries and seeing the showbands at the Arcadia. They describe waiting for the animals to arrive when Chipperfields circus came to Cork.
Date
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04.09.2014
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cork folklore project
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CFP_SR00524_steele_2014
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cork folklore project
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cork folklore project
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cork folklore project
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cork folklore project
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English
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Audio/Wav
Above the Bride/Below the Bridge
Arcadia Ballroom
Arcadia bouncer
Back Line
Baldy Green
Black-eye
Dean Sexton’s Boxing Club
Frank Steele
Garda
Gardai
Glasheeen
Hoops
John Steele
Lower Road
Runaway Knock
St Patrick’s School
the Coliseum
the Fisheries
Thunder up the alley
Tivoli
Tivoli Regatta
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<p>Grattan Street Stories: Memory of Place</p>
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Occupational Lore; Life History; Built Heritage; Health; Ireland; Cork; Middle Parish
Description
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<p>This collection focuses on a building on Grattan Street which has served as a Quaker Meeting House, a public Dispensary and as the Grattan Street Health Centre. The project was a collaboration between the CFP and the Cork North Community Work Department, Cork Kerry Community Healthcare, Health Services Executive HSE. </p>
<p>The interviewees fall into two main groups: those who worked in the building and those who lived in the surrounding area and availed of the services provided in the building.</p>
<p>This project follows on from the collaboration with the HSE in the “<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>”. There is a further connection between the two projects as many of the staff and services once provided in the Grattan Street Health Centre have now relocated to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. This topic of the relocation of services is also covered in some staff interviews. <br /><br />To date (October 2021) 13 interviews have been completed for the project.<br /><br />Interviewees discuss the Grattan Street building itself in terms of its historic significance, its benefits and drawbacks as a workplace. Broader themes related to or inspired by the building are also touched on including: personal relationship with the building, staff camaraderie, the problems with parking, memorable incidents at work, patient experiences and descriptions of the people and services for which the building catered.<br /><br />Healthcare professional interviewees detail their training, career progression and comparisons between Grattan Street and other workplaces. Their testimonies also provide a link with the community of patients they served giving further insight into attitudes to healthcare, diseases, vaccines, description of social conditions and the changes in medicine and technology in their working lives.<br /><br />Non-healthcare professional interviewees describe childhood experiences in or around Grattan Street (The Marsh or The Middle Parish), the social, cultural and economic conditions of the area, tenements, businesses, attitudes to and experiences of healthcare, vaccines, diseases, medicines and medical professionals as well as observed changes in these areas over time.<br /><br />Interviewees also reflect on the possible future uses of the Grattan Street building.<br /><br /><strong>Related Reference Sources</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Barrington, R.<em> (</em>1987) <em>Health, medicine and politics in Ireland, 1900–1970</em>. Dublin: Institute of Public Administration.</li>
<li><span>Butler D.M. (2004) <em>The Quaker meeting houses of Ireland</em></span>. Dublin : Irish Friends Historical Committee.</li>
<li><span>Byrne, J. (2004) <em>Byrne's dictionary of Irish local history.</em> Cork: Mercier Press.</span></li>
<li>Cooke, R. T. (1999) <em>My Home by the Lee</em>. Irish Millennium Publications: Cork.</li>
<li><span>Dempsey, P. J. & White, L. W. ‘Childers, Erskine Hamilton’. <em>Dictionary of Irish Biography</em> </span>[Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Harrison, R.S. (1991) <em>Cork City Quakers 1655-1939: A Brief History</em>. Cork.</li>
<li>Houston, M. (2004). ‘Life before the GP’. <em>The</em> <em>Irish Times. </em>Available at : <<a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599">https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599</a> > [Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Keohane, F. (2020) <em>The Buildings of Ireland Cork City and County</em>. New Haven and London: Yale University Press.</li>
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2019-2020
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<p>Interviewees: Edith O’Regan, 'Mary', Sean Higgisson, Aoife O’Brien, Eileen Kearney, Imelda Cunning, Jane Ward, Liam Ó hUigín, Joe Scanlan, Mary Mulcahy, Philomena Cassidy, Don Morrissy, Derek O’Connell</p>
<p>Interviewer: <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a>, (<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a>)</p>
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<p>Cork, Ireland 1940s-2020s; Waterford, Ireland; Dublin, Ireland; Limerick, Ireland;</p>
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<p><strong>Exhibition</strong></p>
<p>Artist Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave (also an interviewee for the project) created a visual artwork based around the Grattan Street Medical Centre building itself, as a workplace and health centre. The artwork incorporated direct quotations from the oral history interviews conducted for the project, and also included brief historical paragraphs about the building researched, written and edited by the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy. This exhibition was launched on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 in “St Peter’s” on the North Main Street where a “Listening Event” was also held to mark the occasion.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:10%;"><br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" alt="Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" /><br /><br /></p>
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<p><strong>Presentation and Listening Event</strong></p>
<p>To coincide with the launch of the Grattan Street Stories Exhibtion on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 a listening event and presentation of the history of the Grattan Street Medical Centre building and description of the project was given by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/427A7714-1.jpg" alt="427A7714-1.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Presentation</strong></p>
<p>In 2019 at the OHNI conference the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy discussed social media and oral history which included audio excerpts from the Grattan Street Stories Project along with photographs of the building.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" alt="Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Audio Visual Presentation</strong></p>
<p>An audio-visual slideshow was produced featuring oral testimony from the Grattan Street Stories Project and combined with suitable images of Grattan Street and from Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave’s exhibition. This was created by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:10%;"><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></p>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnjEtQeOb3I&t=1s&ab_channel=CorkFolklore" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audio Visual Presentation Available to listen and view here.</a>
<p><strong>Health and Vaccines Oral History Research<br /></strong><br />Many of the interviews conducted for the Grattan Street project formed an integral part of the testimonies and research for the innovative<br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">'Catching Stories'<span> </span>of infectious disease in Ireland </a>project funded by the Irish Research Council.<br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" alt="Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" /></a></p>
<strong>Social Media</strong> <br /><br />Numerous suitable audio excerpts from the oral history interviews have been edited and shared on CFP's social media channels.<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736</a>
<strong>Orthopaedic Hospital</strong><br />Cork Folklore Project in collaboration with the HSE conducted an oral history project focussing on the Orthapaedic Hospital in Gurranabraher. <br /><br /><span>Many of the staff and services once provided at the Grattan Street Health Centre site were moved to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. </span><br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>
<strong>Swimming Article</strong><br /><br />Kieran Murphy and James Furey co-authored an article about<br /><a href="https://tripeanddrisheen.substack.com/p/swim-city?s=r" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Swimming in Cork</a> which appeared in the online magazine Tripe + Drisheen. This article features a number of interview extracts collected as part of the Grattan Street Stories Project.
