E J: The Thirties. Now I was born in ’31 and we’ll say that was all through the thirties now. The war started in ’39 and things were very bad, we were very poor like, but we didn’t know it. I mean in relative to today now we were very poor but ya see everybody was the same, so you didn’t realise you were poor. ’Tis only if you -- by comparison, that you realise you’re poor. If everybody is the same it doesn’t make any difference ya see. But the war came then and shortages like I mean, the rationing and everything and I was only thinking there now last week something struck me. Em, I love, I’d love now a heel of bread, a crusty heel of a skull and put loads of butter on it. And I did that last week and I was there on me own and I had a grand crusty heel and I was -- and I just thought, I remember, going back now, I’m going back to the time of the war. We had only an ounce, two ounces of butter or something that’s all you’d get. And I loved butter and I hated margarine. Couldn’t oh, I couldn’t stick the taste of the margarine. My mother used to scrape the margarine on the bread the way that I wouldn’t get the taste of it but I could taste it like. And em, I remember one time she was so mad at me now giving out about the margarine she gave me me own two ounces of butter for to manage meself for the week. Ya see she cut a bit of butter and she gave it to me on the small plate and she said, ‘There now,’ she said. ‘Eat that now or you can, you can eat it all today but you’ll have nothing for the week.’ And I got the butter anyway and I was being very careful and next thing now like that I got a heel and I decided put it, what I had left on top of the heel. And I sat down and ate it and me mother totally told my father and all when he came in from work, ‘Never believe what she’s after doing. The only bit of butter she have left for the week she’s after eating it on a crust of bread.’ So that was like, but I enjoyed it and I loved it d’ya know now what I? Now I didn’t do it anymore because I found having margarine for the rest of the week wasn’t great like but I enjoyed it. But isn’t it funny how things would remind ya? Last week now that reminded me of -- you know?