9 20 249 https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/ccc4e7eb26194ea6bda612d5161c78fd.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Cathal Kerrigan Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 220min 6 seconds. Location The location of the interview Brookfield Library, UCC. Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data . wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound SD Can I ask you, you mentioned earlier on, a man who was beaten to death was it John Roche? CK John Roche, now I am not sure, how you know the usual thing but he is dead, I am not sure about his family they, the problem when people die, like the same with Flynn, Foley, Flynn and can’t remember his first name, Flynn in Fairview Park, when he was beaten to death his family objected to us, saying that he was cruising that he was gay, in fact, what we did is said, well look even if he is not gay, that is exactly the point, that in fact even straight people are risked by homophobia and battering. SD Yeah. CK But John Roche was a, you, you know he was a lovely guy he lived in Cork -- SD I was just going to ask did his death help influence you in marching when the Fairview murder. CK Oh absolutely you know because I mean, the other one, is that before the Fairview murder as well there was the Charles Self. And the Charles Self was a designer at RTE, this was in 1981, he was murdered. 1982 was the protest around it, and he was bludgeoned to death, I didn’t see photographs or anything but the description, he was bludgeoned to death in his apartment, he was a well to do designer in RTE, what is presumed is that he brought somebody back and this person went psycho and bludgeoned him to death. Now I suppose I should say that to me this is something I haven’t really talked about before I have, talked to a couple of people personally about it is, in many cases I say to people I have been very lucky, like for instance Lawrence Davis, I hope he doesn’t mind, I am sure he won’t mind me mention it, he is kind of the chair of the LGBT staff network here in UCC, he is from America, but he is living in Dublin and he is commuting up and down but Lawrence and I were talking about violence against gays, because I was saying, we were somewhere yes, we were walking through, and the day of the referendum count, Lawrence was in Cork and we were walking from the count centre to get something to eat, about four or clock in the afternoon, you know the count was coming in, the count centre people were sitting in and cheering, I said to Lawrence this is going on much longer but I am going to need some food, I am going to go out and get some, and he said well I will go with you because we will come back you know, we came back for six o clock news but on the way to get food, we passed by the Gate cinema, and as we were crossing the road, Lawrence said lets go across the road here, and I said why? There were a bunch of young fellas, young teenagers just horsing around, but he felt kind of nervous, I said look, trust me I am from Cork, I know how to handle these guys at this thing but talking about it afterwards I said but I have been lucky really I had never had any violence, I think he said, I have been beaten up twice and it really makes you aware you know, how vulnerable. And I’d had a friend in Dublin and the scene in Dublin and he was a lovely guy, he was a teacher, well he is a teacher, but a lovely guy and he was great outgoing and great fun and, and then I heard he had been beaten up, he had been out cruising in Powerstown [phonetic spelling] Park and he had beaten up and I didn’t see him for about six or nine months and then I met him about yeah twelve months later, and I was talking to him over drink. And he said Cathal my whole life has changed, he said now, said before this happened, I walked around and I didn’t even think about safety, I just assumed I was safe everywhere I went, I didn’t even look around me, I just, now he said, I am terrified of even going to a gay bar without looking around, are there, are there bashers, you know looking for clients there, looking for potential targets, you know because they will follow you out of the bar and then beat you up, he said look I am terrified, my sense of safety, I can’t relax at all, they have destroyed my very living day to day every minute, now Lawrence wasn’t as bad obviously but it was again, if you were beaten up, I said, I was saying to him I haven’t had that experience but then, of course, I ended up saying to him, telling him I think about an experience I did have which was in Cork. I mentioned that Tadgh and Dominic had showed me how to cruise and I said how horrified I was about all this, but I was having difficulty, finding people to have sex with, I have never been, I have always had difficulty with sex in that sense since I was you know. It is, in some people are great they can go into, I have never gone into a sauna, believe it or not, I have gone into a sauna to get money for the Fairview march from people in Dublin but I got it at the counter. I never went, I have never gone into and I lived in Amsterdam and I was just five hundred metres up the way from the night sauna and about seven hundred and fifty metres away from the, the day sauna. People used to say, but why haven’t you? I said, friends of mine used to go, go in but I never, I just somehow it is not my kind, I need to see people, I need to be able to relate to them. I, I need, I am probably still Catholic enough for me to believe, even though I have one night stands, I always said I never have one night stands, I always had a potential relationship until the following morning, they said goodbye, or I said goodbye. So that is the kind of mentality, but there I was in Cork, I was not settled into Cork, I was nineteen, I was living in Sundays Well with my own apartment. So I had my own place, so now I should have been just having sex every night, I should have had a live-in lover, but I certainly should have, I had my own space it was not a problem by not having a bed to go to, not having privacy but I still wasn’t getting the sex. People seem to be shying away from me or I was alienating people, blah blah, I hadn’t met, it was about the time I met David maybe, but the thing is that, I was, and used, I used to get, in those days you got paid in cash, and you got paid a week, once a, on a Friday, and you got, and your money was put in a little brown envelope and they gave it to you, you went down collected it so a Friday afternoon I collected my money, and I was just feeling, I went in, I, I decided to go straight into town. I had lunch at work, because that was kind of thing, I went straight into town went into the bar or whatever, I went into a bar had a few drinks, had a few more drinks, went to, it was probably Le Chateaux I think at the time, or possibly the Imperial or maybe both because there was a kind of, kind of a trail that you could do as well, you know the way gay people, you want to, one bar would be just so boring, it would be much more fun, particularly for the kind of cruisiness. You would move to, and the pub closed, and I was very drunk and I had my brown envelope in my pocket and I walked up, I remember, it must have been the imperial, I walked up North Main street, and there is, when you cross the North Gate Bridge, just at the end of Shandon street, there was a little, tiny little loo, there, which was open air, and was just like literally, two, if you can imagine two concrete walls and there was a kind of entrance way on one side and then there was a piss, wall, and basically just you could just piss there, and the water, and it is just flowed directly into the river, because it was just on the side of the river, so it is like if you know where the taxi company has a little hut there at the end of Shandon street on the quay just directly across from that, so I went and I decided and that was a cruising area a big cruising area as well believe it or not even though it could only fit like two or three people but there, what you need, the way it works. So I went in there [pause] and I came out and there was nobody in there and I so I pissed and I came out and thought right that is the end of it now I said, I am going to walk up home to Sunday’s Well up along the Quay, and as I was walking up along the Quay, I realised I thought there was somebody following me and looked around and there was gorgeous guy, tight clothes, looking like he could be a sailor or something, I thought, and he over took me as I was climbing the hill of Sundays Well and we got talking and he was on for sex, so we went back into my bedsit, and the next thing I remember, I was very drunk so the next thing I remember is that my coat, my coat was on the hook of the back of the door, I was naked, lying naked on the bed and it was just a single bed, and he was half clothed his top was off but not his trousers and he was sitting on me, and I remember him just sort of [pause] pinning my arms down, and saying so you like it rough, and I was saying maybe yeah please. And then he was slapping my face and he was suddenly, suddenly all I remembered is him saying, something about money and of course, I was such a person, I got so insulted with the idea, that there was going to be money involved with this, and then I got frightened. So I was robbed, and I just, so then I got scared, and I remember just saying just take the money, it is in the inside pocket of the jacket or whatever so he took my money and disappeared with all my money for that week, and of course in those days, I lived on a week to week to basis, a bit like Eastenders, you know you only have the money that you earn that week. And I think so, I had to go to Eddie, he was the only person I told about this. I couldn’t tell my parents they would have been horrified and Eddie lent me enough money to get through the week. And I never really told many people but deep down it obviously, when I say I have never been beaten up since. One of the things and that is why I was saying about the back of the bus and being visible, is that [pause] you can have a self-selected, you know, kind of, you control your space, so you never go to spaces where you are likely to be in danger, and so I yes, I would feel that