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Interviewees’ brother William O’Sullivan right of picture at Heatherside Sanatorium. Left of picture is Irish poet Seán O’ Riordan. Photo courtesy of Michael O’Sullivan.
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Catching Stories (of Infectious Disease In Ireland)<br /><br /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Catching-Stories-w-logos-3.png" style="width:350px;height:100px;" alt="Catching-Stories-w-logos-3.png" />
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Life History; Ireland; Health; Communicable diseases; Epidemics; Poliomyelitis; Polio; Postpoliomyelitis syndrome; Tuberculosis; TB; Measles; Diphtheria; COVID-19; Vaccines;
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">Catching Stories is a folklore-STEM collaboration project funded through the </span><a style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" target="_blank" href="https://www.sfi.ie/" class="editor-rtfLink" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">Science Foundation Ireland</span></a><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> (SFI) Discover Programme.</span></p>
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">The project was concerned with those who had first had experiences of being stricken with the disease, their family members and the public health practitioners who served on the frontline of past epidemics. </span></p>
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">The diseases the project focused on were: polio, tuberculosis, diphtheria and measles, Spanish flu and COVID-19.</span></p>
<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> </span></p>
<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">The project grew from seed funding through the Irish Research Council and University College Cork's(UCC) College of Arts, Celtic Studies & Social Sciences. This funding enabled the team to collate material in the Cork Folklore Project's archive and create a pilot online resource. In 2022 the project was awarded an SFI Discover grant that allowed the team to undertake new bespoke interviews and grow the online dissemination platform. </span></p>
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">To date (February 2023), Catching Stories consists of XX interviews. 'Catching Stories' has also been drawn from the Cork Folklore Project Sound Archive for other related material. </span></p>
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">The project's main output is an online resource (</span><a style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" target="_blank" href="http://www.catchingstories.org" class="editor-rtfLink" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">www.catchingstories.org</span></a><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">). This website places personal oral testimonies adjacent to scientific information about the diseases. There was also a series of talks and presentations for </span><a style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" target="_blank" href="https://catchingstories.org/events/" class="editor-rtfLink" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">Heritage Week 2022, Culture Night 2022 and Science Week 2022</span></a><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">. </span></p>
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<p style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">With support from </span><a style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" target="_blank" href="https://www.ucc.ie/en/apc/" class="editor-rtfLink" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">APC Microbiome</span></a><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">, SFI and UCC's </span><a style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;" target="_blank" href="https://libguides.ucc.ie/library" class="editor-rtfLink" rel="noreferrer noopener"><span style="color:#4a6ee0;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">Boole Library,</span></a><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"> the Catching Stories team curated the interactive multimedia exhibition, </span><strong style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">Catching Stories of Infectious Disease in Ireland </span></strong><span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">(16 February - 25 June 2023), in UCC's Boole Library. The Exhibition was subsequently taken by the Heatlh Service Executive and displayed in their campuses and buildings throughout Cork and Kerry. <br /></span></p>
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2019-2023
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Interviewees: Lesley Cox; Evelyn Wainwright; Emma Conway Clarke; Michael Hussey; Paul O'Brien, James Hoare Nagle; Edward Tanner; Michael and Theresa O'Sullivan,
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Ireland; 1920s-2020s
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<strong>Website<br /></strong><br /><a href="https://catchingstories.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.catchingstories.org</a><br /><br /><img src="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/e9fc50934d016888e8a29de8e14d25d4.JPG" style="width:500px;height:250px;" alt="e9fc50934d016888e8a29de8e14d25d4.JPG" /><br /><br />Here you can engage with the collected material side by side with biomedical commentary from immunologist Dr Elizebeth Brint.
<strong>Presentation and Listening Events<br /><br />Heritage Week 2022<br /><br /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Heritage-Week-2022-Library-talk-300x169.jpg" alt="Heritage-Week-2022-Library-talk-300x169.jpg" /><br /><br /></strong>For Heritage Week project coordinator James Furey gave a presentation of the project at <span class="TextRun SCXW143901132 BCX2"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW143901132 BCX2">Cork City Library Grand Parade</span></span><strong>. <br /><br /><br />Culture Night 2022<br /><br /><img class="size-medium wp-image-407 alignnone" src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Culture-Night-2020-30-300x224.jpg" alt="Culture-Night-2020-30-300x224.jpg" /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Culture-Night-2020-6-300x224.jpg" alt="Culture-Night-2020-6-300x224.jpg" /><br /></strong><br />For Culture night the team went to the streets to set up a <span class="TextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2"><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">‘</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">t</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">ime</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">travelling’ vaccination clinic</span> <span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">outside the old medical centre on Grattan St Cork City. Willing participants sat on a bench and heard Joe Scanlon’s story of receiving the ‘Branding Iron’, </span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2">Joe’s</span><span class="NormalTextRun SCXW72442456 BCX2"> term for the vaccine apparatus used in the 1950s. Joe’s story and the event elicited a great response from those who took part.</span></span><strong><strong><br /><br /><br />Science Week 2022<br /><br /><img src="https://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Science-Week-2022-2-724x1024.png" style="width:200px;height:300px;" alt="Science-Week-2022-2-724x1024.png" /><br /></strong></strong>
<p class="font_3"><strong><span class="color_11">Celebrate Science Family Day on 13th November 2022<br /><br /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/IMG_5840-300x200.jpg" alt="IMG_5840-300x200.jpg" /><br /></span></strong></p>
<p>Our first outing for Cork Science Festival was at the ‘Celebrate Science’ Family Day at University College Cork’s Western Gateway Building. For this event, we fired up the ‘Time-machine’ to bring participants on a trip to 1958, the day Joe Scanlon received a vaccine, or as Joe calls it, <a href="https://catchingstories.org/getting-the-vaccine/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">‘The Branding Iron’</a>.</p>
<p><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/IMG_5844-300x200.jpg" alt="IMG_5844-300x200.jpg" /><br /><br />The Catching Stories team held four sessions. We played Joe’s story and quizzed our audience on their knowledge of infectious diseases and their memory of receiving vaccines. There was excellent engagement with both young and old. The younger participants left with a greater understanding of diseases like polio and tuberculosis. And the older members relayed their stories of getting vaccinated and how infectious diseases had encroached on their lives.<br /><br /><strong>Science Week Talk UCC Student Hub<br /></strong><br />Those who braved the horrendous rain on November 15th were delighted to shelter in The Shtepps to hear the presentation from James Furey and Beth Brint on how folklore and STEM can work together to bring new perspectives on health education and understanding.</p>
<strong></strong>
<strong>Exhibition<br /><br /><img src="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/d3170f22a998193439e53217786f14ea.jpg" style="width:200px;height:300px;" alt="d3170f22a998193439e53217786f14ea.jpg" /><br /><br /></strong><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">The exhibition <span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">in UCC's Boole Library </span>(<span style="color:#0e101a;background:transparent;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;">16 February - 25 June 2023), was an innovative exploration of</span> how to engage people with a topic that does not lend itself too easily to public dissemination. The exhibition foregrounded the human voice through audio installations (Made by Dr Jeffery Weeter), links to interviews, and interaction with physical objects. It invited visitors to join interviewees in the experience of manually ventilating a child with polio throughout the night in 1956 and to move along a waiting-room bench when facing vaccination by the dreaded ‘Branding Iron’ or to imagine the loss of a childhood classmate from measles. Artworks by <a href="https://lesleycoxart.com/earlier-works-3-polio-series/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lesley Cox</a> also explore the impact of polio on families and communities. </span></span><strong><br /><br /></strong><strong><br /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1676973595601-scaled.jpg" style="width:350px;height:650px;" alt="1676973595601-scaled.jpg" /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1676973595744-scaled.jpg" style="width:300px;height:650px;" alt="1676973595744-scaled.jpg" /><br /><img src="https://catchingstories.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/1676973595665-scaled.jpg" style="width:650px;height:350px;" alt="1676973595665-scaled.jpg" /><br /><br /><br /><img src="https://lesleycoxart.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/image29.jpg" style="width:350px;height:650px;" alt="image29.jpg" /></strong>(<strong>©</strong>Lesley Cox)<strong><br /></strong>