<strong>Related Interviews<br /><br /></strong>CFP_SR00756_Quilligan_2019;<br />CFP_SR00758_Broderick_2019;<br />CFP_SR00670_OShea_2018;<strong><br /><br /></strong>
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project
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English
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Audio
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16 .wav Files
Oral History
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Interviewee
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Joe Scanlan
Interviewer
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Kieran Murphy
Duration
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88 Minutes 55 Seconds
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Middle Parish Community Centre, Grattan Street
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.wav
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24bit / 48kHz
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<p><strong>0.00.00 - 0.00.30</strong></p>
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<p>Intro</p>
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<p><strong>0.00.30 - 0.01.41</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Memories of dispensary and Vaccination</strong></p>
<p>Dispensary was a beautiful looking building especially as it was surrounded by tenements.</p>
<p>Barrett family were caretakers. 6 GPs worked there and remembers 4: Dr Galvin (low-sized woman), Dr Jimmy Young (who played hurling for Cork), Dr Kiely (male), Dr Michael Cagney his family’s GP, delivered him and his brother at home. Waiting room was like church seats. His mother usually brought with him.</p>
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<p><strong>0.01.41 - 0.06.06</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Vaccination in the Dispensary Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Vaccination: his dad brought him. Front door was in Grattan Street. Queue of boys outside. None of the boys who came out looked happy, they all suffered from the fear and pain. Joe was about 8 years old. Instrument doctor had was like a branding iron for cattle or a bolt. The needle was the size of a nail. Dad held his wrist and arm very tight. His dad brought him for ice-cream afterwards.</p>
<p>When he was 12 there was another round of vaccines and he was determined not to take them until he discovered they were like sugar cubes not needles.</p>
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<p><strong>0.06.06 - 0.09.24</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Fleas and Head Lice treatment</strong></p>
<p>Everyone had fleas and headlice, but some of his friends still deny that they had it possibly out of shame. Everyone left their doors open, as they had nothing to rob. Dads got paid on Friday night and there was a small party at the weekend- raspberry and crisps in the pub.</p>
<p>Went to the dispensary to get prescription for head lice.</p>
<p>When mother cut his hair she put it in newspaper and threw it in fire and you could hear fleas and lice banging. “Scabs and bits of hair here and there” You could see dead fleas and lice on the back of other boys collars in school.</p>
<p>DDT “defestor” Mrs Shinnick? Pharmacist gave them a green bottle which smelled. The liquid burned the scalp. Fine tooth comb to get the dead lice out. The smell would last for hours. And in school the following day people would recognise it and know you had had lice.</p>
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<p><strong>Smoking Doctor trying to get him to give up smoking</strong></p>
<p>Dr Jimmy Young (or maybe Dr Cagney) moved to a private clinic on the South Mall. Joe was smoking as a young teenager. If he was caught a neighbour would kick him in the arse before telling his dad. His dad never hit him but would put his hands on his belt which was sufficient threat. Dad brought him to Dr Young to be told how bad smoking was. And while he was telling Joe to give up cigarettes he was smoking a Woodbine cigarette at the time. People smoked everywhere except church.</p>
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<p><strong>0.10.53 - 0.12.07</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Dared to ask Garda for a cigarette</strong></p>
<p>Doesn’t drink or smoke now. Had to take a dare when asked by a friend. Friend dared him to ask a Garda for a cigarette. Garda kicked him in the arse. Walked like John Wayne for a week!</p>
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<p><strong>0.12.07 - 0.15.30</strong></p>
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<p><strong>‘Kick the Bucket’: hypochondriac ‘character’ in Dispensary </strong></p>
<p>A head cold was serious at times. Practically impossible to get a house call from a doctor. So they would be bundled up in sheets like a mummy and transported to the dispensary. Mother saw a man in the waiting room nicknamed “Kick the Bucket” because he was a hypochondriac convinced he was going to die soon.</p>
<p>Joe saw him as he got older and went to the doctor on his own. Kick the Bucket died at 81 and the news spread faster than the fire at the Opera House or Jennings.</p>
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<p><strong>0.15.30 - 0.15.46</strong></p>
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<p><strong>End of Dispensary</strong></p>
<p>After a while doctors got their private surgeries and A&Es accident and Emergencies opened. The dispensary sort of dwindled out.</p>
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<p><strong>0.15.46 - 0.16.42</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Grattan Street injuries Playing as Children</strong></p>
<p>Lots of memories from around Grattan Street area. Born on Devonshire Street near Pat MacDonald Paints, and there was a big population living in the Marsh. More than 100 children playing on the streets around Peter Street and Grattan Street. Alleyways, where car parks are now, there were their soccer pitches. They counted 120 potholes in their soccer pitch, big enough to fall knee deep into. If you fell in you could twist an ankle or break a leg. Friends would lift you out of the way of the pitch but you had to crawl to the Mercy Hospital yourself because the match had to go on.</p>
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<p><strong>0.16.42 - 0.18.59</strong></p>
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<p><strong><span>Battles and fights with rival groups of boys</span></strong></p>
<p><span>Their rivals were the Coal Quay boys. Saturday evening they would raid the Coal Quay for the left over rotten fruit. They had timber palettes set up as a barricade and after 12 o’clock mass on a Sunday the Coal Quay boys would come. (had to go to mass otherwise someone would tell the Presentation Brother or you parents. Joe did miss a few) Battering match would start. Rotten apples. Soggy bananas. Tomatoes were the best. No stones. Whoever ran out of ammunition first you had to run away. 30 guys running down Coleman’s Lane would be easy targets. But the Marsh lads could spread out on Grattan Street. </span></p>
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<p><strong>0.18.59 - 0.24.29</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Halloween skull as Jack O Lantern from Tomb in St Peters</strong></p>
<p>There was no real fighting just wrestling. Maybe some fighting with firsts. No kicking someone in the head. Boxing with community centre against Mitchelstown. Joe couldn’t hit a small boxer and they had to stop the fight.</p>
<p>Around the same time it was Halloween in St Peter’s graveyard all the tombs and headstones were in the centre not along the side. They were able to get into the tombs and went in with a match and were surrounded by bones in the dark. Didn’t need pumpkins they decided they would get a nightlight scandal, buy matches from Mr Barry and get a skull from the tomb and scares girls.</p>
<p>Heard something moving in the tomb one night. His dad was a postman and he had a big torch but Joe could never find it when he wanted it.</p>
<p>Always bring cigarette butts out of the tomb. Used safety pins to get the most out of the cigarette.</p>
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<p><strong>0.24.29 - 0.26.24</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Cigarettes and getting money from empty bottles</strong></p>
<p>8pm in the evening and at 8am the doctors and surgeons left or arrived at the Mercy Hospital, and they could’ve smoked in their offices at the time. Doctors sometimes threw away a cigar butt. Sometimes the children followed a doctor for 10 minutes and he might not throw the butt away! As they got older they went to Mr Barry’s shop and could get 2 fags (cigarettes) and a match for an empty bottle of Lucozade, which they could get from the Mercy Hospital. All the glasses were returnable at the time. They decided to take more bottles. 2 bottles would get you 4p four pence and you could go to the pictures (cinema) for 3p thruppence (three pence) and have money left over for cigarettes and a match. Tanora bottles from Jennings.</p>
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<p><strong>0.26.24 - 0.31.03</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Fishing for Money trouble with the Bailiff</strong></p>
<p>Dermot’s Cake shop on Adelaide street best cakes and creamy milks straight form the cow.</p>
<p>Decided to take up poaching to get some money. Lots of mullet and salmon in the river at the time. Was rarely caught poaching because he could plank (hide) them at home within a few seconds. Sold them to Burns on Douglas Street, the Uptown Grill in MacCurtain Street (which must have lasted 60 years) the woman there said to bring over any more because they’re so fresh the blood is still hot in them! </p>
<p>Mr Hurley the bailiff caught him occasionally and took his fishing rod and reported him to his mother and tell her to send Joe over to collect his fishing rod. He’d ask which rod was his in a room full of confiscated rods. Joe’s was the cheapest “Black Prince” but he’d get a more expensive one. Needed money for cinema and chips. Best two chippers: Hayden’s on Shandon Street and Kiely’s on Maylor Street. Wrapped in newspaper, lots of vinegar and salt. Tastiest part was to squeeze the vinegar out of the newspaper even with the dye running in it.</p>
<p>Slogging apples down the Mardyke selling to woman Dooney Dawney.</p>
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<p><strong>0.31.03 - 0.34.24</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Money & Sweets: Selling fishing Rod & tricking shopkeeper</strong></p>
<p>Sold the rod for money to an angler and bought a cheap rod again. He was a well-known angler on the Lee. Good anglers and fairly good anglers but luck plays a big part. Ahern sisters owned a shop a Sheare Street (Sheares Street). Penny bars and sweets ‘blackjack’, ‘cough no more’, ‘macaroon’ (Erinmore tobacco). Asked for penny bar that was up high so she would have to climb up and they would take a bar from the lower shelf. They once took it in turns to ask how much a bar was even thought they were all a penny and she eventually banned them all for life from the shop. It took them a year or two to get back on good terms. </p>
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<p><strong>0.34.24- 0.35.55</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Safety of City in Past, Making floats for fishing, Social & Income Inequality</strong></p>
<p>Never any trouble when growing up. Joe’s 2<sup>nd</sup> eldest son is 38 lives on Northside, daughter on the southside and eldest son still lives in the Marsh. His children would say the Marsh was a great place to rear children.</p>
<p>Where the Woolshed Bar [on Sheares Street] is now used to be Woodford Bournes the wine makers. And on the corner Paddy worked the guillotine to make ‘the corkies’ corks for the wine bottles for Woodford Bournes. Joe’s dad was a friend of Paddy & “they used have a drink together”. Joe would go to Paddy for bits of cork to make floats for fishing. He would bore a hole through the cork for the fishing line. “so we got everything for nothing”. Even got clothes from Coal Quay for very little. Some of his friends deny that they ever wore clothes from the Coal Quay. Joe thinks there was no in between either you were rich or you were poor.</p>