maybe that even though I have covered it up, now that I am looking back, I would say what I learned from that thing, was that I was never going to put myself in that position as possible. And that when I have gone into positions, like when living in Amsterdam, I had an American friend visiting as well from New York but he was a good friend, but he we were walking along the quays one night coming from a bar, a beautiful night, and suddenly he got very edgy, there were two black guys coming for us, and I spoke fluent Dutch at this stage, and there was no thing, of racial, you didn’t have racism in Amsterdam you know it was quiet but he got, very and he had been beaten up in New York and it was, he had that New York kind of distrust of people who were black, in America, kind of deep down, and he is you know, unaware of, he went I said look trust me this is my space, I know it just, but he didn’t we were walking past, and one of the guys could see something going you know could feel it. And just he started shouting what is going on over there, ye don’t like this or something or what and my friend ran, and then I was left there, they came over to me, and so I was talking Dutch to them and persuading them and trying got out of it by talking so I think yeah I mean I feel very strongly that if you know, if you talk about that is why when you look at the Fairview march as I said, this guy has just done his thesis on, on gays against imperialism and that all whole gay collective thing. And he makes a comment and I have just read it, and he makes a comment in it that you know, that we the documentation, and the Archive shows because I would have forgotten some of it so, we deliberately we made a very specific thing, that we were not conservatives saying hang them high, give them harder sentences lock them away for life. We turned the Fairview march in on, and the front banner said stop violence against gay’s and women, and we need to. Nobody should ever feel threatened whether they are because of race of because of the way they look because of who they love or because of their gender Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Cathal Kerrigan: Activism, Gay Scene, Quay Co-op, Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource Cathal speaks about first becoming aware of his sexual orientation in his teens. Mayfield mixed secondary school. Eglington St Baths. His father Patrick Kerrigan, Labour TD and senator and Cork Lord Mayor. The Irish literary magazine Hibernia. RTE TV programme The Psychotherapist. Cruising loos and public toilets. Gay hangouts in 1970’s Cork. The Green Room on the corner of Paul St. The Château Bar on Patrick St. The Metropole Hotel Bar. It’s Persian inspired interior. Gay scandal at the Metropole bar. Moores Hotel Bar on Morrison’s Island. Imperial Hotel Bar. Where theatre crowd from Everyman Palace and Opera House hung out. The book Homosexual: Oppression And Liberation by Dennis Altman. The liberal Cork bookshop APCK (the Association for Promoting Christian Knowledge). How it offered advice to young gay people. ILGA (International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association). Kid Jenson on Radio Luxemburg. Reading about picket of the Department Of Justice Union for Sexual Freedoms in Ireland. The gay rights movement in Ireland 1970s. David Norris. Cathal going to see a psychiatrist about his homosexuality. Sarsfield Court. Doing the Leaving Cert. His father getting him a job with the Southern Health Board. His father Road Bowling and going after to the Fox And Hounds pub in Ballyvolane. IDRM (Irish Disability Rights Movement). Getting involved with the Irish branch of The Anti-Psychiatry Movement. R.D. Laing. The Sunday World doing an article on the gay movement in Dublin. The formation of the Irish branch of Irish branch Campaign For Homosexual Equality. Cathal writing off to the group. Sean Connolly and Eddie Dennehy of the 1970s Cork gay scene. Going to the Chateau bar for the first time. Cathal making contact with the Cork gay scene. The character of Mr Humphries in sitcom Are You Being Served and how this was the only representation of a gay person seen on TV. How gay men in Cork would meet for sexual encounters by cruising public toilets or “cruising the loos”. Public toilet at the corner of Grand Parade and South Mall. Public toilet at bottom of Shandon St. Moving out of home in 1975 into a bedsit on Sundays Well. How people at this time generally only moved out if they got married. Going to Dublin in 1975 to meet up with CFHE in Parnell Square in Dublin and meeting activists such as Edmund Lynch and Sean Connolly, David Norris, Bernard Keogh and Clem Clancy. Coming out as gay to his family the same year. His family’s reaction. Subscribing to the British paper Gay News. How it would arrive in a plain brown envelope. How in later years Cathals bedsit in Sundays Well was home to Mark Papazian who went on to commit a notorious murder in London. Cathals relationship with a man called Dennis Hyland, losing his virginity to him. Reading the intellectual C.P. Snow. How the Cork branch of Gay Liberation came to be set up in the mid-’70s. Holding cheese and wine receptions for the group in his Sundays Well bedsit. Meetings in Dan Lowry’s pub on McCurtain St. How at first they had meetings in St Francis Hall, how they had to move from there. The group set up a gay disco on McCurtain St. How Sean Connolly and Clem Clancy had already set up a gay disco in Dublin. David Norris first gay person to speak in an interview on Irish television on Last House with Áine O’Connor in 1975. Edmund Lynches documentary Did Anyone Notice Us? More on the gay disco on McCurtain St. How it was set up in a run-down building. Consulting with the Gardai in McCurtain St station before opening it. How some gay people were opposed to bringing the gay scene into the open as they preferred it hidden. Gay bashing. The 1982 Fairview Park murder of Declan Flynn and subsequent protests. The 1982 murder of RTE employee Charles Self. The homophobic murder in Cork of John Roche. How the gay scene in the ’70s was very middle class. How the disco ion McCurtain St brought more class diversity and working-class gay people. How the George gay bar in Dublin attracted negative attention following the decriminalisation of homosexuality in Ireland 1993. Patrons being attacked and robbed as they left. A small gay scene that revolved around two men who had an n apartment in Empress Villas, on Summerhill North. Parties had at this premises. The West Cork hippy scene that developed in the 1970s. People who came from England, Germany and elsewhere and bought land. How some of them would grow marijuana. David Gordon who was known on the gay scene as Mother Gordon. His flat on Summerhill North a centre for parties on the scene. His fame as a ballet choreographer. His work with Joan Denise Moriarty in the Cork City Ballet. Working as a dancer and choreographer in Paris and London. How he would initiate gay young men into the scene. Cathal having a relationship with him. How he would hold court in the Chateau Bar and would not hide the fact that he was gay. How David Gordon had a tab with a taxi company. Good Time Charlie’s nightclub on Oliver Plunket Street, now the Oliver Plunket Bar. The Other Place gay club. The novel Mind That Tis Me Brother by Gaye Shortland. Loafers bar on Douglas St, Corks first gay bar. Loafers founder Derek Gerrity and how he was an engineer in the Merchant Navy. Dancer Brendan Roddy. Cathal attending the Campaign for Homosexual Equality (CHE) conference in Sheffield in 1975. The split in the Irish branch of the CFHE. Split between the political side of the gay movement and those who wanted to profit commercially from the gay bars and discos. David Norris forming the NGF (National Gay Federation) and before that forming a political group The Campaign For Sexual Law Reform in 1978. Quay Co-Op on Sullivan’s Quay opening in 1982. How it hosted a gay disco in the mid-80s. Quay Co-Op founder Arthur Leahy. Cork gay activist Kieran Rose. Fr Joseph O Leary and his activism in the gay scene. Laurie Steele. Founding of the Cork Gay Collective. Cathal studying in UCC. Successfully running for President of the Students Union. Himself and a colleague including a piece on gay advice on the student’s welfare booklet. How the Dean of student affairs Sean Teegan told them they could not sell it and how they got around this by giving it away. The coming of Aids a few short years after this. November of 1981 the Philosoph debate in UCC. Donal Godfrey giving a speech. Cathal giving a speech on gay rights. Getting David Norris to speak. The Gay Collective. How they were regarded as Looney lefties by the IGRM and the NGF. How in the Spring of 1980 they decided they would solve the problem of the split in the Irish gay rights movement. Meeting in the Reconciliation Centre in Glencreagh in Co Wicklow. Inviting IGRM and NGF. How they had no reconciliation. He then says he thinks it was actually held in 1980. First national gay conference held in Cork. Arthur Leahy's archive. Kieran Rose work with the Labour Party. Gay Collective first action when they handed out leaflets at the ITCU annual conference in City Hall stating that gay rights were workers issues. British group Gay Left. Kieran Rose’s book Diverse Communities produced by Cork University Press. Irish Queer Archive. Cathal entering into a relationship with Mairtín Mac an Ghoill a Trotskyite from Dublin who had lived in North and set up what would become the anti H-Block group The Relatives Action Committee with Bernadette McAlliskey. Getting involved with radical Republican politics. The H-Block Hunger Strikes. Mairtín Mac an Ghoill and Cathal marching at Cork Hunger Strikes protest under gay banner. Skiddy Court. Arthur Leahy and Co-Op. Dublin Lesbian and Gay Collective. Gay Health Action came out of a suggestion from Arthur Leahy and Pat McCarthy. Aids and the death of Rock Hudson. Moving to Dublin. Trotskyites and socialists. Liberty Hall in Dublin. Trying to found a group called Gays Against Imperialism. Gay and Lesbian Equality Network (Glen). Glen split into two groups, the Dublin Gay Men’s and the Dublin Gay Collective. Lesbians complaining about sexism from gay men. Aids Help Alliance. Cathal moving to the Netherlands. 