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James Furey
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project
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English
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Audio
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.wav Files
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Interviewee
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Michael O'Sullivan and Theresa O’Sullivan
Interviewer
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Susan O’Sullivan
Duration
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53m35s
Location
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Fair Hill, Cork City
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<p>*1:15</p>
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<p>Intro to family history</p>
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<p>Brother and sisters in sanatoriums for TB. Brother for 7 years, sisters for circa 2-4 years. Michael was told about 2 years ago after a chest x-ray that he probably had TB, but he was not aware of it.</p>
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<p>3:00</p>
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<p>Cont.</p>
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<p>Visiting sister in sanatorium on interviewees wedding day</p>
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<p>4:50</p>
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<p>What ages were brother and sisters when they had TB</p>
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<p>Brother 17, sisters in 20s, 30s.</p>
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<p>5:47</p>
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<p>What symptoms?</p>
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<p>Coughing up blood, constant cough</p>
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<p>6:20</p>
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<p>How was TB diagnosed?</p>
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<p>Doctor and x-ray</p>
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<p>6:45</p>
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<p>What hospital?</p>
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<p>North Infirmary</p>
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<p>*6:50</p>
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<p>What Medications?</p>
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<p>Bottle with pink/purple liquid, used for everything.</p>
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<p>7:45</p>
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<p>How were they transferred to sanatorium</p>
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<p>Ambulance</p>
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<p>*8:40</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did you know how TB was transmitted?</p>
</td>
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<p>No, was told it wasn’t contagious.</p>
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<p>*8:50</p>
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<p>Did family talk about TB?</p>
</td>
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<p>No too embarrassed, shame, linked to poverty</p>
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<p>11:00</p>
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<p>Were you aware of others in community with TB?</p>
</td>
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<p>No there was a stigma surrounding it.</p>
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<p>12:09</p>
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<p>Did you wear masks, or clean the house?</p>
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<p>No masks, but lots of scrubbing with ‘Jeyes Fluid’</p>
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<p>13:10</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>What sounds would be heard in the house?</p>
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<p>Coughing, wheezing.</p>
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<p>13:30</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did people with TB look different?</p>
</td>
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<p>Ghastly, Lethargic</p>
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<p>14:10</p>
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<p> </p>
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<p>Brother would go hunting ferrets, get cold and wet, maybe made him susceptible to TB.</p>
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<p>14:50</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did doctors visit house?</p>
</td>
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<p>Yes, didn’t wear masks</p>
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<p>*15:00</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Would people have gathered in groups outside, inside?</p>
</td>
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<p>Yes churches, cinemas and sporting events would be packed.</p>
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<p>16:10</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did priests talk about TB at mass?</p>
</td>
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<p>No never mentioned it, maybe out of fear.</p>
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<p>16:30</p>
</td>
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<p>What about the radio?</p>
</td>
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<p>Yes, Noel Browne TD minister for health. Brother had great respect for him and all that he did.</p>
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<p>17:40</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Was visiting allowed at sanatorium?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Yes, but only outside. Interviewees remember visiting sister on their wedding day</p>
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</tr>
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<p>18:20</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did your parents visit?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Yes, regularly, by taxi.</p>
</td>
</tr>
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<td>
<p>*18:44</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Cont.</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>When interviewees visited on their wedding day, the car broke down on the way.</p>
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</tr>
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<td>
<p>18:55</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Cont.</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>They had photographs taken on their wedding say at the sanatorium.</p>
</td>
</tr>
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<td>
<p>19:12</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did you visit your brother?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>No too far away (Doneraile).</p>
</td>
</tr>
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<td>
<p>*19:30</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>What did you see at the sanatoriums?</p>
</td>
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<p>People sitting about talking, in their night gowns, dressing gowns, seemed happy, some played Pitch and Putt</p>
</td>
</tr>
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<td>
<p>*</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Cont.</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>The patients were involved in craft making, dolls, leather objects. Interviewee still has leather wallet that his brother made him at Heatherside Sanatorium</p>
</td>
</tr>
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<td>
<p>20:00</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did someone teach them these crafts?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Not sure, but think someone came to sanatoriums to teach them.</p>
</td>
</tr>
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<p>21:27</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Cont.</p>
</td>
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<p>All the windows were open, lots of fresh air</p>
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<p>22:00</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Do you have an idea of how many patients were at sanatorium?</p>
</td>
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<p>No but both genders, no children.</p>
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<p>22:38</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Was there a special diet?</p>
</td>
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<p>No but they were well fed</p>
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<p>23:11</p>
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<td>
<p>It must have been difficult for parents with children at sanatorium?</p>
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<p>Yes</p>