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<p><strong>0.35.55 - 0.36.45</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Story of Man with nothing worth stealing</strong></p>
<p>Remembers old man second-next-door-neighbour and there was someone prowling around his house. He had nothing worth stealing only a transistor radio which everyone had so there was no one to sell it to. This neighbour shouted out “come on in if you want something. I have nothing and you’re welcome to half of that!”</p>
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<p><strong>0.36.45 - 0.38.50</strong></p>
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<p><strong>The Marsh today: Families vs Students</strong></p>
<p>Joe’s son Michael would still love to raise his children in the Marsh area, even with the volume of traffic.</p>
<p>Joe thinks the Grattan Street area cannot take anymore offices or traffic. He says that the HSE have many of the buildings.</p>
<p>Joe is lucky as he owns his own house. Married a Coal Quay girl Breda Dineen.</p>
<p>There are plans to build student accommodation with 350 rooms on Grattan Street where the Munster Furniture and Hardware was. Joe says he will sell up and leave the parish if that is built. It will break his heart to do it but he can’t put up with any more.</p>
<p>Talks about Edel House being discussed on the radio. And thinks there were a lot of “undesirables” in there. In recent times they were warned to behave themselves on the streets and Joe thinks that they do. He thinks that as well as genuine cases there are people looking for houses.</p>
<p>Joe would like the HSE to take some buildings further out in areas like Montenotte, Model Farm Road and the Lee Road. He thinks that people who work for the HSE live in these places so won’t choose them for buildings to provide services. As a result buildings and services are put in the city centre.</p>
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<p><strong>Shawlies and booming trade on Coal Quay</strong></p>
<p>South Main Street, Castle Street, North Main Street when he was a child was booming.</p>
<p>Joe’s grandmother was a shawlie. Joe’s wife re-enacts the shawlies. Joe remembers vermin everywhere on Coal Quay especially on Monday morning. Near where Bodega is now where Clayton Love’s used to be, the Loft Carpet is there now shawlies could trade in there too. You could trade indoors but you paid more to be out of the rain than trading outside. Joe’s grandmother traded under the clock and only sold fish- mackerel and apples. You’d be surprised how many ‘lords and ladies’ would buy their fruit and veg in the Coal Quay because it was fresh with mud still on the cabbage brought in by farmers on horse and cart.</p>
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<p><strong>Ryan’s Pub on North Main Street and sleeping Farmers</strong></p>
<p>Mary Ryans bar many people went in there in the mornings for a ‘pick me up’ to keep warm. Farmers would abandon the horse and cart to go in there. Most horses would know their way home even if the farmer had too many “nips of Powers”. The farmer would fall asleep in the back of the cart and wake up in Blarney or Ovens. Joe would jump on the back of the cart without the farmer knowing and go out the Carrigrohane Straights which was the countryside then. Then they might swim in the Lee Fields sometimes in their clothes. ‘We were young, foolish but happy’.</p>
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<p><strong>0.41.15 - 0.42.05</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Food, Shoes and the Pawn</strong></p>
<p>Weren’t getting T-bone steaks at home. But they had potatoes, vegetables and homemade skull (bread). Was never hungry. Mother would get remnants of lino from the Munster Furniture and Hardware and cut them for insoles for their shoes. They had good shoes for going to mass which you had to take off straight away at home to be sent to Jones’s Pawn on the end of Shandon Street. </p>
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<p><strong>School Violence and good teacher</strong></p>
<p>Hated St Joseph’s School because always got kicked in the ankle or had his toe stepped on or a clatter on the back of the ear for not being able to spell. Left there and went to St Francis School and the entrance was from North Main Street by Bradley’s Supermarket or by Broad Lane beyond the dispensary.</p>
<p>Learned more in last two years in St Francis from lay teachers than he did from St Joseph. Teachers may have scolded them but never hit them. “Anything you don’t understand ask me” the teacher told them. Joe was watching the clock for when to leave, and watching the tides to know when the tides were bringing back the fish. </p>
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<p><strong>0.43.30 - 0.44.50</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Changes in the Marsh for families: safety & shopping</strong></p>
<p>Joe’s son would love to live in the Marsh to rear his children. Couldn’t let them run around on the street with the traffic. But they would have Fitzgerald’s Park and close to Mercy Hospital. 5 minutes from 3 different supermarkets. Sometimes hear people singing or shouting coming back from the pub. The neighbours come to watch. Only incident he remembers in 36 years is that a few car mirrors were broken. Grattan Street is off the beaten track despite Washington Street being so close.</p>
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<p><strong>0.44.50 - 0.46.15</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Food or not at School</strong></p>
<p>Not given food in St Francis School but given food in St Joseph’s in the morning “to toughen you up for the beating you would get in the afternoon”. Cocoa and creamy buns in the morning. A few years later they cut back to scones which weren’t the same!</p>
<p>One time Joe didn’t get cocoa and a bun because his dad had gotten a promotion. And it upset Joe that all his friends got it.</p>
<p>At the age of 10 or 11 he was in St Francis “the Rowdy Boys College”. St Peter and Pauls School was before Joe’s time.</p>
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<p><strong>0.46.15 - 0.48.17</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Food and Cooking</strong></p>
<p>Homemade skull or loaf of bread. His mother would make the bread. And nine times out of ten it would turn out right. the Hills were the biggest population of their aunts and cousins. Across the road from them was nanny Hill. Joe would get his dessert there. For school lunch he’d go home and get a sandwich with soup in the winter and diluted raspberry. Cheese sandwich- “poor man’s meat”. Very lucky to get a ham and cheese sandwich. When going back to school he would pause outside his house no 9 Devonshire Street. Across the road was 34 Nanny Hill’s house and she would bring over the heel of homemade skull plastered with blackcurrant jam which he’d eat on the way back to St Joseph’s on the ‘Dyke [Mardyke] only 5 minutes’ walk, but took him 10 or 15 minutes because he didn’t want to be punctual. He would get a punch from a brother for having a ring of jam around his lips.</p>
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<p><strong>0.48.17 - 0.49.40</strong></p>
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<p><strong>School beating by Presentation Brother and boy’s father’s revenge</strong></p>
<p>There is a [Presentation] brother who is now married and living in Grange with a son and daughter. Joe would call him names if he ever met him again. A friend of Joe’s spent three nights in the Mercy Hospital after a beating from this brother. He made him take down his trousers until he only had his Y-front underwear on and beat him there with a four-foot bamboo cane. He was lying on his belly in the Mercy.</p>
<p>There’s a black fire escape in St Joseph’s which is still there. The father of that boy had the brother hanging over the fire escape. People were screaming. And Joe and others were hoping that he would drop him.</p>
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<p><strong>0.49.40 - 0.51.39</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Relief after school, Priest Friend assisting the Marsh Community</strong></p>
<p>Joe’s life began when he left that school because the fear was gone. He was able to concentrate in school then. In St Joseph’s the teacher was only interested in teaching 4 or 5 smart guys and the rest were punch bags. When Joe was 21 he had as good a job as any of his peers. The brothers were sadists he says. Thinks it took 5 years to become a priest and 7 to become a brother. They were young men who had never seen life and mostly put there by their parents.</p>
<p>A retired priest, friend of Joe’s, ‘an t-athair Ó Murchú’ who was the priest in St Peter and Paul’s and is now in Belgooley. Joe goes down to him once a week on a Sunday and they bring him a creamy cake. When people were fighting for things in the parish he supported them, even when they weren’t agreeing with the HSE. The car park where Munster Furniture is the HSE were talking about putting a multi-storey car park there 30 years ago which was diverted to Dunnes Stores Car Park.</p>
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<p><strong>0.51.39 - 0.53.03</strong></p>
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<p><strong>The Marsh Community object to multi-storey carpark</strong></p>
<p>People in the Marsh chained themselves across Grattan Street to stop trucks coming in to build a multi-storey car park. But they told the Gardaí in advance so they were on their side and they had no trouble. Joe knew the sergeant well and they used advise them the best way to have a peaceful protest and yet stop everything.</p>
<p>Joe has many other memories but feels a little bit under pressure because of the recorder.</p>
<p>Other things that they did ‘fighting for their rights’ because they could see offices and buildings going up that they opposed.</p>
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<p><strong>0.53.03 - 0.58.30</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Problems with multi-storey car park and Student Accommodation in the Marsh</strong></p>
<p>Was in a meeting with the Council and Paul Moynihan from City Hall explained what was happening. The council own so much of the car park and building to right of Munster Furniture and Hardware. So if the council don’t sell these to the new developers there won’t be enough room for the student accommodation. Joe doesn’t have anything against students but object to their parties which have aged some local residents. Thinks in the past students didn’t behave how they do now.</p>
<p>Joe & his wife decided they’d leave if the student accommodation is built, they don’t mind whether they go to the northside or to the southside, but somewhere on a bus route or somewhere near the city. Joe says he’s getting emotional because he always swore that he would die in the Marsh.</p>
<p>Joe would like to see a small 5 or 6 storey hotel being built instead and there’s space for coaches. Or family housing being built.</p>
<p>They named out other places where student accommodation could be built eg. The Good Shepherd building across from the Lee Fields and Joe was told the students would have so far to walk because they would be high-end students.</p>
<p>Joe says the students behave like riff-raff when they are drunk.</p>
<p>He was told the accommodation would have security.</p>
<p>Joe knows one of the security men for the student accommodation on Lancaster Quay and they are behaved inside the complex but outside there is no control.</p>