1993 Fianna Fail and Labour passing the law decriminalising homosexuality. Coming back to Ireland. Moving to Galway. A gay character in the TG4 soap opera Ros Na Run. Getting involved with the Irish language. Moving back to Cork and getting a job as a librarian in UCC. Cork hurler Donal Og Cusack coming out as gay. Cathal’s views on coming out. How bi- sexual are viewed with suspicion by gay men. BBC programme Life In Squares about the Bloomsbury Group and their Bi-sexual lifestyle. UCC LGBT society. The time in the 1970s when Cathal was threatened and robbed by a man he picked up while cruising for sex. The dangers of cruising. Grindr and online dating apps. Trying to have relationships as you get older. Changes in the gay socialising scene. The decline in gay bars. Chambers bar in Cork. Famous cruising gay bar in San Francisco called the Stud. Berlin after the wall came down. People taking Ecstasy tablets. Dutch Department Of Health providing Ecstasy tablet purity testing in nightclubs. The death of his father from Cancer in 1979. How soon after Labour approached him to run for the Dail. The issues that would have arisen as a gay politician at the time. Turning it down. Tim Daly of Labour. Gay activism and fundraising. The 2015 Marriage Equability referendum. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 37 July 2015 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Cathal Kerrigan Interviewers: Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Dublin, Ireland, 1970s-2010s, Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 2 .wav files Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100"></a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound Activisim Arthur Leahy Campaign for Homosexual Equality Cork Gay Collective David Norris Edmund Lynch Gay Rights Gaye Shortland Hate Crime Irish Queer Archive Kieran Rose Le Chateau Marriage Referendum Mind That Tis Me Brother Mother Gordon Netherlands Quay Co-op The Metropole The Persian Room UCC LGBT https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/6931244a8c6d64c87eb96b3ffeaed969.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Tony Doherty Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 95min 22sec Location The location of the interview The South Terrace, Cork City. Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound SD When did you first hear the term coined, you know homosexual gay? TD Ah sure we heard it all the time my father like was in the special branch, and they were constantly in those days the guards like kind of following going down any cruising areas, or I remember once talking about some Judge that used to come to Cork like and they would follow him around because he picking up young fellas, there was a kind of balance as far I could see in those days, that, like there was no one obviously anyone open, they were about two openly gay men Martin Bennett in the, what was it called, he had a shop, the bargain stores in the North Main street, he was famous, everyone knew he was gay like, he would be getting off with Echo Boys and things and there was a guy, over in Boreenmanna, who was known as Father Tom I think, even though he wasn’t a priest who was into young fellas as well and there was a fella two doors up and so like it accepted that, our headmaster up in Chriost Rí used bring the good looking guys and he would sit them on his lap, like cute little first and second years and things like that, and we were aware of that, we accepted it, there was another brother who used to do it as well, and that was the norm. I remember now this, there was a brother there who used always fall in love with the young fella who would be playing the boy soprano in the opera, the annual opera, that Gilbert and Sullivan done every year like and he would be trying to kiss him backstage and we would grab, we would be working backstage as well, we would grab the young fella and we would be waiting to land, for Brother Amsel[phonetic??] would to appear, and we would shove him out in front of him. Because we just thought that this is the norm you know, but if you didn’t associate yourself with that, you would be kind of tempted alright to go looking for Uncle Tom, or Father Tom, whatever you called him, but then I kind have started an affair, or a fling with a friend of mine so that solved that problem. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Tony Doherty: Rainbow Ramblers, Cork Gay Mens’ Cooperative, Cruising. Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource Tony Doherty was interviewed as part of the LGBT project. He describes his younger days in Cork in the 1950s and 1960s. He went to England in 1968, five years after decriminalisation in the UK. He describes being gay in a Catholic school, the social scene, theatre productions and notable people. He recalls decriminalisation in 1993. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 15 July 2015 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Tony Doherty Interviewers: Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Ireland, England, 1950s-2010s Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100"></a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s 1990s 2000s 2010s CAT Club Cork Gay Mens’ Cooperative Cruising David Gordon Decriminalisation Dogging Grindr Hilton Edwards Iron Toilet Le Chateau LGBT Marriage Referendum Michael Mac Liammoir Mother Gordon Rainbow Ramblers The Other Place Tony Doherty https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/77e03cc31ed60c564f3f3a9c33a48f3c.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Edmund Lynch Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 37min 09sec Location The location of the interview Cork Folklore Project, Farranferris, Cork Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data . wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound EL Since the foundation of the gay movement way back in ’71 was it? Yeah, 71’ or ‘73 I forget what year. I have always been interested that we should always keep cutting out everything. I mean I worked in RTE and I was in the film Department and when we would be going out on the road I was well known going into the van with the Irish Times, the Irish Press, the Irish Independent as I went through all the papers, cutting everything out, cutting them perfect, putting the date on, and it went into the Archive of the Irish Gay Rights movement at that time, and I kept an interest in Archives and I mean I did a film about the Irish gay people because I felt it was very important, it shouldn’t be lost and about two and a half three years ago I thought, would you get and interview people about there story what it was like, growing up as being gay and lesbian, I mean at the time, we found that the gay movement, we were all known as homosexual people. There was no, there might have been lesbians we didn’t know about transgender and we didn’t know what the word gay was except having a great time on Gay Byrne, people like that, and it just, it is the sort of thing, I have always been interested, that we should always have information and it is the same way even today, when I have my coffee and everything else in the Irish Film Centre, I always sit at table thirteen, and people say why table thirteen? I say it is the best seat to see everyone that comes in for coffee, so you don’t miss anyone that you may have known or didn’t know. So I have been always interested in gathering up information because I think the more information we have, the easier it is to tell a story. DC And throughout your years in RTE, did you always, did you feel like you were going to do something like this later. EL Yeah, I mean RTE wasn’t a gay area as it may be now, a lot of gay people, the only time it was gay it was at Christmas, when the lights were turned on, in the whole complex, you know, outside and everything else. I, I came out as being gay in RTE I didn’t care, and I always learned that word, F off which was really good, you could say it nicely and you could say it hard, but I didn’t put up with people who were anti-gay, a lot of people might have been anti because they didn’t know what gay was. And I was a, when RTE did programmes about like Cathal O’Shannon and things like that, I knew about it, they would ask me about certain things. Because people made them, oh this is a new story lets get out and be the first ones with it, but RTE wasn’t a pro-gay, but it wasn’t anti. SD Right. Can you tell us about your vision for your project, what is your end result? EL My end result of this project is, that our history isn’t forgotten, that it has been available to everyone, especially for the thousands of young, gay and lesbian and transgender people coming on, that they will know something of their history their story, because their story has been told by people, it has not being told by me, I am just acting as the, I won’t say a judicator because I am not going to be judicate, I’m a facilitator I think would be a better word of getting people telling the story I may, bring them in a certain direction, to make sure that they haven’t forgotten something, you know, which is important like. I interviewed someone recently and I was out, at the GALA Awards did someone mention did so and so mention about, when I person died from an AIDS-related disease, the undertakers wouldn’t take the body, they had to prepare it, so there was a group of people in Dublin who were preparing peoples bodies for, for burial, I didn’t know about my in Dublin, I was in the middle of a lot of things, but I didn’t know about that, but that sort of story, and I also talking to people, who talk about their children that they have adopted and so forth, and I, you know I have learnt a lot of thing. A lot of single older gay men, may not have known that they were gay, but they were the one people that were left at home to mind there mothers to look after them in old age, and people tend to forget that, and they also tend to forget the amount of good work, be the people that have been priests, pastors, have have, done. But there are stories that I am getting out of people but it is in their words and of course before I interview anybody, they have to sign a release form, and maybe doing everything on television but that