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<p>23:35</p>
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<p>Did parents ever talk about it?</p>
</td>
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<p>No, they never talked, we were not told anything.</p>
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<p>*25:47</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Do you remember the day your brother came home?</p>
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<p>Yes remember him coming through the door, he had put on a lot of weight, didn’t recognise him, everyone was nervous.</p>
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<p>27:40</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Was he different?</p>
</td>
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<p>yes</p>
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<td>
<p>28:05</p>
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<td>
<p>Did your brother go back to work?</p>
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<p>Yes as chef in Savoy Cinema Cork, and also worked in a confectioners in Gerald Griffin Street Cork</p>
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<p>30:00</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Are there similarities with Covid 19?</p>
</td>
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<p>Yes, people are scared and avoiding each other</p>
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<p>31:24</p>
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<p> </p>
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<p>Reminded of Polio in 1950s</p>
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<p>*31:50</p>
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<p>Theresa what are your experiences of TB?</p>
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<p>Cousin Elsie was in Mount Desert Sanatorium. Theresa’s father would take her to visit Elsie, talks about country girls dying of TB at sanatorium. Elsie worked in mortuary, she was then transferred to St. Finbarr’s hospital</p>
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<p>34:45</p>
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<p>Cont.</p>
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<p>Theresa’s friend brother John was in Sarsfield’s Court sanatorium for 2 years. He never worked again after he came home, was weak and had bad chest.</p>
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<p>35:59</p>
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<td>
<p>What ages were they?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Elsie was 18, John in his 30s.</p>
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<tr>
<td>
<p>36:11</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>What do you mean by country girls?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Farmers daughters, usually from Cork and Kerry</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>36:40</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Do you remember how the buildings looked?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>There were wards and the main hospital, lots of fresh air, open windows, people sitting around talking.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>37:35</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did they ever talk about the food?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>No they never discussed food.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>38:05</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>How long were they there?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>About 2 years</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>38:16</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did Elsie lay out/prepare the dead of her own accord?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Yes of her own accord.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>38:50</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Do you remember anything about the wards, rooms?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Some patients were in rooms of 2 beds, some in ward with 4-6 beds.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>39:20</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did your parents ever talk about TB?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>No never</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>39:45</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Do you see a comparison with Covid 19? (Theresa).</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>There were no masks, but you did avoid people if they coughed, you got out of the way fast, but we were told it wasn’t contagious. Sensitisation was never mentioned.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>40:33</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did people cover their mouths when they coughed?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>No</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>40:50</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Were patients allowed to leave the sanatorium?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>No, they were confined to the grounds, a lot of the time they were dressed, in suits and ties etc. Reading books</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>41:30</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>What about exercise?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>There was no talk of exercise.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>42:50</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Cont.</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Interviewees mention a pink ointment that was often used for various illnesses, but can’t recall its name.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>43:00</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Were there any visible markings caused by TB?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Could be hunched up from coughing.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>*44:30</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did you see nurses at the sanatoriums?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Yes, dressed in white, no masks, gloves or aprons.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>45:00</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Was music played?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Yes people came in to play music, but can’t remember who.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>45:56</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Any advice for younger people today and Covid 19?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Not to smoke. Everybody smoked in 1940’s and 50s, no warnings of danger. Woodbines cigarettes.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>47:00</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did they smoke in the sanatoriums?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Outside</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>*47:30</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Cont.</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>People got relief from smoking. There were very few that didn’t smoke, Theresa’s father smoked to get relief from dust inhaled in his job as a shoemaker. Michael’s father worked in a flour mill and he would get relief from the inhaled flour by smoking.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>49:00</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Did the sisters that had TB smoke?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>No another sister did and she never contracted TB</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>*49:30</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>When did you find out that you might have had TB as a child? (Michael).</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>2 years ago. I was spitting up blood, had x-ray and doctor said lungs were scarred from TB. But I didn’t know I had TB. I had Pleurisy in the 1950s with the same symptoms.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>*50:20</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Do you think people had TB and didn’t know it?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Yes, some were afraid to go to the doctor, others didn’t wasn’t to go to doctor because they could end up in a sanatorium</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>51:00</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Cont.</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>I wonder what bloated my brother in the sanatorium. He was very heavy when he came out.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>51:30</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Maybe because he wasn’t very active there?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p> </p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p> *52:00</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Is there anything that comes to mind before we finish the interview?</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>We are lucky to have survived this long, I haven’t been sick a day in my life (Michael jokingly). We are after our Covid vaccine now and we are not doing too badly.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p>53: 34</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Thank you for doing this interview</p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Thank You, we didn’t get your name (Michael jokingly).</p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
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Michael O'Sullivan and Theresa O’Sullivan
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22.03.2021
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project