<p>Joe fears that students will be drinking in doorways in the Marsh or outside on tables which are being built for them to study on. Joe said that if they are 320 high-end students they will have cars and nowhere to park them, and they will have more money for alcohol. So Joe said the riff-raff students would be better!</p>
<p>Joe can’t believe a walk from St Anne’s to UCC is too far. </p>
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<p><strong>Sicknesses past and changes now</strong></p>
<p>People died from diseases which no one knew what caused them. Some diseases that were killing people have simple cures now.</p>
<p>Joe is more concerned about sicknesses today including insects like ticks and leeches.</p>
<p>They would go to the dispensary for medication and prescription. If anything was too serious they would send you to the A&E but first get you to sign a form saying you had visited him so that he could get paid. </p>
<p>Lots of measles. Chickenpox. Mumps used to be a killer disease especially for men as it could make you impotent.</p>
<p>If you went to get medication from the Dispensary you had to bring your own empty bottle. Completely different attitude from doctors now. Might have been given tablets even if there was nothing wrong with you.</p>
<p>People who were sent to St Anne’s because of a drinking/ alcohol problem for a few weeks but never came out.</p>
<p>Joe didn’t get a clip in the ear growing up but he did do it for his children.</p>
<p>Joe used to drink and just wanted to sleep after it. He thinks that women today wouldn’t take the abuse that women used to put up with.</p>
<p>One man who went to St Anne’s was signed out by his niece years later and he was afraid of the double-decker bus and went back in of his free will to St Anne’s.</p>
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<p><strong>1.04.41 - 1.06.53</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Issues with HSE Services in the city Centre</strong></p>
<p>Joe hopes HSE look elsewhere for offices rather than in the city centre.</p>
<p>Methodone clinics around Cork Joe was told need to be in the city because they won’t travel for it which means it needs to be near Grattan Street.</p>
<p>There’s a Community Garda. But Joe and his wife have not seen a Garda on the beat for three weeks.</p>
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<p><strong>1.06.53 - 1.09.04</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Work of the Middle Parish Community Centre </strong></p>
<p>Joe and others including George [Patterson] do their best to keep the Middle Parish Community Centre going.</p>
<p>Narcotics anonymous rent out a room upstairs. Alcoholics Anonymous, Gamblers Anonymous. There’s been no vandalism.</p>
<p>Joe saw a man he knew going to Narcotics Anonymous outside La Verna near St Francis Church and he shook his hand because he was proud of him for trying to give up.</p>
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<p><strong>1.09.04 - 1.26.27</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Experiences as an alcoholic and trying to give up</strong></p>
<p>Joe describes himself as a “dry alcoholic”. Joe hasn’t drunk for six years. He didn’t realise he had a drink problem because he was never aggressive or barred from anywhere.</p>
<p>It took Joe years to realise he was unable to home after work without first going to the pub. And that he was having a few pints in a number of bars and that this was adding up to ten pints a night. He decided eventually that he would stop. If someone had told him that he had a drink problem he would have been “highly insulted” and thought he could stop drinking any time he wanted.</p>
<p>He went to a few AA meetings and they didn’t suit him.</p>
<p>He used to smoke 55/60 cigarettes a day while driving articulated trucks long distance for 35 years all over Ireland. He gave up cigarettes and thought it would be easier to give up alcohol.</p>
<p>Ten years ago he gave up alcohol for 2 years. Alcoholics’ Anonymous saying is ‘one day at a time’. He was down in Inchydoney Hotel with his family and dogs. He was tired after lots of driving to Dublin, Wicklow and delivering salt to Killybegs. He kept track of his progress being off alcohol and appreciated the support of his wife.</p>
<p>He went into the hotel and had some coke. The Munster Final was on. While waiting at a busy bar for more Coke he saw two men he knew drinking stout. And he ordered a pint of Murphys stout after he saw them. He made ten attempts to leave the pint there, but it overpowered him. He had a devil on one shoulder and a guardian angel on the other. He usually drank a pint in four sups. He went close to the toilet for his first sup in case he was sick from not being used to drinking after two years. He ordered a half-pint of Murphys. He felt fairly content because he felt he could handle the alcohol now.</p>
<p>He had two pints of Beamish in Forde’s with a friend of his on a Friday. And slowly he was having more pints and on Wednesdays as well as Fridays until “the drink had a hold of me again”. He knew he couldn’t handle whiskey. Collapsed three times due to liver poisoning.</p>
<p>He had to come home from Turkey when he collapsed, his doctor said they saved his life. He wasn’t allowed to eat or drink for 4 days.</p>
<p>His GP was waiting for him at midnight when he arrived home in Cork and brought him to the Mercy. He told Joe he was lucky because his liver function was only at 52% working. It took 17 hours for his liver to get to 53% working.</p>
<p>After a few weeks he started drinking again. He collapsed at home one morning unconscious for 20 seconds. GP took tests. Went to the Regional Hospital and put in intensive care. Dr Seamus O’Mahony was his liver specialist out there. Seamus told him not to waste his time if he was going to keep drinking and not to come to him without his wife because she would tell the truth about his drinking.</p>
<p>Doctor asked him how many units he drank and Joe asked to speak in pints not units. Joe said 20 pints. The doctor said that’s a lot to have in a week. And Joe’s wife said that’s on a Saturday! Two drinking sessions on a Saturday.</p>
<p>He was getting liver function tests on a regular basis and his liver was getting stronger.</p>
<p>Joe used to give up alcohol two days before going to the doctor but didn’t realise that alcohol makes triglycerides in the body which take days to be broken down.</p>
<p>Joe used drink cans of beer at home when his wife was away. He would vomit it up after two ‘slugs’ or gulps. And then he would try to drink it again. </p>
<p>He said that you have to admit it to yourself that you have a problem. He realised that if he didn’t stop he wouldn’t see his five grand-children grow up.</p>
<p>He has never been happier than he is now sober. His children can ring him at any time for a lift. And his children can depend on him.</p>
<p>Joe still takes one day at a time.</p>
<p>Joe knew a guy who was 33 years sober and he went to London and started drinking and was knocked down by a bus.</p>
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<p><strong>Family living in the Dispensary building Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Barrett family who lived in the Dispensary had children who are still alive living in southside who would be older than him. “they were all genuine down to earth people”. To the left of where the marriage registrar is now is where they lived. On the right hand side was an old lady sitting in a box like a phone box cut in half. And she would take people’s details as they entered. The double doors to the clinic were closed. The Barrett sons went to St Joseph’s School as well. </p>
<p>Joe jokes about a previous interview I had with a friend of his Liam O hUiginn, and jokingly says he’s a very old man. Joe also apologises again for not being used to “speaking in public” pointing at the digital recorder.</p>
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Joe Scanlan: Grattan Street, Healthcare, The Marsh
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CFP_SR00728_Scanlan_2019;
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<strong>Other Interviews in this Collection </strong><br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/240" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00696_O'Regan_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/242" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00704_Collins_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/243" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00706_Higgisson_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/244" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00712_O'Brien_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/245" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00713_Kearney_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/246" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00714_Cunning_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/247" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00717_Ward_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/248" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00727_OhUigin_2019</a>;<br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/250" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00729_Mulcahy_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/251" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00732_Cassidy_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/252" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00760_Morrissy_2019</a>; <br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/253" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> CFP_SR00762_OConnell_2019</a>;
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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English
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25 July 2019
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<p><span>Joe recalls the dispensary on Grattan Street, its waiting room and the names of the doctors who worked there. He describes in detail his visit there to get a vaccination as a child. Discusses medical treatments administered at home by his mother including those for fleas and head lice. </span></p>
<p><span>Recalls as a teenager being told by a doctor who was smoking to give up smoking. Comments on how widespread smoking was at the time. Humorous story about asking a Garda for a cigarette. </span></p>
<p><span>Story of Cork character ‘Kick the Bucket’, a young man who was convinced he was going to die very soon but lived to be 81.</span></p>
<p><span>Speaks of playing on the streets of The Marsh and The Middle Parish as a child and how they would go to the Mercy Hospital if they were injured playing football. Describes rival groups of boys from Grattan Street and the Coal Quay having fruit throwing fights. </span></p>
<p><span>Describes how as a child he used a skull from a tomb in St Peter’s Cemetery to use as a Jack O Lantern. Returns to the topic of underage smoking and acquiring cigarettes from adults. </span></p>
<p><span>Explains a form of recycling where he collected empty glass bottles to return to a shop in exchange for money. He used the money for cigarettes and matches or to pay for a cinema ticket. Recalls Dermot’s Cake shop on Adelaide Street.</span></p>
<p><span>Talks about his passion for fishing, avoiding the bailiff and selling his fish catch to local fish and chip shops. Tells of his fishing rob being confiscated by the bailiff and retrieving it. </span></p>
<p><span>Mentions children taking sweets from a shop on Sheares Street without paying for them. </span></p>
<p><span>Discusses income inequality and buying clothes on the Coal Quay. Explains how he made floats for fishing from wine bottle corks made by his dad’s friend for Woodford Bourne’s on Sheares Street.</span></p>
<p><span>Reflects on crime and safety in the city centre and tells the story of a house being burgled where the owner shouted out that he had nothing worth stealing.</span></p>
<p><span>Outlines some long standing Grattan Street residents’ concerns about their neighbourhood today including students, student parties, students drinking on the street, cark parks, bus routes, student accommodation, Edel House, increased traffic, methodone clinics, community Gardaí and the HSE’s use of buildings in the city centre.</span></p>