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Michael and Theresa are husband and wife and live on Fairhill on the north side of Cork city. Michael is 87 years old and Theresa is 85 years old. In this interview they both talk about their experiences of TB in Cork during the 1940s and the 1950s. In particular Michael talks about 3 siblings that contracted TB and spent time in sanatoriums. His brother spent 4 years at Heatherside Sanatorium in north Cork before being transferred to St. Finbarr’s hospital for a further 3 years. Two of Michael’s sisters spent between 2-4 years at Sarsfield Court sanatorium. Michael talks about visiting his sisters but not his brother because of distance and lack of transport. To this end he did not see his brother for 7 years. Michael talks about the emotions experienced when his brother came home. Michael talks about visiting his sister at Sarsfield sanatorium on his wedding day with his wife and talks about the car breaking down en route. Michael also talks about learning that he had TB when a chest x-ray in circa 2018 revealed scarring on his lungs reminiscent of TB. Theresa talks about her cousin Elsie who spent time in Mount Desert Sanatorium. Theresa talks about how Elsie would help to lay out the dead in the mortuary. Theresa also talks about the many young girls that died of TB at the sanatorium. During the interview the girls are referred to as country girls which Theresa explains was a term used to describe the daughters of farmers. Theresa talks about the girls catching TB from cattle on the farm. Theresa also talks about a friend called John who spent time at Sarsfields Court sanatorium with TB. When John was released home he was never able to work again due to a weak chest as a result of recurring chest infections. Michael and Theresa discuss family, community and societal attitudes towards TB. They talk about what people were told about TB and how they believed TB was transmitted. They talk about visiting the sanatoriums and the lack of social restrictions that they observed there. They talk about how fresh air was considered a treatment for TB and how the patients spent a lot of time outdoors. Michael and Theresa talk about the popularity of smoking and describe how some would find relief from breathing difficulties through smoking. Michael and Theresa conclude their interview with a discussion on the current Covid 19 pandemic and discuss the differences and similarities with the TB pandemic of the 1940s and the 1950s.
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Tuberculosis
blood
Cattle
Cigarettes
Cork city
Coughing
Covid 19
Doctor
Fairhill
Handcrafts
Heatherside Sanatrium
Leather
Michael O’ Sullivan
Mortuary
Mount Desert Sanatorium
Noel Browne
North Infirmary Hospital
Pleurisy
Polio
preparing the dead
Priest
Sanatorium
Sarsfield Court Sanatorium
smoking
St. Finbarr’s Hospital
Theresa O’ Sullivan
Tuberculosis (TB)
Woodbines
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<p>Grattan Street Stories: Memory of Place</p>
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Occupational Lore; Life History; Built Heritage; Health; Ireland; Cork; Middle Parish
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<p>This collection focuses on a building on Grattan Street which has served as a Quaker Meeting House, a public Dispensary and as the Grattan Street Health Centre. The project was a collaboration between the CFP and the Cork North Community Work Department, Cork Kerry Community Healthcare, Health Services Executive HSE. </p>
<p>The interviewees fall into two main groups: those who worked in the building and those who lived in the surrounding area and availed of the services provided in the building.</p>
<p>This project follows on from the collaboration with the HSE in the “<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>”. There is a further connection between the two projects as many of the staff and services once provided in the Grattan Street Health Centre have now relocated to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. This topic of the relocation of services is also covered in some staff interviews. <br /><br />To date (October 2021) 13 interviews have been completed for the project.<br /><br />Interviewees discuss the Grattan Street building itself in terms of its historic significance, its benefits and drawbacks as a workplace. Broader themes related to or inspired by the building are also touched on including: personal relationship with the building, staff camaraderie, the problems with parking, memorable incidents at work, patient experiences and descriptions of the people and services for which the building catered.<br /><br />Healthcare professional interviewees detail their training, career progression and comparisons between Grattan Street and other workplaces. Their testimonies also provide a link with the community of patients they served giving further insight into attitudes to healthcare, diseases, vaccines, description of social conditions and the changes in medicine and technology in their working lives.<br /><br />Non-healthcare professional interviewees describe childhood experiences in or around Grattan Street (The Marsh or The Middle Parish), the social, cultural and economic conditions of the area, tenements, businesses, attitudes to and experiences of healthcare, vaccines, diseases, medicines and medical professionals as well as observed changes in these areas over time.<br /><br />Interviewees also reflect on the possible future uses of the Grattan Street building.<br /><br /><strong>Related Reference Sources</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Barrington, R.<em> (</em>1987) <em>Health, medicine and politics in Ireland, 1900–1970</em>. Dublin: Institute of Public Administration.</li>
<li><span>Butler D.M. (2004) <em>The Quaker meeting houses of Ireland</em></span>. Dublin : Irish Friends Historical Committee.</li>
<li><span>Byrne, J. (2004) <em>Byrne's dictionary of Irish local history.</em> Cork: Mercier Press.</span></li>
<li>Cooke, R. T. (1999) <em>My Home by the Lee</em>. Irish Millennium Publications: Cork.</li>
<li><span>Dempsey, P. J. & White, L. W. ‘Childers, Erskine Hamilton’. <em>Dictionary of Irish Biography</em> </span>[Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Harrison, R.S. (1991) <em>Cork City Quakers 1655-1939: A Brief History</em>. Cork.</li>
<li>Houston, M. (2004). ‘Life before the GP’. <em>The</em> <em>Irish Times. </em>Available at : <<a href="https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599">https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/life-before-the-gp-1.1158599</a> > [Accessed 18 October 2021]</li>
<li>Keohane, F. (2020) <em>The Buildings of Ireland Cork City and County</em>. New Haven and London: Yale University Press.</li>
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2019-2020
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<p>Interviewees: Edith O’Regan, 'Mary', Sean Higgisson, Aoife O’Brien, Eileen Kearney, Imelda Cunning, Jane Ward, Liam Ó hUigín, Joe Scanlan, Mary Mulcahy, Philomena Cassidy, Don Morrissy, Derek O’Connell</p>
<p>Interviewer: <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a>, (<a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a>)</p>
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<p>Cork, Ireland 1940s-2020s; Waterford, Ireland; Dublin, Ireland; Limerick, Ireland;</p>
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<p><strong>Exhibition</strong></p>
<p>Artist Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave (also an interviewee for the project) created a visual artwork based around the Grattan Street Medical Centre building itself, as a workplace and health centre. The artwork incorporated direct quotations from the oral history interviews conducted for the project, and also included brief historical paragraphs about the building researched, written and edited by the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy. This exhibition was launched on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 in “St Peter’s” on the North Main Street where a “Listening Event” was also held to mark the occasion.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:10%;"><br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" alt="Grattan-Poster-for-Email-286-by-400.jpg" /><br /><br /></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:10%;"></p>
<p><strong>Presentation and Listening Event</strong></p>
<p>To coincide with the launch of the Grattan Street Stories Exhibtion on 6<sup>th</sup> February 2020 a listening event and presentation of the history of the Grattan Street Medical Centre building and description of the project was given by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/427A7714-1.jpg" alt="427A7714-1.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Presentation</strong></p>
<p>In 2019 at the OHNI conference the <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy discussed social media and oral history which included audio excerpts from the Grattan Street Stories Project along with photographs of the building.</p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:150%;"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" alt="Kieran-OHNI-e1634041838937.jpg" /></p>
<p><strong>Audio Visual Presentation</strong></p>
<p>An audio-visual slideshow was produced featuring oral testimony from the Grattan Street Stories Project and combined with suitable images of Grattan Street and from Edith O’Regan-Cosgrave’s exhibition. This was created by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/community-oral-history-outreach-officer/">CFP Community Oral History Outreach Officer</a> Kieran Murphy.<br /><br /></p>
<p class="western" style="margin-bottom:0cm;line-height:10%;"><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></p>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnjEtQeOb3I&t=1s&ab_channel=CorkFolklore" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Audio Visual Presentation Available to listen and view here.</a>
<p><strong>Health and Vaccines Oral History Research<br /></strong><br />Many of the interviews conducted for the Grattan Street project formed an integral part of the testimonies and research for the innovative<br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">'Catching Stories'<span> </span>of infectious disease in Ireland </a>project funded by the Irish Research Council.<br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/health/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><img src="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" alt="Catching-Stories-Poster.jpg" /></a></p>
<strong>Social Media</strong> <br /><br />Numerous suitable audio excerpts from the oral history interviews have been edited and shared on CFP's social media channels.<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1139167201582288901</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1140909542240391168</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1141264486768238592</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1189872295923376133</a><br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://twitter.com/corkfolklore/status/1228322700415860736</a>
<strong>Orthopaedic Hospital</strong><br />Cork Folklore Project in collaboration with the HSE conducted an oral history project focussing on the Orthapaedic Hospital in Gurranabraher. <br /><br /><span>Many of the staff and services once provided at the Grattan Street Health Centre site were moved to St. Mary's Health Campus (St Mary’s Primary Care Centre) Gurranabraher, the former site of the Orthopaedic Hospital. </span><br /><br /><a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/collections/show/10" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HSE Orthopaedic Hospital Oral History Project (d'Orthopaedic)</a>
<strong>Swimming Article</strong><br /><br />Kieran Murphy and James Furey co-authored an article about<br /><a href="https://tripeanddrisheen.substack.com/p/swim-city?s=r" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Swimming in Cork</a> which appeared in the online magazine Tripe + Drisheen. This article features a number of interview extracts collected as part of the Grattan Street Stories Project.
<strong>Related Interviews<br /><br /></strong>CFP_SR00756_Quilligan_2019;<br />CFP_SR00758_Broderick_2019;<br />CFP_SR00670_OShea_2018;<strong><br /><br /></strong>
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
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Cork Folklore Project
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English
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Audio
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16 .wav Files
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Interviewee
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Joe Scanlan
Interviewer
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Kieran Murphy
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88 Minutes 55 Seconds
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Middle Parish Community Centre, Grattan Street
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.wav
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<td>
<p><strong>0.00.00 - 0.00.30</strong></p>
</td>
<td>
<p>Intro</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p><strong>0.00.30 - 0.01.41</strong></p>
</td>
<td>
<p><strong>Memories of dispensary and Vaccination</strong></p>
<p>Dispensary was a beautiful looking building especially as it was surrounded by tenements.</p>
<p>Barrett family were caretakers. 6 GPs worked there and remembers 4: Dr Galvin (low-sized woman), Dr Jimmy Young (who played hurling for Cork), Dr Kiely (male), Dr Michael Cagney his family’s GP, delivered him and his brother at home. Waiting room was like church seats. His mother usually brought with him.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p><strong>0.01.41 - 0.06.06</strong></p>
</td>
<td>
<p><strong>Vaccination in the Dispensary Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Vaccination: his dad brought him. Front door was in Grattan Street. Queue of boys outside. None of the boys who came out looked happy, they all suffered from the fear and pain. Joe was about 8 years old. Instrument doctor had was like a branding iron for cattle or a bolt. The needle was the size of a nail. Dad held his wrist and arm very tight. His dad brought him for ice-cream afterwards.</p>
<p>When he was 12 there was another round of vaccines and he was determined not to take them until he discovered they were like sugar cubes not needles.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p><strong>0.06.06 - 0.09.24</strong></p>
</td>
<td>
<p><strong>Fleas and Head Lice treatment</strong></p>
<p>Everyone had fleas and headlice, but some of his friends still deny that they had it possibly out of shame. Everyone left their doors open, as they had nothing to rob. Dads got paid on Friday night and there was a small party at the weekend- raspberry and crisps in the pub.</p>
<p>Went to the dispensary to get prescription for head lice.</p>
<p>When mother cut his hair she put it in newspaper and threw it in fire and you could hear fleas and lice banging. “Scabs and bits of hair here and there” You could see dead fleas and lice on the back of other boys collars in school.</p>
<p>DDT “defestor” Mrs Shinnick? Pharmacist gave them a green bottle which smelled. The liquid burned the scalp. Fine tooth comb to get the dead lice out. The smell would last for hours. And in school the following day people would recognise it and know you had had lice.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p><strong>0.09.24 - 0.10.53</strong></p>
</td>
<td>
<p><strong>Smoking Doctor trying to get him to give up smoking</strong></p>
<p>Dr Jimmy Young (or maybe Dr Cagney) moved to a private clinic on the South Mall. Joe was smoking as a young teenager. If he was caught a neighbour would kick him in the arse before telling his dad. His dad never hit him but would put his hands on his belt which was sufficient threat. Dad brought him to Dr Young to be told how bad smoking was. And while he was telling Joe to give up cigarettes he was smoking a Woodbine cigarette at the time. People smoked everywhere except church.</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
<p><strong>0.10.53 - 0.12.07</strong></p>
</td>
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<p><strong>Dared to ask Garda for a cigarette</strong></p>
<p>Doesn’t drink or smoke now. Had to take a dare when asked by a friend. Friend dared him to ask a Garda for a cigarette. Garda kicked him in the arse. Walked like John Wayne for a week!</p>
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<p><strong>0.12.07 - 0.15.30</strong></p>
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<p><strong>‘Kick the Bucket’: hypochondriac ‘character’ in Dispensary </strong></p>
<p>A head cold was serious at times. Practically impossible to get a house call from a doctor. So they would be bundled up in sheets like a mummy and transported to the dispensary. Mother saw a man in the waiting room nicknamed “Kick the Bucket” because he was a hypochondriac convinced he was going to die soon.</p>
<p>Joe saw him as he got older and went to the doctor on his own. Kick the Bucket died at 81 and the news spread faster than the fire at the Opera House or Jennings.</p>
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<p><strong>0.15.30 - 0.15.46</strong></p>
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<p><strong>End of Dispensary</strong></p>
<p>After a while doctors got their private surgeries and A&Es accident and Emergencies opened. The dispensary sort of dwindled out.</p>
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<p><strong>0.15.46 - 0.16.42</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Grattan Street injuries Playing as Children</strong></p>
<p>Lots of memories from around Grattan Street area. Born on Devonshire Street near Pat MacDonald Paints, and there was a big population living in the Marsh. More than 100 children playing on the streets around Peter Street and Grattan Street. Alleyways, where car parks are now, there were their soccer pitches. They counted 120 potholes in their soccer pitch, big enough to fall knee deep into. If you fell in you could twist an ankle or break a leg. Friends would lift you out of the way of the pitch but you had to crawl to the Mercy Hospital yourself because the match had to go on.</p>
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<p><strong>0.16.42 - 0.18.59</strong></p>
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<p><strong><span>Battles and fights with rival groups of boys</span></strong></p>
<p><span>Their rivals were the Coal Quay boys. Saturday evening they would raid the Coal Quay for the left over rotten fruit. They had timber palettes set up as a barricade and after 12 o’clock mass on a Sunday the Coal Quay boys would come. (had to go to mass otherwise someone would tell the Presentation Brother or you parents. Joe did miss a few) Battering match would start. Rotten apples. Soggy bananas. Tomatoes were the best. No stones. Whoever ran out of ammunition first you had to run away. 30 guys running down Coleman’s Lane would be easy targets. But the Marsh lads could spread out on Grattan Street. </span></p>
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<p><strong>0.18.59 - 0.24.29</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Halloween skull as Jack O Lantern from Tomb in St Peters</strong></p>
<p>There was no real fighting just wrestling. Maybe some fighting with firsts. No kicking someone in the head. Boxing with community centre against Mitchelstown. Joe couldn’t hit a small boxer and they had to stop the fight.</p>
<p>Around the same time it was Halloween in St Peter’s graveyard all the tombs and headstones were in the centre not along the side. They were able to get into the tombs and went in with a match and were surrounded by bones in the dark. Didn’t need pumpkins they decided they would get a nightlight scandal, buy matches from Mr Barry and get a skull from the tomb and scares girls.</p>
<p>Heard something moving in the tomb one night. His dad was a postman and he had a big torch but Joe could never find it when he wanted it.</p>
<p>Always bring cigarette butts out of the tomb. Used safety pins to get the most out of the cigarette.</p>