<p><span>Remembers Shawlies on the Coal Quay, including his own grandmother. Describes the products sold there and farmers bringing vegetables with dirt on them by horse and cart. Mentions Ryan’s Pub on North Main Street and how the farmers might frequent it.</span></p>
<p><span>Speaks of the simple food and meals he ate, and how his shoes were pawned but bought back in time to wear for mass.</span></p>
<p><span>Recalls the violence and fear of St Joseph’s School and wanting to leave to go fishing. Speaks of his preference for St. Francis School where he was not beaten and learned a lot. Outlines getting food and cocoa in the morning at school. Tells the story of a father confronting a Presentation Brother for an excessive beating to his son. </span></p>
<p><span>Talks about food and his mother making bread and mentions other foods and treats from his grandmother.</span></p>
<p><span>Speaks about fatal diseases in the past including mumps. To receive medication in the dispensary you had to bring your own empty bottle. </span></p>
<p><span>Speaks about the work of the Middle Parish Community Centre especially in relation to addiction. This prompts Joe to speak of his own story of dealing with his alcohol addiction, the risks alcohol posed to his health, liver disease, his desire to see his grandchildren grow up and his happiness now he has successfully remained sober for many years.</span></p>
<p><span>Mentions the Barrett family who lived in the dispensary building.</span></p>
Accommodation
Addiction
Adelaide Street
Alcohol
Alcoholics Anonymous
Alcoholism
Alleys
Angler
Angling
Animals
Anti-Social Behaviour
Asylum
Bailiff
Bar
bars
boys fighting
Bread
Building
Built Heritage
Car
Car Park
Caretaker
Carpark
Cars
Cart
Cemetery
Characters
Childhood
Children
Children’s Games
Chipper
Chippers
Chips
Cigarettes
Cinema
City Centre
Clothes
Coal Quay
Cocoa
Coleman’s Lane
Community
Cooking
Cork Characters
Corporal Punishment
Crime
Dermot’s Shop
development
Disease
Diseases
Dispensary
Doctor
Doctors
Drink
Edel House
Families
Family
Farmers
Father
Fighting
Fights
Film
Films
Fish and Chips
Fishing
Fishing Rod
Fitzgerald’s Park
Fleas
Food
Forde’s
Friends
Fruit
Gamblers Anonymous
Games
Garda
Gardai
Grandmother
Grattan Street
Graveyard
Halloween
Headlice
Health
health and hygiene
Home
Home Ownership
Horse
Horse and Cart
Horses
House
House Ownership
Housing
HSE
Hygiene
Ice-cream
Illness
income inequality
Inequality
Joseph’s School
Kick the Bucket
Lee Fields
Lice
Liver
Liver Disease
London
markets
Marsh
Mass
Meals
Medication
Medicine
Mercy Hospital
Methodone
Middle Parish
Money
Mother
Mumps
Munster Furniture
Munster Furniture and Hardware
Narcotics Anonymous
North Main Street
Parents
Parking
Pawn
Pawn Shop
Pawn Shops
Pawning
Pawns
Pawnshop
Pawnshops
People
Pharmacist
Pictures
Playing
Pothole
Potholes
Poverty
Prescription
Presentation Brothers
Priest
Produce
protests
Pubs
Recycling
Religion
Ryan’s Bar
Ryan’s Pub
Safety
School
Selling
Shawl
Shawlies
Shawls
Sheares Street
Shoes
Shopkeeper
Shopping
Shops
Sickness
smoking
Sober
Sobriety
St Anne's Mental Asylum
St Joseph’s School
St Peter’s
St Peter’s Cemetery
St. Anne's Asylum
St. Anne’s
St. Francis Church
St. Francis School
St. Peter’s Cemetery
Stealing
student accommodation
Students
Sweets
Swim
Swimming
Tanora
Teacher
Teachers
Teenager
The Marsh
The Middle Parish
Theft
Tomb
Treat
Treats
Uptown Grill
Vaccination
vaccine
Vaccines
Vegetables
Violence
Waiting Room
Woodbine
Woodbines
Woodford Bourne
Woodford Bourne's
Woodford Bournes
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<p>Grattan Street Stories: Memory of Place</p>
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Occupational Lore; Life History; Built Heritage; Health; Ireland; Cork; Middle Parish
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<p>This collection focuses on a building on Grattan Street which has served as a Quaker Meeting House, a public Dispensary and as the Grattan Street Health Centre. The project was a collaboration between the CFP and the Cork North Community Work Department, Cork Kerry Community Healthcare, Health Services Executive HSE. </p>
<p>The interviewees fall into two main groups: those who worked in the building and those who lived in the surrounding area and availed of the services provided in the building.</p>
<p>This project follows on from the collaboration with the HSE in the “<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>”. There is a further connection between the two projects as many of the staff and services once provided in the Grattan Street Health Centre have now relocated to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. This topic of the relocation of services is also covered in some staff interviews. <br /><br />To date (October 2021) 13 interviews have been completed for the project.<br /><br />Interviewees discuss the Grattan Street building itself in terms of its historic significance, its benefits and drawbacks as a workplace. Broader themes related to or inspired by the building are also touched on including: personal relationship with the building, staff camaraderie, the problems with parking, memorable incidents at work, patient experiences and descriptions of the people and services for which the building catered.<br /><br />Healthcare professional interviewees detail their training, career progression and comparisons between Grattan Street and other workplaces. Their testimonies also provide a link with the community of patients they served giving further insight into attitudes to healthcare, diseases, vaccines, description of social conditions and the changes in medicine and technology in their working lives.<br /><br />Non-healthcare professional interviewees describe childhood experiences in or around Grattan Street (The Marsh or The Middle Parish), the social, cultural and economic conditions of the area, tenements, businesses, attitudes to and experiences of healthcare, vaccines, diseases, medicines and medical professionals as well as observed changes in these areas over time.<br /><br />Interviewees also reflect on the possible future uses of the Grattan Street building.<br /><br /><strong>Related Reference Sources</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Barrington, R.<em> (</em>1987) <em>Health, medicine and politics in Ireland, 1900–1970</em>. Dublin: Institute of Public Administration.</li>
<li><span>Butler D.M. (2004) <em>The Quaker meeting houses of Ireland</em></span>. Dublin : Irish Friends Historical Committee.</li>
<li><span>Byrne, J. (2004) <em>Byrne's dictionary of Irish local history.</em> Cork: Mercier Press.</span></li>
<li>Cooke, R. T. (1999) <em>My Home by the Lee</em>. Irish Millennium Publications: Cork.</li>
<li><span>Dempsey, P. J. & White, L. W. ‘Childers, Erskine Hamilton’. <em>Dictionary of Irish Biography</em> </span>[Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Harrison, R.S. (1991) <em>Cork City Quakers 1655-1939: A Brief History</em>. Cork.</li>
<li>Houston, M. (2004). ‘Life before the GP’. <em>The</em> <em>Irish Times. </em>Available at : <<a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599">https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599</a> > [Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Keohane, F. (2020) <em>The Buildings of Ireland Cork City and County</em>. New Haven and London: Yale University Press.</li>
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2019-2020
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<p>Interviewees: Edith O’Regan, 'Mary', Sean Higgisson, Aoife O’Brien, Eileen Kearney, Imelda Cunning, Jane Ward, Liam Ó hUigín, Joe Scanlan, Mary Mulcahy, Philomena Cassidy, Don Morrissy, Derek O’Connell</p>
<p>Interviewer: <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a>, (<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a>)</p>
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<p>Cork, Ireland 1940s-2020s; Waterford, Ireland; Dublin, Ireland; Limerick, Ireland;</p>
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<p><strong>Exhibition</strong></p>
<p>Artist Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave (also an interviewee for the project) created a visual artwork based around the Grattan Street Medical Centre building itself, as a workplace and health centre. The artwork incorporated direct quotations from the oral history interviews conducted for the project, and also included brief historical paragraphs about the building researched, written and edited by the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy. This exhibition was launched on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 in “St Peter’s” on the North Main Street where a “Listening Event” was also held to mark the occasion.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:10%;"><br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" alt="Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" /><br /><br /></p>
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<p><strong>Presentation and Listening Event</strong></p>
<p>To coincide with the launch of the Grattan Street Stories Exhibtion on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 a listening event and presentation of the history of the Grattan Street Medical Centre building and description of the project was given by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/427A7714-1.jpg" alt="427A7714-1.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Presentation</strong></p>
<p>In 2019 at the OHNI conference the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy discussed social media and oral history which included audio excerpts from the Grattan Street Stories Project along with photographs of the building.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" alt="Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Audio Visual Presentation</strong></p>
<p>An audio-visual slideshow was produced featuring oral testimony from the Grattan Street Stories Project and combined with suitable images of Grattan Street and from Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave’s exhibition. This was created by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /></p>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnjEtQeOb3I&t=1s&ab_channel=CorkFolklore" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audio Visual Presentation Available to listen and view here.</a>
<p><strong>Health and Vaccines Oral History Research<br /></strong><br />Many of the interviews conducted for the Grattan Street project formed an integral part of the testimonies and research for the innovative<br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">'Catching Stories'<span> </span>of infectious disease in Ireland </a>project funded by the Irish Research Council.<br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" alt="Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" /></a></p>
<strong>Social Media</strong> <br /><br />Numerous suitable audio excerpts from the oral history interviews have been edited and shared on CFP's social media channels.<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736</a>
<strong>Orthopaedic Hospital</strong><br />Cork Folklore Project in collaboration with the HSE conducted an oral history project focussing on the Orthapaedic Hospital in Gurranabraher. <br /><br /><span>Many of the staff and services once provided at the Grattan Street Health Centre site were moved to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. </span><br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>
<strong>Swimming Article</strong><br /><br />Kieran Murphy and James Furey co-authored an article about<br /><a href="https://tripeanddrisheen.substack.com/p/swim-city?s=r" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Swimming in Cork</a> which appeared in the online magazine Tripe + Drisheen. This article features a number of interview extracts collected as part of the Grattan Street Stories Project.