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<p><strong>0.24.29 - 0.26.24</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Cigarettes and getting money from empty bottles</strong></p>
<p>8pm in the evening and at 8am the doctors and surgeons left or arrived at the Mercy Hospital, and they could’ve smoked in their offices at the time. Doctors sometimes threw away a cigar butt. Sometimes the children followed a doctor for 10 minutes and he might not throw the butt away! As they got older they went to Mr Barry’s shop and could get 2 fags (cigarettes) and a match for an empty bottle of Lucozade, which they could get from the Mercy Hospital. All the glasses were returnable at the time. They decided to take more bottles. 2 bottles would get you 4p four pence and you could go to the pictures (cinema) for 3p thruppence (three pence) and have money left over for cigarettes and a match. Tanora bottles from Jennings.</p>
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<p><strong>0.26.24 - 0.31.03</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Fishing for Money trouble with the Bailiff</strong></p>
<p>Dermot’s Cake shop on Adelaide street best cakes and creamy milks straight form the cow.</p>
<p>Decided to take up poaching to get some money. Lots of mullet and salmon in the river at the time. Was rarely caught poaching because he could plank (hide) them at home within a few seconds. Sold them to Burns on Douglas Street, the Uptown Grill in MacCurtain Street (which must have lasted 60 years) the woman there said to bring over any more because they’re so fresh the blood is still hot in them! </p>
<p>Mr Hurley the bailiff caught him occasionally and took his fishing rod and reported him to his mother and tell her to send Joe over to collect his fishing rod. He’d ask which rod was his in a room full of confiscated rods. Joe’s was the cheapest “Black Prince” but he’d get a more expensive one. Needed money for cinema and chips. Best two chippers: Hayden’s on Shandon Street and Kiely’s on Maylor Street. Wrapped in newspaper, lots of vinegar and salt. Tastiest part was to squeeze the vinegar out of the newspaper even with the dye running in it.</p>
<p>Slogging apples down the Mardyke selling to woman Dooney Dawney.</p>
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<p><strong>0.31.03 - 0.34.24</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Money & Sweets: Selling fishing Rod & tricking shopkeeper</strong></p>
<p>Sold the rod for money to an angler and bought a cheap rod again. He was a well-known angler on the Lee. Good anglers and fairly good anglers but luck plays a big part. Ahern sisters owned a shop a Sheare Street (Sheares Street). Penny bars and sweets ‘blackjack’, ‘cough no more’, ‘macaroon’ (Erinmore tobacco). Asked for penny bar that was up high so she would have to climb up and they would take a bar from the lower shelf. They once took it in turns to ask how much a bar was even thought they were all a penny and she eventually banned them all for life from the shop. It took them a year or two to get back on good terms. </p>
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<p><strong>0.34.24- 0.35.55</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Safety of City in Past, Making floats for fishing, Social & Income Inequality</strong></p>
<p>Never any trouble when growing up. Joe’s 2<sup>nd</sup> eldest son is 38 lives on Northside, daughter on the southside and eldest son still lives in the Marsh. His children would say the Marsh was a great place to rear children.</p>
<p>Where the Woolshed Bar [on Sheares Street] is now used to be Woodford Bournes the wine makers. And on the corner Paddy worked the guillotine to make ‘the corkies’ corks for the wine bottles for Woodford Bournes. Joe’s dad was a friend of Paddy & “they used have a drink together”. Joe would go to Paddy for bits of cork to make floats for fishing. He would bore a hole through the cork for the fishing line. “so we got everything for nothing”. Even got clothes from Coal Quay for very little. Some of his friends deny that they ever wore clothes from the Coal Quay. Joe thinks there was no in between either you were rich or you were poor.</p>
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<p><strong>0.35.55 - 0.36.45</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Story of Man with nothing worth stealing</strong></p>
<p>Remembers old man second-next-door-neighbour and there was someone prowling around his house. He had nothing worth stealing only a transistor radio which everyone had so there was no one to sell it to. This neighbour shouted out “come on in if you want something. I have nothing and you’re welcome to half of that!”</p>
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<p><strong>0.36.45 - 0.38.50</strong></p>
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<p><strong>The Marsh today: Families vs Students</strong></p>
<p>Joe’s son Michael would still love to raise his children in the Marsh area, even with the volume of traffic.</p>
<p>Joe thinks the Grattan Street area cannot take anymore offices or traffic. He says that the HSE have many of the buildings.</p>
<p>Joe is lucky as he owns his own house. Married a Coal Quay girl Breda Dineen.</p>
<p>There are plans to build student accommodation with 350 rooms on Grattan Street where the Munster Furniture and Hardware was. Joe says he will sell up and leave the parish if that is built. It will break his heart to do it but he can’t put up with any more.</p>
<p>Talks about Edel House being discussed on the radio. And thinks there were a lot of “undesirables” in there. In recent times they were warned to behave themselves on the streets and Joe thinks that they do. He thinks that as well as genuine cases there are people looking for houses.</p>
<p>Joe would like the HSE to take some buildings further out in areas like Montenotte, Model Farm Road and the Lee Road. He thinks that people who work for the HSE live in these places so won’t choose them for buildings to provide services. As a result buildings and services are put in the city centre.</p>
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<p><strong>0.38.50 - 0.40.25</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Shawlies and booming trade on Coal Quay</strong></p>
<p>South Main Street, Castle Street, North Main Street when he was a child was booming.</p>
<p>Joe’s grandmother was a shawlie. Joe’s wife re-enacts the shawlies. Joe remembers vermin everywhere on Coal Quay especially on Monday morning. Near where Bodega is now where Clayton Love’s used to be, the Loft Carpet is there now shawlies could trade in there too. You could trade indoors but you paid more to be out of the rain than trading outside. Joe’s grandmother traded under the clock and only sold fish- mackerel and apples. You’d be surprised how many ‘lords and ladies’ would buy their fruit and veg in the Coal Quay because it was fresh with mud still on the cabbage brought in by farmers on horse and cart.</p>
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<p><strong>0.40.25- 0.41.15</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Ryan’s Pub on North Main Street and sleeping Farmers</strong></p>
<p>Mary Ryans bar many people went in there in the mornings for a ‘pick me up’ to keep warm. Farmers would abandon the horse and cart to go in there. Most horses would know their way home even if the farmer had too many “nips of Powers”. The farmer would fall asleep in the back of the cart and wake up in Blarney or Ovens. Joe would jump on the back of the cart without the farmer knowing and go out the Carrigrohane Straights which was the countryside then. Then they might swim in the Lee Fields sometimes in their clothes. ‘We were young, foolish but happy’.</p>
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<p><strong>0.41.15 - 0.42.05</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Food, Shoes and the Pawn</strong></p>
<p>Weren’t getting T-bone steaks at home. But they had potatoes, vegetables and homemade skull (bread). Was never hungry. Mother would get remnants of lino from the Munster Furniture and Hardware and cut them for insoles for their shoes. They had good shoes for going to mass which you had to take off straight away at home to be sent to Jones’s Pawn on the end of Shandon Street. </p>
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<p><strong>School Violence and good teacher</strong></p>
<p>Hated St Joseph’s School because always got kicked in the ankle or had his toe stepped on or a clatter on the back of the ear for not being able to spell. Left there and went to St Francis School and the entrance was from North Main Street by Bradley’s Supermarket or by Broad Lane beyond the dispensary.</p>
<p>Learned more in last two years in St Francis from lay teachers than he did from St Joseph. Teachers may have scolded them but never hit them. “Anything you don’t understand ask me” the teacher told them. Joe was watching the clock for when to leave, and watching the tides to know when the tides were bringing back the fish. </p>
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<p><strong>0.43.30 - 0.44.50</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Changes in the Marsh for families: safety & shopping</strong></p>
<p>Joe’s son would love to live in the Marsh to rear his children. Couldn’t let them run around on the street with the traffic. But they would have Fitzgerald’s Park and close to Mercy Hospital. 5 minutes from 3 different supermarkets. Sometimes hear people singing or shouting coming back from the pub. The neighbours come to watch. Only incident he remembers in 36 years is that a few car mirrors were broken. Grattan Street is off the beaten track despite Washington Street being so close.</p>
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<p><strong>0.44.50 - 0.46.15</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Food or not at School</strong></p>
<p>Not given food in St Francis School but given food in St Joseph’s in the morning “to toughen you up for the beating you would get in the afternoon”. Cocoa and creamy buns in the morning. A few years later they cut back to scones which weren’t the same!</p>
<p>One time Joe didn’t get cocoa and a bun because his dad had gotten a promotion. And it upset Joe that all his friends got it.</p>
<p>At the age of 10 or 11 he was in St Francis “the Rowdy Boys College”. St Peter and Pauls School was before Joe’s time.</p>
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<p><strong>0.46.15 - 0.48.17</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Food and Cooking</strong></p>
<p>Homemade skull or loaf of bread. His mother would make the bread. And nine times out of ten it would turn out right. the Hills were the biggest population of their aunts and cousins. Across the road from them was nanny Hill. Joe would get his dessert there. For school lunch he’d go home and get a sandwich with soup in the winter and diluted raspberry. Cheese sandwich- “poor man’s meat”. Very lucky to get a ham and cheese sandwich. When going back to school he would pause outside his house no 9 Devonshire Street. Across the road was 34 Nanny Hill’s house and she would bring over the heel of homemade skull plastered with blackcurrant jam which he’d eat on the way back to St Joseph’s on the ‘Dyke [Mardyke] only 5 minutes’ walk, but took him 10 or 15 minutes because he didn’t want to be punctual. He would get a punch from a brother for having a ring of jam around his lips.</p>
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<p><strong>0.48.17 - 0.49.40</strong></p>
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<p><strong>School beating by Presentation Brother and boy’s father’s revenge</strong></p>
<p>There is a [Presentation] brother who is now married and living in Grange with a son and daughter. Joe would call him names if he ever met him again. A friend of Joe’s spent three nights in the Mercy Hospital after a beating from this brother. He made him take down his trousers until he only had his Y-front underwear on and beat him there with a four-foot bamboo cane. He was lying on his belly in the Mercy.</p>
<p>There’s a black fire escape in St Joseph’s which is still there. The father of that boy had the brother hanging over the fire escape. People were screaming. And Joe and others were hoping that he would drop him.</p>
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<p><strong>0.49.40 - 0.51.39</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Relief after school, Priest Friend assisting the Marsh Community</strong></p>
<p>Joe’s life began when he left that school because the fear was gone. He was able to concentrate in school then. In St Joseph’s the teacher was only interested in teaching 4 or 5 smart guys and the rest were punch bags. When Joe was 21 he had as good a job as any of his peers. The brothers were sadists he says. Thinks it took 5 years to become a priest and 7 to become a brother. They were young men who had never seen life and mostly put there by their parents.</p>
<p>A retired priest, friend of Joe’s, ‘an t-athair Ó Murchú’ who was the priest in St Peter and Paul’s and is now in Belgooley. Joe goes down to him once a week on a Sunday and they bring him a creamy cake. When people were fighting for things in the parish he supported them, even when they weren’t agreeing with the HSE. The car park where Munster Furniture is the HSE were talking about putting a multi-storey car park there 30 years ago which was diverted to Dunnes Stores Car Park.</p>
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<p><strong>0.51.39 - 0.53.03</strong></p>
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<p><strong>The Marsh Community object to multi-storey carpark</strong></p>
<p>People in the Marsh chained themselves across Grattan Street to stop trucks coming in to build a multi-storey car park. But they told the Gardaí in advance so they were on their side and they had no trouble. Joe knew the sergeant well and they used advise them the best way to have a peaceful protest and yet stop everything.</p>
<p>Joe has many other memories but feels a little bit under pressure because of the recorder.</p>
<p>Other things that they did ‘fighting for their rights’ because they could see offices and buildings going up that they opposed.</p>
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<p><strong>0.53.03 - 0.58.30</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Problems with multi-storey car park and Student Accommodation in the Marsh</strong></p>
<p>Was in a meeting with the Council and Paul Moynihan from City Hall explained what was happening. The council own so much of the car park and building to right of Munster Furniture and Hardware. So if the council don’t sell these to the new developers there won’t be enough room for the student accommodation. Joe doesn’t have anything against students but object to their parties which have aged some local residents. Thinks in the past students didn’t behave how they do now.</p>
<p>Joe & his wife decided they’d leave if the student accommodation is built, they don’t mind whether they go to the northside or to the southside, but somewhere on a bus route or somewhere near the city. Joe says he’s getting emotional because he always swore that he would die in the Marsh.</p>
<p>Joe would like to see a small 5 or 6 storey hotel being built instead and there’s space for coaches. Or family housing being built.</p>
<p>They named out other places where student accommodation could be built eg. The Good Shepherd building across from the Lee Fields and Joe was told the students would have so far to walk because they would be high-end students.</p>
<p>Joe says the students behave like riff-raff when they are drunk.</p>
<p>He was told the accommodation would have security.</p>
<p>Joe knows one of the security men for the student accommodation on Lancaster Quay and they are behaved inside the complex but outside there is no control.</p>
<p>Joe fears that students will be drinking in doorways in the Marsh or outside on tables which are being built for them to study on. Joe said that if they are 320 high-end students they will have cars and nowhere to park them, and they will have more money for alcohol. So Joe said the riff-raff students would be better!</p>
<p>Joe can’t believe a walk from St Anne’s to UCC is too far. </p>
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<p><strong>Sicknesses past and changes now</strong></p>
<p>People died from diseases which no one knew what caused them. Some diseases that were killing people have simple cures now.</p>
<p>Joe is more concerned about sicknesses today including insects like ticks and leeches.</p>
<p>They would go to the dispensary for medication and prescription. If anything was too serious they would send you to the A&E but first get you to sign a form saying you had visited him so that he could get paid. </p>
<p>Lots of measles. Chickenpox. Mumps used to be a killer disease especially for men as it could make you impotent.</p>
<p>If you went to get medication from the Dispensary you had to bring your own empty bottle. Completely different attitude from doctors now. Might have been given tablets even if there was nothing wrong with you.</p>
<p>People who were sent to St Anne’s because of a drinking/ alcohol problem for a few weeks but never came out.</p>
<p>Joe didn’t get a clip in the ear growing up but he did do it for his children.</p>
<p>Joe used to drink and just wanted to sleep after it. He thinks that women today wouldn’t take the abuse that women used to put up with.</p>
<p>One man who went to St Anne’s was signed out by his niece years later and he was afraid of the double-decker bus and went back in of his free will to St Anne’s.</p>
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<p><strong>1.04.41 - 1.06.53</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Issues with HSE Services in the city Centre</strong></p>
<p>Joe hopes HSE look elsewhere for offices rather than in the city centre.</p>
<p>Methodone clinics around Cork Joe was told need to be in the city because they won’t travel for it which means it needs to be near Grattan Street.</p>
<p>There’s a Community Garda. But Joe and his wife have not seen a Garda on the beat for three weeks.</p>
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<p><strong>1.06.53 - 1.09.04</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Work of the Middle Parish Community Centre </strong></p>
<p>Joe and others including George [Patterson] do their best to keep the Middle Parish Community Centre going.</p>
<p>Narcotics anonymous rent out a room upstairs. Alcoholics Anonymous, Gamblers Anonymous. There’s been no vandalism.</p>
<p>Joe saw a man he knew going to Narcotics Anonymous outside La Verna near St Francis Church and he shook his hand because he was proud of him for trying to give up.</p>
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<p><strong>1.09.04 - 1.26.27</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Experiences as an alcoholic and trying to give up</strong></p>
<p>Joe describes himself as a “dry alcoholic”. Joe hasn’t drunk for six years. He didn’t realise he had a drink problem because he was never aggressive or barred from anywhere.</p>
<p>It took Joe years to realise he was unable to home after work without first going to the pub. And that he was having a few pints in a number of bars and that this was adding up to ten pints a night. He decided eventually that he would stop. If someone had told him that he had a drink problem he would have been “highly insulted” and thought he could stop drinking any time he wanted.</p>
<p>He went to a few AA meetings and they didn’t suit him.</p>
<p>He used to smoke 55/60 cigarettes a day while driving articulated trucks long distance for 35 years all over Ireland. He gave up cigarettes and thought it would be easier to give up alcohol.</p>
<p>Ten years ago he gave up alcohol for 2 years. Alcoholics’ Anonymous saying is ‘one day at a time’. He was down in Inchydoney Hotel with his family and dogs. He was tired after lots of driving to Dublin, Wicklow and delivering salt to Killybegs. He kept track of his progress being off alcohol and appreciated the support of his wife.</p>