<strong>Related Interviews<br /><br /></strong>CFP_SR00756_Quilligan_2019;<br />CFP_SR00758_Broderick_2019;<br />CFP_SR00670_OShea_2018;<strong><br /><br /></strong>
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project
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English
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Audio
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16 .wav Files
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Jane Ward
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Kieran Murphy
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126 Minutes 10 Seconds
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St Mary’s Primary Health Care Centre Gurranabraher
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.wav
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<p><strong>0.00.00 - 0.00.28</strong></p>
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<p>intro</p>
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<p><strong>0.00.28 - 0.02.41</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Growing Up in County Dublin </strong></p>
<p>Grew up in Balbriggan County Dublin, seaside town between Dublin and Drogheda. When growing up she was allowed to Drogheda to shop by herself but not to Dublin because Drogheda was considered a safer town. [Jane mentions that Drogheda is not considered safe at present this is an allusion to drug gang related violence in Drogheda which was in the news around the time of the interview.]</p>
<p>Also mentions Skerries as a seaside town in County Dublin. Went to school in Loreto Convent in Balbriggan at 4 and finished when 17 and refused the nuns’ offer to stay another year. Stayed in the same school for primary and secondary school, the benefit of which is having the same people with you.</p>
<p>Had a school reunion about a year previously. Some of her classmates she didn’t recognise, but some of their names she also didn’t recognise.</p>
<p>Says she loves Balbriggan.</p>
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<p><strong>0.02.41 - 0.04.28</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Moving House as Child</strong></p>
<p>Balbriggan and Skerries were just 4 miles apart, moved to Skerries when a teenager but considers herself to be from Balbriggan. Rivalry between the two towns and Skerries is considered to be nicer.</p>
<p>Balbriggan was more “Wavin pipes”, more industry, Skerries was more for tourists. There was a holiday camp called Red Island that people in Dublin used to go to in Skerries. It was like the holiday camp in Dirty Dancing. [3:27-3:33 Aoife O’Brien who had been interviewed for the Grattan Street Project previously walks into the room at this point.]</p>
<p>Skerries would have considered itself snobby as it has a rugby and sailing club.</p>
<p>Even though she moved to Skerries she still went to school in Ballbriggan which was “not the done thing”. Her brothers went to school in Skerries and are married and live in Skerries.</p>
<p>Bracken Court Hotel in Balbriggan which has been there forever and she remembers going there for her Holy Communion breakfast.</p>
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<p><strong>0.04.28 - 0.07.13</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Holy Communion Day</strong></p>
<p>It was a small group making their holy communion in the convent church rather than the town church. It was special in the sense that there were few children making their communion. Kathleen Gavin was given the wrong time for the communion and turned up an hour late and “the nuns ate her” and the nuns wouldn’t admit that they gave her the wrong time and she had to bring it in the next day to prove it to them. Kathleen still tells that story and is traumatised by it. She had to make her first holy communion by herself.</p>
<p>It was a lovely sunny day and they all stood on the steps of the convent for a photograph. Confirmation was made in town.</p>
<p>Now people will have a meal out after a communion or confirmation but in Jane’s time that was not always the case. But her aunt who lived next door brought her to the Grand Hotel (now the Bracken Court Hotel Balbriggan) for a lunch/brunch after the ceremony. And this was “a huge deal” because it was not a common occurrence at the time.</p>
<p>For confirmation there were a few schools being confirmed at once. And there was a line of boys and a line of girls being confirmed at the same time in the church. All the girls wanted to be kneeling beside John Conway a boy who everyone fancied.</p>
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<p><strong>0.07.13 - 0.10.15</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Games when growing up</strong></p>
<p>She wasn’t big into sport. Lived in a big old haunted house which her grandmother left to her mother. It was near the sea. As children they were allowed onto the rocks by themselves.</p>
<p>She played basketball in school but was not very good at it. Didn’t like that kind of confrontation.</p>
<p>Played by the sea, it wasn’t a beach but rocks. Picnics and playing. Her dad built a ship in the garden, with a deck and sails. She was a big fan of Enid Blyton books as a child, especially the Secret Seven and the ‘Famous Five’ books. Her dad build them a Secret Seven type hut in the garden. As children they “went on mysteries”. They followed one man in imitation of the Enid Blyton books and decided that he was a smuggler. And they followed him up to a Martello Tower where he happened to be going to urinate.</p>
<p>They had more freedom then, allowed to leave in the morning and return in the evening. That was the norm and there wasn’t the supervision that is present today.</p>
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<p><strong>0.10.15 - 0.16.01</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Old Family House</strong></p>
<p>Fancourt: big Georgian house. She hated leaving the house as a child. It was very expensive to keep the house and there were also rates to pay. In addition there were fees to pay for the convent school and there was five children going to school.</p>
<p>So they moved to a smaller house in Skerries.</p>
<p>Fancourt: Three storey, basement and land attached to it but there was more but it was sold to try to keep the house. Discusses the house and its jointly owned green area with the neighbouring houses.</p>
<p>Haunted house: where priests were staying which was her sister’s bedroom- she saw a ghost of a monk. Other stories of ghosts including knocking on doors and foxhunters.</p>
<p>Regrets the old furniture was sold, including servants bells. Jane is interested in auctions.</p>
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<p><strong>0.16.01- 0.17.08</strong></p>
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<p><strong>House in Skerries</strong></p>
<p>Small, terrace house. Skerries nice place to live by sea. Brother lived in Brambles estate and bought new house on the skerries terrace.</p>
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<p><strong>0.17.08 - 0.23.13</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Secondary School</strong></p>
<p>Loved school. Regrets being too good and not being bold.</p>
<p>Wore green uniform. No street lights and was too far from town to meet friends after school at Loreto Convent. Loved the nuns though they were tough. Grateful to her parents for her education.</p>
<p>Loved her friends, the school and its old building. Felt safe. Describes herself as average student not into sports.</p>
<p>Few jobs for women when they finished school.</p>
<p>English was her favourite subject. Would love to be librarian. Prefers physical books to E-books/Kindle.</p>
<p>Pressure on students today at exam time. Criticises the Leaving Certificate points system where students opt for high points courses rather than one they are interested in.</p>
<p>Importance of working at something you like: “Hard work won’t kill you but work you hate will”</p>
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<p><strong>0.23.13- 0.26.36</strong></p>
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<p><strong><span>Nursing Training & Hunger Strike Incident</span></strong></p>
<p><span>Jane’s mother had been a nurse. When she finished school there was a shortage of nurses. The applied directly to hospitals for nursing. But hospitals wanted trained staff rather than students.</span></p>
<p><span>Trained in Jervis Street Hospital where the shopping centre is in Dublin now was a general hospital.</span></p>
<p><span>Saying about nurses and Dublin hospitals: “Vincent’s snobs, Mater ladies and Jervis Nurses”</span></p>
<p><span>Recalls riots due to Hunger Strikes. A man pulled a gun on her on O’Connell Street. Night duty on ward on her own, 20-25 beds. 24 rioters and 1 Garda were in the same ward. </span></p>
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<p><strong>0.26.36 - 0.31.48</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Wanting to be a Nurse & Early Nursing Experience</strong></p>
<p>Played hospital as a child. Always wanted to work in nursing. Has enjoyed much of it. Would not advise anyone to do nursing.</p>
<p>Recalls seeing a confused naked man on her first day.</p>
<p>Worried crying about giving the wrong medication to patient.</p>
<p>Nurse students were also staff.</p>
<p>Loved Irish nurses in America when she was their because their training was very practical.</p>
<p>Enjoyed her time in St Mary’s Hospital New Jersey USA.</p>
<p>Film “FX Murder by Illusion” features the hospital she worked in.</p>
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<p><strong>0.31.48 - 0.34.50</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Hospital in USA and Differences in Immigrants’ Intention </strong></p>
<p>AIDS was a big issue in the hospital in USA</p>
<p>Observes that most immigrant groups in USA wanted to stay there but Irish people wanted to return to Ireland.</p>
<p>Impact of Irish on the world St Patrick’s Day Parade. Thinks Irish people are patriotic abroad and keen to return home.</p>
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<p><strong>0.34.50 - 0.37.43</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Discipline in Hospital</strong></p>
<p>Difficult senior nurses. The sense of hierarchy. Demeaning and mocking way junior nurses were spoken to was accepted. Jane was referred to as an “anencephalic”, a baby born without part of its head which will soon die.</p>
<p>When you knelt down your uniform had to touch the ground. Ward sister demanded to see under Jane’s uniform to see she was wearing a slip under her uniform.</p>
<p>Nurses were allowed to wear a cardigan at night but had to take it off in the morning.</p>
<p>A nurse went to Saudi Arabia where she was murdered.</p>
<p>Thinks they were strict about stupid things. Discipline was important. No one thought to question it.</p>
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<p><strong>0.37.43 - 0.40.58</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Story of nurses boycotting nursing event</strong></p>
<p>Did midwifery in Rotunda. The Scottish matron didn’t hire any of the students but hired Scottish nurses.</p>
<p>Jane & fellow midwifery students boycotted the graduation event in protest at this. Matron spoke to them individually. A brave nurse refused to answer any questions unless her union representative. Jane’s class is the only one not to have a group photo because of the boycott.</p>
<p>People didn’t defy superiors at the time.</p>
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<p><strong>0.40.58 - 0.42.32</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Effect of the Strict Discipline</strong></p>
<p>Some staff were panicky and nervous about making a mistake. May have incentivised people to cover up mistakes to avoid the repercussions instead of working something out.</p>
<p>Matron could make personal remarks about nurses without repercussions: telling a nurse to fix her crooked teeth.</p>
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<p><strong>0.42.32 - 0.44.22</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Religion in Hospitals</strong></p>
<p>No MRSA in those days. Nuns ran a very clean and efficient hospital. Jervis was a Catholic hospital. Rotunda was a Protestant hospital, most of the staff were Catholic and they went to mass, then the Protestants went to service and were given tea and biscuits.</p>
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<p><strong>0.44.22 - 0.50.00</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Working as a Nurse in USA: differences to Irish system</strong></p>
<p>Had to sit an exam before working as a nurse in USA.</p>
<p>VISA dependant on passing the exam. Irish nurses were not used to multiple choice exams at the time. They were also required to sit an English language examination to work as a nurse in the USA.</p>
<p>Rented houses were arranged for the nurses. Jane had a car and dated a man in Washington at the time. An exciting time.</p>
<p>Maximum was 2 patients to a room in USA vs larger wards in Ireland. In USA their reports were taken on a tape recorder rather than written.</p>
<p>Patient’s doctor would still be their doctor once they went to hospital.</p>
<p>DRG Diagnostic Related Grouping which was related to how many days insurance would be paid per patient per illness.</p>
<p>Good life and money in USA which allowed Jane to do the Public Health course in UCD.</p>
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<p><strong>0.50.00 - 0.56.20</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Public Health Nursing</strong></p>
<p>Desire to come home.</p>
<p>Discusses her relationship with a reporter/journalist in USA which ended when she returned to Ireland.</p>
<p>Began work in Ballyfermot - highlight in public health career.</p>
<p>Started a needle exchange for drug addiction. Dynamic and progressive area. Rough area but felt you were making a difference. Didn’t feel the same way when she moved to Cork.</p>
<p>Public Health vs Hospital:</p>
<p>In hospital you pass the patient to the next shift, but in Public Health you are responsible for all of your cases.</p>
<p>Once her camera was stolen from her car when visiting a patient.</p>
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<p><strong>0.56.20 - 1.00.49</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Coming to Cork</strong></p>
<p>Came to Cork because husband was working there.</p>
<p>Had to do an Irish oral exam to get the Public Health job in Cork.</p>
<p>November 1992 got job in Grattan Street Health Centre. Got married January 1993.</p>
<p>Staff had a lunch and cake in before her wedding, and a present even though she was only there for a month.</p>
<p>Admires architecture of Queens University Belfast, where she could have gone to work in the 1980s.</p>
<p>Remarks on the small decisions than influence one’s life and career.</p>
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<p><strong>1.00.49 - 1.06.59</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Impressions of Grattan Street Health Centre Work as Public Health Nurse</strong></p>
<p>Parking problems in Grattan Street.</p>
<p>Met director in base Abbey Court House. “The one thing you learn in Grattan Street is how to park!” There was more space before the school [Educate Together]</p>
<p>Grattan Street was a welcoming place.</p>
<p>Public Health Nurse in Blackpool flats now demolished.</p>
<p>There was a brothel in one. Fantastic people.</p>
<p>Once left handbag behind in Blackpool.</p>
<p>Mixed work in Ballyfermot but all child welfare in Cork- visiting houses.</p>
<p>Discusses one case of child with broken leg where mother hadn’t done anything about it. So a social worker and Garda were needed to get the child to hospital. Jane had to go to court. The child was returned to the mother. Jane then had to still work with that mother subsequently.</p>
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<p><strong>1.06.59 - 1.09.02</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Impression of Danger in Some Areas</strong></p>
<p>Worked with St Vincent de Paul in Knocknaheeny. Never felt threatened.</p>
<p>Privileged to get into flats that people would let no one else into.</p>
<p>If she saw suspected stolen goods she and they knew that she was not interested in anything other than child welfare.</p>
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<p><strong>1.09.02 - 1.11.35</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Story of very Difficult Patient</strong></p>
<p>Hospitals can discharge patients but as PHN the patient can live in your area for decades.</p>
<p>Nurses shared a rota to look after this man because the heavy workload.</p>
<p>Digression to story about writing wrong date in calligraphy on a colleague’s wedding album.</p>
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<p><strong>1.11.35 - 1.15.30</strong></p>
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<p><strong>What makes a Good Public Health Nurse</strong></p>
<p>Get on with people. Make people relaxed. People need to trust you. Have to be honest. Not trying to be someone’s friend.</p>
<p>Assessment of patient is important.</p>
<p>Patients can become dependent on a particular PHN.</p>
<p>Privilege to enter other people’s homes, especially when they won’t let other people into their homes eg social workers or Gardaí</p>
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<p><strong>1.15.30 - 1.19.30</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Training and Meaning from Job</strong></p>
<p>Training didn’t prepare her for PHN. Compares it to jumping off a chair to train for parachute jump.</p>
<p>End of career now. Disappointed at choices she made. She is now doing more management and less hands-on.</p>
<p>Recalls times she felt she made a difference: making a joke with a terminal patient, assisting a family who had brought their father home to die to care for him when they were overwhelmed.</p>
<p>Doesn’t feel like she is making a difference any more.</p>
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<p><strong>1.19.30 - 1.21.20</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Regrets the Management side of the Job</strong></p>
<p>As she was promoted she was had to do more management which she regrets.</p>
<p>Is considering retiring or changing career.</p>
<p>Would love to be a librarian or work with antiques or books. Discounts it as silly at this stage of her life.</p>
<p>Is unhappy with her current work. Her staff say she makes a difference but she is not sure. She took a career break and her staff missed her.</p>
<p>Feels too far away from where she started.</p>
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<p><strong>1.21.20 - 1.26.40</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Promotion to Vaccine and Management Role</strong></p>
<p>1999 nursing strike.</p>
<p>Jane was on strike committee. Picketed Abbey Court House on Sulllivan’s Quay. Meeting with management to decide whether the strikers could use the toilets and canteen.</p>
<p>Outcome of the strike was that new job for a specialist in immunisation, vaccine. Jane was stabbed by a syringe by accident one day.</p>
<p>Overnight Jane became Assistant Director, and colleagues at same grade insisted on calling her Senior Public Health Nurse which was the previous title.</p>
<p>Recalls an Assistant Director who was victimised in a more severe way to Jane which went to mediation.</p>
<p>It went away but it was nasty at the time Jane says.</p>
<p>Jane was never invited to the Assistant Director Christmas lunch for years</p>
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<p><strong>1.26.40 - 1.29.26</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Change from Clinical to Managerial Role</strong></p>
<p>Her role was a clinical role with no staff, vaccines following up on defaulters. Croke Park and Haddington Road agreements changed her role.</p>
<p>Swine Flu vaccinating 1000 people a day in Neptune Stadium.</p>
<p>School public health nurses were backbone of system. And the management system was at cross purposes. These nurses eventually came under her remit. Realised that she didn’t like management- doesn’t like taking responsibility for the mistake of others.</p>
<p>Describes her management style as “Do it, do it, do it!” and she shouldn’t have to give a reason.</p>
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<p><strong>1.29.26 - 1.33.20</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Building in Grattan Street compared to Gurranabraher</strong></p>
<p>Loves the building. Old Quaker Meeting House.</p>
<p>Graffiti of penis and scrotum that her elderly aunt was trying to figure out.</p>
<p>Would have preferred to stay in Grattan Street.</p>
<p>Recalls the old ventilation holes where pigeon droppings would land on your desk.</p>
<p>Location of Grattan Street is good for the public and services.</p>
<p>Grattan Street building requires work to maintain it.</p>
<p>Unsure if it’s a positive move for services to Gurranabraher.</p>
<p>Useful to be near Edel House [women’s shelter] and the Share Houses.</p>
<p>She has 7 staff but the new office is for 4 people which she thinks is insulting. Doesn’t believe hot desking works.</p>
<p>They are on a “room allocation review list”</p>
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<p><strong>1.33.20 - 1.35.09</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Benefits of Grattan Street Health Centre</strong></p>
<p>Close to town- shops and the bank.</p>
<p>Part of the community in Grattan Street. Close to Mercy Hospital. Building has a good feel. Felt at home there. Lots of history.</p>
<p>The only thing people don’t miss in Grattan Street is the parking. Everyone went to the Grattan Street Christmas party.</p>
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<p><strong>1.35.09 - 1.40.06</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Relationship with community in Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Animosity is with neighbours regarding parking.</p>
<p>Story about getting kitchen done by a man from Grattan Street and being concerned about parking.</p>