<p>He went into the hotel and had some coke. The Munster Final was on. While waiting at a busy bar for more Coke he saw two men he knew drinking stout. And he ordered a pint of Murphys stout after he saw them. He made ten attempts to leave the pint there, but it overpowered him. He had a devil on one shoulder and a guardian angel on the other. He usually drank a pint in four sups. He went close to the toilet for his first sup in case he was sick from not being used to drinking after two years. He ordered a half-pint of Murphys. He felt fairly content because he felt he could handle the alcohol now.</p>
<p>He had two pints of Beamish in Forde’s with a friend of his on a Friday. And slowly he was having more pints and on Wednesdays as well as Fridays until “the drink had a hold of me again”. He knew he couldn’t handle whiskey. Collapsed three times due to liver poisoning.</p>
<p>He had to come home from Turkey when he collapsed, his doctor said they saved his life. He wasn’t allowed to eat or drink for 4 days.</p>
<p>His GP was waiting for him at midnight when he arrived home in Cork and brought him to the Mercy. He told Joe he was lucky because his liver function was only at 52% working. It took 17 hours for his liver to get to 53% working.</p>
<p>After a few weeks he started drinking again. He collapsed at home one morning unconscious for 20 seconds. GP took tests. Went to the Regional Hospital and put in intensive care. Dr Seamus O’Mahony was his liver specialist out there. Seamus told him not to waste his time if he was going to keep drinking and not to come to him without his wife because she would tell the truth about his drinking.</p>
<p>Doctor asked him how many units he drank and Joe asked to speak in pints not units. Joe said 20 pints. The doctor said that’s a lot to have in a week. And Joe’s wife said that’s on a Saturday! Two drinking sessions on a Saturday.</p>
<p>He was getting liver function tests on a regular basis and his liver was getting stronger.</p>
<p>Joe used to give up alcohol two days before going to the doctor but didn’t realise that alcohol makes triglycerides in the body which take days to be broken down.</p>
<p>Joe used drink cans of beer at home when his wife was away. He would vomit it up after two ‘slugs’ or gulps. And then he would try to drink it again. </p>
<p>He said that you have to admit it to yourself that you have a problem. He realised that if he didn’t stop he wouldn’t see his five grand-children grow up.</p>
<p>He has never been happier than he is now sober. His children can ring him at any time for a lift. And his children can depend on him.</p>
<p>Joe still takes one day at a time.</p>
<p>Joe knew a guy who was 33 years sober and he went to London and started drinking and was knocked down by a bus.</p>
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<p><strong>Family living in the Dispensary building Grattan Street</strong></p>
<p>Barrett family who lived in the Dispensary had children who are still alive living in southside who would be older than him. “they were all genuine down to earth people”. To the left of where the marriage registrar is now is where they lived. On the right hand side was an old lady sitting in a box like a phone box cut in half. And she would take people’s details as they entered. The double doors to the clinic were closed. The Barrett sons went to St Joseph’s School as well. </p>
<p>Joe jokes about a previous interview I had with a friend of his Liam O hUiginn, and jokingly says he’s a very old man. Joe also apologises again for not being used to “speaking in public” pointing at the digital recorder.</p>
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Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive
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Cork Folklore Project
Language
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English
Type
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Sound
Format
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Audio
Date
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25 July 2019
Creator
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Cork Folklore Project
Description
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<p><span>Joe recalls the dispensary on Grattan Street, its waiting room and the names of the doctors who worked there. He describes in detail his visit there to get a vaccination as a child. Discusses medical treatments administered at home by his mother including those for fleas and head lice. </span></p>
<p><span>Recalls as a teenager being told by a doctor who was smoking to give up smoking. Comments on how widespread smoking was at the time. Humorous story about asking a Garda for a cigarette. </span></p>
<p><span>Story of Cork character ‘Kick the Bucket’, a young man who was convinced he was going to die very soon but lived to be 81.</span></p>
<p><span>Speaks of playing on the streets of The Marsh and The Middle Parish as a child and how they would go to the Mercy Hospital if they were injured playing football. Describes rival groups of boys from Grattan Street and the Coal Quay having fruit throwing fights. </span></p>
<p><span>Describes how as a child he used a skull from a tomb in St Peter’s Cemetery to use as a Jack O Lantern. Returns to the topic of underage smoking and acquiring cigarettes from adults. </span></p>
<p><span>Explains a form of recycling where he collected empty glass bottles to return to a shop in exchange for money. He used the money for cigarettes and matches or to pay for a cinema ticket. Recalls Dermot’s Cake shop on Adelaide Street.</span></p>
<p><span>Talks about his passion for fishing, avoiding the bailiff and selling his fish catch to local fish and chip shops. Tells of his fishing rob being confiscated by the bailiff and retrieving it. </span></p>
<p><span>Mentions children taking sweets from a shop on Sheares Street without paying for them. </span></p>
<p><span>Discusses income inequality and buying clothes on the Coal Quay. Explains how he made floats for fishing from wine bottle corks made by his dad’s friend for Woodford Bourne’s on Sheares Street.</span></p>
<p><span>Reflects on crime and safety in the city centre and tells the story of a house being burgled where the owner shouted out that he had nothing worth stealing.</span></p>
<p><span>Outlines some long standing Grattan Street residents’ concerns about their neighbourhood today including students, student parties, students drinking on the street, cark parks, bus routes, student accommodation, Edel House, increased traffic, methodone clinics, community Gardaí and the HSE’s use of buildings in the city centre.</span></p>
<p><span>Remembers Shawlies on the Coal Quay, including his own grandmother. Describes the products sold there and farmers bringing vegetables with dirt on them by horse and cart. Mentions Ryan’s Pub on North Main Street and how the farmers might frequent it.</span></p>
<p><span>Speaks of the simple food and meals he ate, and how his shoes were pawned but bought back in time to wear for mass.</span></p>
<p><span>Recalls the violence and fear of St Joseph’s School and wanting to leave to go fishing. Speaks of his preference for St. Francis School where he was not beaten and learned a lot. Outlines getting food and cocoa in the morning at school. Tells the story of a father confronting a Presentation Brother for an excessive beating to his son. </span></p>
<p><span>Talks about food and his mother making bread and mentions other foods and treats from his grandmother.</span></p>
<p><span>Speaks about fatal diseases in the past including mumps. To receive medication in the dispensary you had to bring your own empty bottle. </span></p>
<p><span>Speaks about the work of the Middle Parish Community Centre especially in relation to addiction. This prompts Joe to speak of his own story of dealing with his alcohol addiction, the risks alcohol posed to his health, liver disease, his desire to see his grandchildren grow up and his happiness now he has successfully remained sober for many years.</span></p>
<p><span>Mentions the Barrett family who lived in the dispensary building.</span></p>
Accommodation
Addiction
Adelaide Street
Alcohol
Alcoholics Anonymous
Alcoholism
Alleys
Angler
Angling
Animals
Anti-Social Behaviour
Asylum
Bailiff
Bar
bars
boys fighting
Bread
Building
Built Heritage
Car
Car Park
Caretaker
Carpark
Cars
Cart
Cemetery
Characters
Childhood
Children
Children’s Games
Chipper
Chippers
Chips
Cigarettes
Cinema
City Centre
Clothes
Coal Quay
Cocoa
Coleman’s Lane
Community
Cooking
Cork Characters
Corporal Punishment
Crime
Dermot’s Shop
development
Disease
Diseases
Dispensary
Doctor
Doctors
Drink
Edel House
Families
Family
Farmers
Father
Fighting
Fights
Film
Films
Fish and Chips
Fishing
Fishing Rod
Fitzgerald’s Park
Fleas
Food
Forde’s
Friends
Fruit
Gamblers Anonymous
Games
Garda
Gardai
Grandmother
Grattan Street
Graveyard
Halloween
Headlice
Health
health and hygiene
Home
Home Ownership
Horse
Horse and Cart
Horses
House
House Ownership
Housing
HSE
Hygiene
Ice-cream
Illness
income inequality
Inequality
Joseph’s School
Kick the Bucket
Lee Fields
Lice
Liver
Liver Disease
London
markets
Marsh
Mass
Meals
Medication
Medicine
Mercy Hospital
Methodone
Middle Parish
Money
Mother
Mumps
Munster Furniture
Munster Furniture and Hardware
Narcotics Anonymous
North Main Street
Parents
Parking
Pawn
Pawn Shop
Pawn Shops
Pawning
Pawns
Pawnshop
Pawnshops
People
Pharmacist
Pictures
Playing
Pothole
Potholes
Poverty
Prescription
Presentation Brothers
Priest
Produce
protests
Pubs
Recycling
Religion
Ryan’s Bar
Ryan’s Pub
Safety
School
Selling
Shawl
Shawlies
Shawls
Sheares Street
Shoes
Shopkeeper
Shopping
Shops
Sickness
smoking
Sober
Sobriety
St Anne's Mental Asylum
St Joseph’s School
St Peter’s
St Peter’s Cemetery
St. Anne's Asylum
St. Anne’s
St. Francis Church
St. Francis School
St. Peter’s Cemetery
Stealing
student accommodation
Students
Sweets
Swim
Swimming
Tanora
Teacher
Teachers
Teenager
The Marsh
The Middle Parish
Theft
Tomb
Treat
Treats
Uptown Grill
Vaccination
vaccine
Vaccines
Vegetables
Violence
Waiting Room
Woodbine
Woodbines
Woodford Bourne
Woodford Bourne's
Woodford Bournes