<p>School next door- issue with parking- children don’t live in the area. Tricky relationship with the school.</p>
<p>Story of previous principal of the school trying to get clampers to clamp all the cars belonging Grattan Street staff.</p>
<p>Other stories about the difficulties caused by parking and the uneasy relationship with the school.</p>
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<p><strong>1.40.06 - 1.40.55</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Other Stories</strong></p>
<p>Mentions that there are stories about affairs in Grattan Street but doesn’t want to tell them.</p>
<p>Says Grattan Street was a good place to work.</p>
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<p><strong>1.40.55 - 1.44.55</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Vaccine Storage Fridges Temperature Control</strong></p>
<p>Vaccines have to be kept in fridges between 2 degrees and 8 degrees. The Cold Chain- ensures that the vaccines are at the right temperature including when transported.</p>
<p>Vaccines have to be monitored and recorded twice a day.</p>
<p>Some people think Jane is over the top with her care of vaccines. She doesn’t think so. Vaccines are very expensive and important when going to school.</p>
<p>Found it hard being responsible for the vaccines even when not at work. Story that she called about the vaccines from a Gondola in Venice is not true!</p>
<p>Hundreds and thousands of euro worth of vaccines at a time when</p>
<p>Order through United Drug. She sees the price every time that she orders which is stressful to see the cost.</p>
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<p><strong>1.44.55 - 1.44.55</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Difficulties Moving Vaccines to Gurranbraher</strong></p>
<p>Dreaded moving the vaccine in Grattan Street because there’s no lift.</p>
<p>Complications of moving vaccine fridges and the required procedure.</p>
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<p><strong>1.44.55 - 1.44.55</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Funny story about Monitoring Electricity for Vaccine Fridges during Storm</strong></p>
<p>Electricity was to be cut off due to replacing telegraph poles.</p>
<p>Needed generator to keep electricity on for the vaccine fridges.</p>
<p>Jane had asked many times for a back-up generator but never received one.</p>
<p>Was asked by superior to protect the vaccine fridges from a storm, which had never been asked before.</p>
<p>Generator set up in Grattan Street yard. Jane inquired how the back-up would be physically changed if the power goes out? The solution was that the toilet light was to be left on and the electricity workers would see driving past if the power failed.</p>
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<p><strong>1.49.55 - 1.51.51</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Moving Vaccines during Floods</strong></p>
<p>Older man told Jane that Grattan Street is in a depression and so there are never any power cuts.</p>
<p>One problem during big floods in Grattan Street when wall near Mercy broke. Jane was doing vaccines for Swine Flu in Neptune at the time.</p>
<p>With steps up to Grattan Street Health Centre and vaccines on top floor Jane thought they were safe.</p>
<p>She was informed an amphibious craft was to come to move the vaccines. A Ford Fiesta arrived. They were put in St. Finbarr’s Hospital for the night.</p>
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<p><strong>1.51.51 - 1.54.25</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Future of Vaccines</strong></p>
<p>Takes the vaccine care very seriously so that it’s both safe and effective.</p>
<p>In third world vaccine storage is more complicated.</p>
<p>Tyndall Institute is developing a patch that will deliver vaccines rather than needles.</p>
<p>Makes comparison to Star Trek.</p>
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<p><strong>1.54.25 - 2.01.07</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Vaccine Take Up and vaccination policies</strong></p>
<p>Is very pro-vaccine</p>
<p>Mentions problem with social media spreading misinformation about vaccines. And the damage that can cause.</p>
<p>Doesn’t argue with vaccines with friends and family.</p>
<p>Following up with child who had only received some of the required vaccine, the mother brought the child to an area with a measles epidemic.</p>
<p>Thinks more education is needed and PHNs need to be very positive about vaccines.</p>
<p>Thinks the HPV vaccine is a no-brainer.</p>
<p>Need to dispel vaccine myths.</p>
<p>Approximately 1500 euro to vaccinate a child fully. Wonders whether the fact the vaccination schemes are free of charge makes some people take it for granted and not value it.</p>
<p>Some countries have a no vaccination no school policy. Minister for Health at the time Simon Harris had been discussing a similar policy in Ireland.</p>
<p>In some countries there are penalties for not getting vaccinations eg withdrawal of Child Benefit.</p>
<p>In Ireland the decision is left to the individual.</p>
<p>Some parents think that because all other children are vaccinated that their child will be safe.</p>
<p>Story of an unvaccinated child whose mother with only let the child play with vaccinated children!</p>
<p>“Every vaccine is a little victory”</p>
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<p><strong>2.01.07 - 2.01.54</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Opportunity for Interviewee to say anything not yet mentioned</strong></p>
<p>Describes the interview as better than a counselling session.</p>
<p>Reiterates that she has gone far away from where she started out in her career and it may be time to step back.</p>
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<p><strong>2.01.54 - 2.05.57</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Hopes for Future of Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Doesn’t believe Grattan Street can be sold.</p>
<p>There was lots of pressure on them to move, which Jane felt was unnecessary.</p>
<p>Jane’s preference was to move in the summer when the schools are closed because there would be no need to do vaccinations, but they were forced to move during term time.</p>
<p>Is not sure what services are remaining in Grattan Street.</p>
<p>Mentions a piece of furniture that she would love to have from Grattan Street.</p>
<p>Hopes the future of Grattan Street will benefit the community.</p>
<p>Discussion about Grattan Street being opened for heritage week or an open day but it never happened.</p>
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<p><strong>2.05.57 - 2.06.10</strong></p>
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<p>Outro.</p>
<p>Interview Ends.</p>
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<p><span>Jane grew up in Balbriggan and Skerries County Dublin. Describes her love of the Georgian house her family lived in and her love of old buildings and antiques before they moved to a smaller home.</span></p>
<p><span>Recalls her first holy communion where one girl arrived late and had to experience the ceremony on her own.</span></p>
<p><span>Speaks of some childhood games and playing and picnicking by the sea.</span></p>
<p><span>Enjoyed school at Loreto Convent Balbriggan even though the nuns were strict. English was her favourite subject.</span></p>
<p><span>Talks about her desire to become a nurse and her experiences in Dublin hospitals. Describes the strict discipline and hierarchy in hospitals including the way superiors exercised power over how nurses were required to dress and commented on their physical appearance with impunity. Jane outlines the negative impacts of this culture including fear of making a mistake and the incentive to cover up of mistakes. Outlines a rare challenge to authority when nurses boycotted a graduation ceremony. Mentions the role of religion in hospitals.</span></p>
<p><span>Outlines her time spend nursing in USA, a romantic relationship and her emigrant experience there before returning to Ireland to pursue Public Health Nursing (PHN), which she prefers as it feels she is making a difference.</span></p>
<p><span>Discusses moving to Cork and her early positive impressions of Grattan Street Medical Centre and its staff. Speaks about the Grattan Street building itself, including its sense of history, graffiti on its outside walls, and its convenient location in the city centre and proximity to other services. Describes the problems with car parking and the resulting tensions with neighbours. </span></p>
<p><span>Jane speaks of her PHN work in Blackpool and a court case involving a child and social worker. Outlines the characteristic of a good PHN, and how much of the role is learned through experience. Regrets the turn her career has taken towards management and away from dealing with patients.</span></p>
<p><span>Discusses the 1999 nursing strike which lead to a new role for an immunisation specialist which she was hired for. Describes how colleagues insisted on referring to her by her previous title, refusing to acknowledge her promotion and equal status. Describes her role including overseeing Swine Flu vaccinations.</span></p>
<p><span>Explains the vaccine cold storage system, the sense of responsibility for ordering them and overseeing them. Tells stories of when vaccines were relocated during a flood to protect them, and when the electricity was monitored during a storm in case the power was cut to the vaccine fridges. Mentions vaccine policies, myths and technological developments. </span></p>
<p><span>Outlines her preferred time to move services from Grattan Street to St Mary’s Primary Healthcare Centre Gurranabraher. </span></p>
Abbey Court House
America
Antique
Antiques
Apartments
Balbriggan
Ballyfermot
Belfast
Blackpool
Books
Boycott
Broken Leg
Buildings
Built Heritage
Car Park
Car Parking
Child
Childhood Games
Childhoood
Children
Children’s Health
Christmas Party
Co Dublin
Community
Confirmation
Cork
County Dublin
Court
Croke Park Agreement
Discipline
Drogheda
Dublin
Edel House
Emigrant
Emigrant Experience
Emigrants
Emigration
Enid Blyton
Family
Flats
Games
Garda
Georgian
ghost
Ghosts
Graffiti
Grattan Street
Grattan Street Health Centre
Gurranabraher
Haddington Road Agreement
Haunted house
Health
Hierarchy
Holy Communion
Holy Communion Breakfast
Home
Hospital
House
Housing
Hunger Strikes
Hygiene
Industry
Injection
Irish Language
Jervis Street Hospital
Knocknaheeny
Management
Martello Tower
Matron
Medical
Medicine
Medicines
Mercy Hospital
Midwife
Midwifery
MRSA
Needle
Needle Exchange
Neptune Stadium
Nun
Nuns
Nurse
Nursing
Nursing Training
Parking
PHN
Playing
Public Health
Public Health Nurse
Public Health Nursing
Quaker Meeting House
Quakers
Queens University Belfast
Reading
Regret
Regrets
Religion
Religion in Hospitals
Rent
Renting
Rotunda
Sea
Seaside
Shops
Siblings
Skerries
Social Work
St. Finbarr’s Hospital
St. Vincent de Paul
Storm
Swine Flu
Teenager
The Cold Chain
Trade Union
Trade Unions
Trades Union
Union
Unions
USA
Vaccination
vaccine
Vaccine Fridge
Vaccine Myths
Vaccine Storage
Vaccines