is so I can get the transcript, the transcriptions done but it also means that it can be made into programmes but only with their permission but if they decide, they do not want it to be transmitted and that, that doesn’t, it doesn’t get done. And it is going to a University, University of Galway and it will be available to everyone, it is not going into the National Archives because I regard it as a black hole of Calcutta. SD Okay DC Okay. SD And can you tell us so a little bit about the book that you plan from your Irish LGBT History Project? EL I have been in touch with the History book of Ireland and they are willing to publish it. They have been talking about cutting it back and I have, and still say no. I am a person that, I think it needs to be bigger. I think I showed you the size, I think the book can be done so I can everything in, but every person I have interviewed, I have all passed it over too, a friend of mine who is a barrister and every interview has been checked, for example, anyone a promise have been named, their name has been changed, unless you give permission for the name to be left in it or they have died because I can’t be sued if they die. SD Right, and the format that the book will take, is it going to contain direct transcripts or are you going to break everything down into themes or? EL It maybe still open, it may be down to themes and then again it may not. I am one of these people, an ex-television person, you don’t make up your mind till nearer the time, and I think there would be a mixture of both. SD Okay, can you talk to us a little bit about the documentary that you directed, did anyone notice us? EL Well I am happy to say, it was shown down here at the Cork Film Festival and it was a surprise to me that I won, I didn’t realise that, I came up with the idea, in RTE, went to Cathal Cohen who was, he wasn’t director general then, no he was head of programmes and I said Cathal, I would like to do it, you know and I said not for the organisation, can I have the use of all, all the footage, and it was forty thousand pounds worth of stuff, he said, go on, it wasn’t costing them money and so I got it all. And I knew what was in the library, that was a good thing about it and then I sat down to write a story and decided what was the best way to do it, and I thought that some classic stuff and I thought that Gay Byrne was so good, when the woman who was talking to, when she was talking about the inserter and the insertee, you know, and it’s a film that is available to everyone but someone without my permission put it on Youtube and I haven’t had, I didn’t bother take it down. I didn’t mind but I think it is important for people to have it. SD Right and the dates of that documentary go from 1973 to 1993? EL That’s when the law, we were all marching up after the law was changed. SD Why 1973, is that our earliest RTE records of that. EL It was the earliest that RTE would have, I think it was the first one they did, was The Late Late Show, with Rose Robertson, which unfortunately was wiped, and you know that was the time they were doing it, you know that was the time they were doing it that, I think the only thing was, was a piece on the radio, done by Líam Nolan talking to two gay people at the start of the first gay conference. DC And that was in 73? EL Yeah, which I was one of the people organising it. But I mean the Late Late Show, I asked Gay Byrne would he agree to have Rose Robertson on and talk about the, yeah, I said would you pay here fare over you know and the hotel, as you would with your guests, yes I would do all that. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Edmund Lynch: Irish Gay Rights Movement, Marriage Referendum, Activism, Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource Edmund Lynch is a gay activist from Dublin. He came out to his family in 1974/5. He discusses the Irish gay rights movement from the 1970s through decriminalisation and the Marriage Referendum in 2015. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 14 July 2015 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Edmund Lynch Interviewers: Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Dublin, Ireland, 1960s-2010s Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100"></a> Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound 1970s 1980s 1990s 2000s 2010s Activism AIDS David Norris Decriminalisation Edmund Lynch Irish Gay Rights Movement LGBT Marriage Referendum RTE https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/9c9edd70bc9b9e9e035c1026164f41dc.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Tara Whelan Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 43min 18sec Location The location of the interview The Lough, Cork. Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data . wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound SD And did that classification then of bisexual, lesbian, did that bring its own set of fears with it or was it more like a relief? TW I suppose, when I put bisexual onto myself there would have been more fears, there was an even more different than the ones that are different so now there is the heterosexual people who would consider the homosexual different and then you throw bisexual into the mix now your just messing with it altogether but as I got older it makes me that little bit more unique, and as I always say there is more out there for me then there is for most people because there is more to choose from you know and when people ask me are you in the mood then for a woman one day and a man the next day, it’s nothing like that at all, you know its always, I’ll always go for the person themselves and whether they have a penis or a vagina is just, it just is, it doesn’t really matter that much, so, I mean, yeah I guess I just feel like it makes me that bit more unique. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Tara Whelan: Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 8 July 2015 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Tara Whelan Interviewers: Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Ireland, Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100"></a> Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Description An account of the resource Tara discusses her life as a bisexual woman in Ireland. Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/eca7192530eb4145ef45f09f6f2c2788.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Jonathan Neville Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 56 min 12 sec Location The location of the interview The Cork Examiner Offices, Blackpool Rd. Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Jonathan Neville: Cork Gay Project, Cork Pride, Fatherhood, Gay Marriage. Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource Jonathan Neville was interviewed for the LGBT Archive at CFP. He discusses the challenge of being gay in Ireland in the 1980s to the present and the challenge of coming out. His discussion of the detrimental physical health ramifications of suppressing oneself is compelling. He discusses the evolution of the Other Place and social resources in Cork. His discussion about his relationship to faith or religion, especially after having attended seminary in Maynooth, is powerful. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 30 April 2015 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Jonathan Neville Interviewers: Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00549_neville_2015 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Ireland, 1980s - 2010s, Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100"></a> Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound Catholic Church Chambers Bar Cork Gay Project Cork Pride Fatherhood Flux Gay Marriage Handbag Boys Instinct Jonathan Neville Linc Loafer's Marriage Referendum Mother Gordon Ruby’s Taboo The Other Place https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/9c50bb85dee444027590a3f3dc026fc9.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Paul McAllister Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 30min 29sec Location The location of the interview To the side of the Wolff Mardyke Pedestrian Bridge Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound DC And did you ever go on the scene before you came out or did that all happen after? PM No, no I started going to the Otherplace at twenty-seven, twenty-eight, kind of, every Saturday night, sneaking in and sneaking out, I knew nobody so I was just going there, I used to get the last bus up, hop in, down the dark alley, sneak in the door, mortified, knocking at the door, please let me in, and going in so for the first kind of I’d say two days before I came out to myself I was kind of dabbling, not meeting anyone, just going to the club and stuff and then met a few friends and it got a bit more regular every week and then it was going to Loafers every week and then it kind of worked from there. SD Can you tell us a little bit more about your first time going to the Otherplace, the atmosphere, the feelings? PM Oh nightmare, nightmare, I used to stress, I don’t drink so I used to go up on the bus and I used to be getting ready at home and I used to get the twenty past ten bus now cause at that stage I knew no one so I used to go on my own and its down in the middle of town but its down a very dark street so you walk down, its two kind of doors and one is kind of closed off but not knowing it I used to knock at the wrong door so for the first few weeks I was like slow, knocking at the wrong door with no one coming out to me and eventually I kind of cased the joint and go out again and come around and eventually I learned that there was cameras inside so they were all watching me, laughing at me because over the time they said you were always going to the wrong door why did you keep picking the wrong door, and you had to be a member at that time so the first few times was a nightmare, walking in and this big blurry, burly bouncer said do you know where you are and I said yeah cringing, then the people behind the counter taking your coat and I’m saying I hope I know no one, you walk up a stairs, then you open a door and everyone turns and then you die, and then after a while you kind of, once I’m in there then I’m fine its just initially getting inside the door was a nightmare, for about a month, it took me months to get used to walking in there, hated it, cause you could open the door and see anyone, it could be a woman dressed as a man, or a man dressed as a woman, sorry, and it could be a bit intense so yeah, nightmare, but after a few months of that it was grand. DC What year would this have been around? PM I’m now forty-four so twenty eight how long ago is that, sixteen years ago, so it would have been 1990’s, late 1990’s, so I was doing the club scene from the 1990s onwards and then I was doing Loafers now and again, like once, depending on who I was with and hanging around with but yeah it was around that time, 1990’s, late 1990’s when I started to kind of dabble in that part of life. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Paul McCallister: Homosexuality, Catholic Church, Decriminalisation Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County Description An account of the resource Paul talks about the challenges of being gay in Ireland, coming out, family reactions and the evolution of social attitudes toward homosexuality in Catholic Ireland. He talks about the club scene in late 1990s Cork and the legalisation of homosexuality in 1993. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 9 April 2015 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Paul McAllister Interviewers: Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Ireland, 1990s-2010s Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100"></a> Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project. Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project. Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound 1990s 2000s 2010s Catholic Church David Norris Decriminalisation Homosexuality LGBT Loafer's Paul McCallister Taboo The Other Place https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/0512ab2a25d7c5249618709fe6975b61.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Ken Curtin Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 35min 31sec Location The location of the interview North mall, Cork City Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound SD Em, was there a specific event that happened that made you get into equality in general in your fight for it? KC Em, I suppose do you know what, I actually think probably becoming a student union officer in the late 90s, or mid to late 90s would have been really where my view changed, because I grew up in a part of rural very, em, [pause] let’s just say we weren’t very forward-looking in our thought perspective, like I give the example of-- there was a gran-aunt of mine, now deceased, a lovely lady, but she got a -- she got a blood transfusion in hospital and her two-- her biggest concern when she got the blood transfusion because she had black and blue bruising around it was that she was after getting a black-man’s blood and I explained to that wasn’t how it worked, ‘twas just bruising and I also had to explain to her, look the blood could come from anywhere and of course this sent her into free-fall, because as bad as it was the idea that it was a black man’s blood, she then realised that she could’ve got protestant blood and that would’ve been the ultimate no-no, that there was protestant blood gone into her system so I had to get a priest to come along and literally give her a blessing and things to make sure that this protestant blood was dealt with, em, and that wasn’t a hundred years ago, that was literally a little over-- that was within the last twenty years that happened, and I know to this day I’m still interacting with people in different walks of life who haven’t embraced or haven’t opened their eyes to the wider community particularly, so, I suppose, I’ve always been very strong on feminist issues, I’ve been strong on, I suppose, on this particular issue, but like, and I remember when the-- I remember having to explain to people years ago when I took part in a protest about em-- which one that I still to this day can’t get my head around is the blood transfusion, that men-- that gay men can’t give blood, em, and I-- I got-- I was on the television at the time talking about it and I had umpteen people onto me afterwards “Jesus Ken, what were doing, supporting the gays, what’s that all about like?” Whereas to me it just seemed insane, I’m a blood donor as well, there’s a huge shortage of blood donations all the time. These were people for every solid medical reason they could give blood, for, they were willing to give blood when an awful lot of people weren’t and we were turning them down, and unfortunately to this day it still hasn’t been resolved. So em, there’s been-- there was no one issue but a kind of a combination of all that like, I was always going to be supportive when something like this came along then. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Ken Curtin: Marriage Referendum, Political Activism, Marriage Equality, Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County Description An account of the resource Ken was the campaign director for the Yes Equality! which campaigned for a yes vote in the marriage equality referendum in 2015. Ken, a heterosexual man, outlines his relationship to the gay community. en then explains his background in politics and other campaigns that he has been involved with. Ken then goes on to explain the nuances of the debate around marriage equality referendum. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 31 March 2015 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Ken Curtin Interviewers: Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Ireland, 2010s, Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100"></a> Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project. Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project. Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound 2010s LGBT Marriage Equality Marriage Referendum Political Activism https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/e69d42285b456a583c982f382a0c4a85.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Finbarr Kiely Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 44min 44sec Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound FK I was actually doing a line with a girl in the early eighties and do you know even when I was with her I still thought I would prefer to be with a guy and that kind of relationship broke down and I didn’t do any more about chasing women after that and eventually I got the courage up to go over there with Ned and then I think from there on I started accepting it and, accepted it in my own head anyway that this head wasn’t going to change like you know its not going to go away at this stage, em, still didn’t really tell anybody other than the guy that I went over with, but one night then I suppose two or three years later I was living a secret life going in there for a while but I told a good friend of mine at the time, he was a married man, much older than me with a family. I told him one night, it was around Christmas, his family had gone to bed and we were still having a few drinks and I told him by the way and even authorised that he could tell everyone the following day if he wanted so it got out around that particular circle eventually. I never told anybody at work as such except one fellow and that was pure accident, em, I used to work down west Cork at the time but I lived in the city but this one character he used to like to come up to Cork for a few drinks, wouldn’t say every week now but every second week and he tried to make a point of meeting me and we used to always meet on Douglas Street, the Gables generally at the time and eh, I’d want to get down to Loafers before closing time do you know just to see who was around, whatever, he used go nightclubbing the nights he would come up, stay in Cork for the night and go nightclubbing. I was always escaping from him around eleven o clock and em, one night he says to me, em, Fi (possibly short for Finbarr) where do you go now, you always go away around this time, where do you go? I’m dying to know, ah I said I just go down the road to some other pup down there. Which one do you go to and maybe I had a few pints that night and I said well Dennis actually its fucking Loafers and I told him straight out then and he got the biggest land of his life, em, he more or less said he thought I would be the last person in the world to be gay but anyway he said you know what I always wanted to see what that pub is like can I come down with you, so he actually came down with me for a drink that night. DC Ah cool! FK And em I still meet the same guy, I’m gone out of that firm nine years now maybe and he’s gone out of it even before me but we still meet regularly for a drink, well when I say regularly maybe once a year, twice a year max and he never told anyone else down in work so as far as I’m concerned work never knew but I was always, I worked in west Cork, lived in Cork city so the two lives didn’t clash you know, I kept my social life completely separate from work life so as far as I know nobody down there knew, for as long as I was there now maybe I’m wrong maybe they did know and they were just been polite you know as I’m a good actor you know. I worked with another fellow in Cork, em, up to three years ago and god he was every day he’d be telling me about his conquests for the night with different various women whatever, I met the guy there last year for a drink and em, there was another member with us who he had got to know we used to meet kind of regularly and he got to know another gay character with me and the gay fellow was going away one night and my friend says where are you going now and he said I’m going down to Loafers and he said uh and when he was gone the other fellow asked me I never knew he was gay and I says sure you never asked him, I suppose not he said, by the way I am too he said whaaaat…(laughter) now a week later I met him again or two weeks later and as it turned out he ended up coming back here and initiated some sexual activity. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Finbarr Kiely: Loafers Bar, Homosexuality, Decriminalisation. Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource Finbarr Kiely describes life in Cork for a gay man through the early ‘70s, the ‘90s up to the present. He recalls first realising that he is gay and how he blends this part of his personal life with social and professional lives. He relates stories of the gay cultural scene in Cork, well known bars, characters and events. He discusses decriminalisation and, briefly, gay marriage. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 11 November 2014 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Finbarr Kiely Interviewers: Dermot Casey & Stephen Dee Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Ireland, 1970s-2010s Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100"></a> Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project. Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive. Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project. Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound 1970s 1980s 1990s 2000s 2010s Decriminalisation Homosexuality Loafer's The Othe Place https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/9bc110bd58afd06419818942f7167534.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Clive Davis Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 54min 48sec Location The location of the interview Cork Folklore Project Farranferris Cork Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound SD So did you have a big coming out experience or was it just a general realisation. CD No I think of a general realisation, I suppose because I am a very private kind of a person, I don’t think I am came dashing out through the snow, or like running out from the back of the bushes or anything like that, I just kept it to myself, and I you know, it wasn’t until later years that I was when I was with my current partner, I told my mum, and I told my family and you know, so I don’t think it was a big coming out event, it wasn’t that big of a deal, I told her, I expected she wasn’t going to be very happy about it but she actually, she was very happy about it, she didn’t mind, you know, I had the bags packed at the door, but you know. And I think it is good in my mind, it was kind of easier, because I was gay with somebody else, that you know because sometimes, I find that in that thing, I think I over thought it for so long, like I was twenty-six about the time I told my mother, it was kind of like all the time thinking, oh Jesus what is she, what will happen if this, if, if , if, if all the ifs and buts were going through my head, and finally I said, look I will do, but I think being with somebody else helped me, you know, and I know now that annoys people when I say that, that you have to be in a relationship to come out, I don’t think that at all, for me it was an easier path to take. SD Okay. DC And did your parents, did your mother have any suspicions, when you were a teenager? CD She asked me before and I looked not at all, that is nonsense you know, but I think, I think that is because I didn’t realise myself, you know, I was kind of fighting with it myself, because in school, you know there was a few bullies and things and they used to call me gay, and I used always be trying to know I am not. I am not different at all I had girlfriends and blah blah blah, you know but I so, she did ask, and she kind of ‘oh well I always knew that’ and that kind of annoyed me even more, because you see, what was it about me that you thought like, how dare you, you know, and I am going through the series of having to be in front of the person when I came out so I have to sit in front of the person to see the reaction, and if their eyes were a bit skewed or if they looked down or looked up, then, oh that person, they are okay with it so I can’t be talking to them but my mother went on a spree of telling everyone, when I told her she just, I think she got up on top of the, the truck at the back of the house and just told everyone, so Clive is gay, Clive is gay, Clive is gay, Clive and I hated that because I wanted to see the reaction you know of people, but I think one of the sadder things about being gay, is that you have to, you are constantly telling people, it is not just when I was twenty one or eighteen or when you are meeting new people, [phone rings in the background] constantly your, your telling people, and you know that is very, you know it is hard, you know that you are always having to tell people about your, you know, about your sexuality. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Clive Davis: Gay life, The Other Place, South Main Street Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource Clive talks about his experience coming out as a gay man. He comments about helping others with their difficulties or with coming out but regretting that once out he would never see them again. He talks about the role and history of The Other Place, a café for the gay community. He explains how the idea of a resource centre has had to change as people use the internet instead. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 28 September 2014 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Clive Davis Interviewer: Stephen Dee & Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00532_davis_2014 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Laois, Ireland, 1960s-2010s Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100"></a> Clive's Interview was also used in Penny Johnston: <a href="http://corksmainstreets.corkfolklore.org/cms/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cork's Main Streets Project</a> Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project . Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project. Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound Chambers Clive Davis Coming Out Cork Gay Project Gay life Gay Pride LGBT Linc South Main Street The Other Place https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/bda03f02e377c09a9709a5561f2ea426.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Dermot Casey & Stephen Dee. Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Padraig McCarthy Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 66min 57sec Location The location of the interview Albert Road, Cork city. Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data 2 .wav Files Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound SD Okay and when did you first discover the gay scene, or was there a gay scene, or how did you meet other homosexuals? PMc Well in the 1960s, 1970s in Cork, there was no scene, I don’t even know, I never remember hearing the word scene, I discovered that people who felt like me, met in public toilets and the Nell MacCafferty thing obviously reinforced that, and the Nell MacCafferty court cases never put me off going into public toilets and meeting people and when I think about it now, it all sounds terribly sordid and I know it has become a kind of a subculture within the gay community, the whole cottaging the scene, and though it isn’t kind of necessary anymore I think there are still people who like to do that, almost for old times sake I suppose, that was my, that was all I was aware off in Cork. In the late 60’s early 70’s and, you know because of the nature of the situation like you went into a toilet and you met somebody and it was usually for sex and nothing else. Because you were meeting other people, who were every bit as isolated and lonely and maybe repressed, and maybe terrified that somebody would see them, as I was, and that was it. And in a way I mean I was relatively young, and I suppose anybody that I went off with, could actually have been in very serious trouble because essentially I was underage and they weren’t so it was quite an abusive situation but I didn’t see it like that you know, and it is something that I look back on now, with sadness and [pause] and I don’t think it is the most healthy way for anybody to develop their sexual identity. But that was all that was there, that was all we knew, those of us who frequented public toilets as I said, we weren’t aware of any scene, I am not sure if there was a scene, I certainly wasn’t aware of it. And one of like there is nothing you can do now. It is a, it is been, it is a huge source of regret to be now, that my formative sexual years, were carried out in that kind of environment that kind of situation, it is when, when I look now at people, growing up in their teens and, and, coming to terms with there identity and seeing all the support that is there for them, the fact that it is talked about in the schools, that is on in the school curricula and there are books TV programme etc all sorts of things around the place. And most importantly of all, places where they can go and meet other gay people and relate in a normal natural healthy way that I didn’t have growing up that and it is not just me, nobody in Cork had, as far as I know, at that time. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Padraig McCarthy: Homosexuality, Catholicism, Quay Co-Op, Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource Padraig talks about his experiences as a gay man. He regrets that his early homosexual encounters were within the cottaging scene. He mentions places and pubs where gay men met. He mentions the Cork word ‘steamer’ used by the general public to describe a gay man or a promiscuous man. He talks about the harsh position of the Catholic Church towards sex, but he speaks gratefully of a Catholic priest who advised him to accept his nature. He remembers the emergence of a gay scene in Cork associated with the Quay Co-op and with Loafers bar. He talks of coming out as a gradual process and tells a story about his fellow teachers taking him to a gay club. He comments on whether or not there is such a thing as the gay community. He criticises the Gay Pride events as not representing ordinary gay people and giving the general public a misleading impression. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 27 August 2014 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Padraig McCarthy Interviewers: Dermot Casey & Stephen Dee. Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Ireland, 1960s-2010s Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100"></a> Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 2 .wav Files Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound AIDS Catholic Church Cottaging Gay life Gay Pride HIV Homosexuality Imperial Hotel Irish Gay Rights Movement LGBT Loafer's Micheál Mac Liammóir Nell MacCafferty Padraig McCarthy Quay Co-op Samaritans The Other Place The Persian Room https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/80603144cecff56353fbb90f164dc2bc.jpg dda218890199f64c20d671236df01085 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Dermot Casey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Stephen Dee Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 57min 55sec Location The location of the interview Cork Folklore Project, Farranferris, Cork Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound DC Can you describe, I don’t want to focus too much on negative stuff but maybe the most outstanding negative experience of homophobia that happened to you in Cork? SD Em, you see I suppose my more negative was just been bullied when I was young as apposed to direct homophobia, I had things shouted from cars you know at me, or usually when I was with a certain friend who is a lot more obvious to look at that he is gay, em, but I never, I was never physically assaulted for being gay, it was just name calling, I had some problems in work, in a place I worked em but only the one place where I would come into a room and all the men would start talking about gay jokes, did you hear the latest gay joke, so they were directly throwing it in my face it was more a passive aggressive way of doing it em, but eh, I’ve never really suffered its really the only type of homophobia I suffered is my own homophobia in that I have tried so hard to fit in to a straight world where people do the whole hand signal thing that I hate where they throw their hand at a curve, you know bend it and you’re a faggott because of that, I’ve always tried to hold my hands a certain way so that when I am gesturing or whatever I would never hold it that way so I guess we all have a bit of internalised homophobia in us. DC But is that just social conventions then the way people dress and everything is so gendered… SD Yeah gender specific, yeah I mean, I would have loved like I remember when I was much younger and slimmer I had bought this top when I was in America and it was a, it was nearly see-through, it was all netting and I used to wear that going out and the amount of people that would just stare at me as if to this what the hell this because you know Cork is such a small, I know its come along way but there are still certain conventions when it comes to clothes that you are not supposed to pass, you know and em if you do your either gay or you know em… DC Do you think Cork is a good place to dress how you want? SD I think statistically Cork has a very low rate of Homophobia attacks so I think you know Cork is a good place for a gay person to grow up, you know to be gay in, em, eh, … DC I suppose yeah it’s a small city so. SD Yeah Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Stephen Dee: Gay life, LGBT, Loafers Bar, Coming Out. Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource Stephen talks about first becoming aware of feeling that he was gay, and the difficulty of acknowledging his realisation. He tells a story about seeing his dead grandmother, who told him everything would be okay. He points out that as a gay man he will have to continue to come out in new social and work situations. He describes beginning to socialise in Cork’s gay scene and gives examples of its benefits and disadvantages. He contrasts his generation’s attitude to gay life with that of younger generations, favourably and unfavourably. He doubts the existence of a cohesive gay community and points out that groups within it often have little shared purpose. Stephen was a researcher for the Cork Folklore Project, Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 27 August 2014 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Stephen Dee Interviewer: Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00518_dee_2014 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Ireland, 1980s-2010s Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound 1980s 1990s 2000s 2010s Coming Out Gay life GayCork.com Homophobia Instinct Lesbians LGBT Loafer's The Other Place https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/54ac81350555b5602612bddb5d673907.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Dermot Casey & Stephen Dee Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Christine Browne Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 85min 21sec Location The location of the interview Mallow, Co. Cork Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound DC So do you feel in your own little way the small interactions in your everyday life and just been living down here in Mallow and your not the two point four children white picket fence family, that you are a bit alternative that you are making some changes, and sometimes that’s all you need to do, you don’t need to be part of this massive activist kind of group maybe sometimes getting on with your life quietly in the small day to day interactions you are actually making small changes. CB Without even realising it, yeah, on of, you’ve just reminded me but apologies my pet fly Freddy has come back (laughter), when we had our ceremony our neighbours they used to be ourselves and our other neighbours up the road, we were the only ones here just until recently and we just got to know them, we never said anything and then we were having our ceremony and we invited them and I never forget the wife, she is a lovely lady, Joan and she turned around and she said you know what she said delighted to be invited but I’ve also never been to one of these before and I just wanted to see what way it would turn out and even at the ceremony one of my cousins turned around, I’ll never forget she was walking by me, the language, it wasn’t bad language she said feck sake this is better than my own wedding, heterosexual couple, so we are making probably slight changes as you say but we still get a few little knocks. There is a crèche here in Mallow that we used to have our son in, we took him out for health reasons for him and the owner turned around and when we were speaking to her she said well we did make allowances for your family unity. Now when she said it at the time I was, okay fine, we are doing the right thing by taking him out of here and putting him in another place and not a bother, I think we’re, myself and Tracy the ones who are more conscious of peoples reaction, do they think I have lied to them, you know because I haven’t said we are a couple but yeah making small little changes, I wouldn’t be surprised when Sean starts school that there might be another same-sex couple who might be putting their child in cause I remember ringing up. I rang up last year to put Sean's name on the list and the lady turned around and said you are not living in Dublin dear you can ring next year and put his name on the list whereas in Dublin when the baby is in the womb you have to put the child's name on the list to get them into the school but this is Mallow I think you could probably put the child's name down a couple of weeks beforehand. So I just said to her also look I was looking to see if we could meet the principle. I said em, Sean he has two mothers, I’m assuming I probably shouldn’t but that it was an old dear because there was a bit of stuttering and coughing and pick yourself up off the floor kind of thing, no problem whatsoever whenever you want to make an appointment that’s fine my dear, yeah, you just ring back whenever you are ready and I rang back and it was the same lady, and I said I am looking to make an appointment with the principle to come in just to explain about Sean and that he has two mothers. Oh, I was speaking to you before, come in whenever you want, there is no problem, come in whenever just call in. We haven’t gone in, no need, we think if we go in it will kind of make it a bigger thing. He is going to be bullied, he is going to be bullied anyway everyone gets picked on for something, in my eyes, kids are pass remarkable unless the parents are behind to give them a clip around the ear but eh yeah probably making small changes without even realising it, yeah. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Christine Browne: Homosexuality, Lesbianism, Gay Marriage. Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource Christine talks about realising she was gay, talking to boys but being attracted to women. Christine speaks about her experience of coming out to her family and friends. Christine also describes her time working in a laundrette, Duds n Suds on Douglas Street. She discusses the experience of having a child with her partner, about others’ reactions to their son having two mothers, and about difficulties it posed in relation to her legal role in regard to her son and to claiming benefits. She talks about the labels ‘gay’, ‘homosexual’, ‘lesbian’ and comments on Gay Pride. She comments on the issue of gay marriage and how she and her partner are treated by the local community. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 6 August 2014 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Christine Browne Interviewers: Dermot Casey & Stephen Dee Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00516_browne_2014 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Ireland, Douglas Street, 1980s-2010s Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound 1990s 2000s 2010s Douglas Street Gay life Gay Marriage Homosexuality Lesbianism LGBT Loafer's https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/f4c35e60afc96f9ec6cbc9d0c3afe66e.jpg c749eda90e16fa92bb8fcc1bdb0b02f4 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource LGBT Collection Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource The LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) collection was launched and created in August 2014 by Stephen Dee and Dermot Casey, researchers at the Cork Folklore Project. The Project was established to record and preserve stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County, with a focus prior to decriminalization in 1993 but also to document the important achievements and struggles that contributed to a society that today is far more accepting of LGBT people. This is proven today with the legalisation of same sex marriage through popular vote and the increased visibility of LGBT people in all areas of public life. The collection’s aims are to explore three main aspects: ‘Personal Recollections’ including but not limited to identity, coming out and experiences of homophobia; ‘Community Stories’ based on certain areas, streets, and forms of social interaction within the LGBT community; and ‘Political Movements’, chronicling political events, motivations and outcomes such as the creation of the Cork-based Irish Gay Rights Movement in 1976, Cork Gay Collective in 1980, and UCC Gay Soc in 1980. Each interview we conducted was unique with each interviewee covering some or all of these topics and with some areas being explored in depth. We hope the material can complement LGBT research in Ireland and also stimulate further interest amongst the public in LGBT history. To date we have distributed some of this material to the public with an audio visual presentation on YouTube and in 2016 in conjunction with Cork City Partnership for LGBT Awareness week we produced a public exhibition of our sound excerpts at Cork City Library. Special thanks to all our interviewees and also to Alvina Cassidy whose research also features in this collection. This LGBT collection of interviews is stored within the Cork Folklore Project permanent oral history archive run in conjunction with UCC’s Folklore and Ethnology Department and Northside Community Enterprises, with both a physical and digital presence. As with all our material, access to full interviews is supervised through a variety of permissions and forms. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2012 and onwards Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Derrick Gerrety; Eddie Kay; Christine Browne; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey; Padraig McCarthy; Clive Davis; Finbarr Kiely; Ken Curtin; Paul McAllister; Jonathan Neville; Tara Whelan; Edmund Lynch; Tony Doherty; Cathal Kerrigan; Barra O’Donnabhain Interviewers: Alvina Cassidy; Stephen Dee; Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with members of the LGBT community in Cork city and county Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 16 .wav files Relation A related resource Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Dermot Casey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Eddie Kay Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 33min 44sec Location The location of the interview Bridge St, Cork City. Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound D C And could you tell me a bit what like drag, how would you define drag like? E K How would I define drag? Well, I think drag has changed over the years, drag has gone from very straight up guy in a frock lip-synching to more performance art, to now it has evolved so much over the years. Now there is drag where people don’t even consider it drag, because it is just what people look like or decide what they want to wear or you know, you know drag is a kind of a funny one really you know because, again it all depends on what you, what you consider drag and the era of the drag artist. D C Yeah. E K You know, that they take on. So I mean, you know you have guys with beards these days who just wear makeup and that is considered drag, you know, you have, [pause] then you have got your Drag Kings, which I guess has been happening for quite a long time, where you have women who dress as men or you know women who have facial hair and call themselves Drag Kings. And so like I think, drag to me is fun it is not to be taken seriously and it is that’s what I think drag would be and it is about expressing yourself really I guess and kind of unleashing a side to you that you might never get a chance to do unless your that other alter ego I suppose, you know? D C So do you think it kind of had an impact on Cork and influenced people? E K Hugely. D C And changed -- E K I think that most definitely, I think that I found with Alternative Miss Cork at the start when we just started it off it was mainly just gay, do you know what I mean, it was just gay people you know, who came to the show and then the second year you could see gay peoples friends coming along. Then the third year you could see just gangs of straight people coming in because they have heard, they heard it was such a good laugh and so different, and then again you know, you saw even with the last Alternative Miss Cork we ever did, like you know over the years we went from doing small venues, to, to, to packing out the Savoy where you have got like eleven hundred people coming to this Drag show do you know what I mean, competition, drag, this, this drag competition you know, and I mean [pause] there was just like, it was actually half straight and half gay by the end of it you know. You had couples coming in, one of the shows we did was on Valentines night I think like there was an awful lot of straight couples went to it because they were just so bored of like going sitting in a restaurant with a candle between them, you know, it kind of gave people something else people to do. But I think it definitely influenced Cork I think it opened up a lot of peoples minds to diversity and to people’s sexuality as well and I think it also helped the gay scene to unite a bit because and create a bit of competition but it kind of pulled a lot of people out of the woodwork who wouldn’t necessarily be on the gay scene all the time and I think there was a lot of friends made from Alternative Miss Cork, and I think in general it was really good for the, for the, the, the Gay scene and [pause] the entire city. Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Eddie Kay: Drag queens, Gay scene, Alternative Miss Ireland, Subject The topic of the resource Stories and memories of LGBT life in Cork City and County. Description An account of the resource Eddie Kay was interviewed for an article on the Alternative Miss Cork competition that will feature in the Archive Magazine Issue 18. He was chosen as an interviewee because of his experience of organising and co-founding the Cork event. The interview came about due to knowing the interviewee socially, and from having experience of volunteering for the Alternative Miss Cork. Eddie talks about the establishment of the Alternative Miss Cork show as part of the city’s gay scene. Eddie explains how it was organised tentatively until it blossomed into an event attended by both gay and straight communities and eventually filled The Savoy theatre. After 20 years the Alternative Miss Ireland competition in Dublin closed and the Cork competition did the same. The Cork show broke down barriers between the gay and straight scenes and between the gay scene and local businesses. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 8 January 2014 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Eddie Kay Interviewer: Dermot Casey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00502_kay_2014 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork, Ireland, 1970s-2010s, Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/85">CFP_SR00502_kay_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/86">CFP_SR00516_browne_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/87">CFP_SR00518_dee_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/88">CFP_SR00519_casey_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/89">CFP_SR00521_mccarthy_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/90">CFP_SR00532_davis_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/91">CFP_SR00534_kiely_2014</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/92">CFP_SR00547_curtin_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/93">CFP_SR00548_mcallister_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/94">CFP_SR00549_neville_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/96">CFP_SR00555_whelan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/97">CFP_SR00556_lynch_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/98">CFP_SR00558_doherty_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/99">CFP_SR00561_kerrigan_2015</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/100">CFP_SR00576_odonnabhain_2016;</a> <div class="element-text">Youtube video showcasing interviews from our LGBT Archive Collection. Ten voices, eight topics, ranging from First Discovery, Coming Out, The Scene, Marriage and more. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enopWLdeOAw&t=2s</a></div> <div class="element-text"> Other CFP Material Realting to LGBT Life in Cork: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/document/130">CFP_SR00418_gerrety_2012</a></div> Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound 1990s 2000s 2010s AIDS Alternative Miss Cork Alternative Miss Ireland Drag Kings Drag Queens Eddie Kay Gay Pride Gay Rights Half Moon Club HIV Karl Spain LGBT Loafer's Maeve Higgins Panti Bliss Rachel Allen The Olympia The Savoy https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/0eb2f4dd61de7a04383e7a8f945b5896.jpg 231ee20281aab5a23a6206fb39694991 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource The Ballyphehane Oral History Project Subject The topic of the resource Life history interviews with the inhabitants of the Cork City suburb of Ballyphehane about life in the area pre and post city corporation development. Description An account of the resource In June 2016 Contact was made by the<a href="https://19162016committee.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Ballyphehane 1916 Centenary Commemoration Committee</a> with the Cork Folklore Project to establish an oral history project to coincide with the events in Ballyphehane marking the centenary commemoration of the 1916 rising. The goal was to collect the memories of the residents and have a night in the community centre where these interviews would be played for the community. Ballyphehane is a suburb in the Southside of the city between Turners Cross and Togher. It was built between the 1940s and 1960s and inhabited by families rehoused from the city centre, much like Gurranabraher and Knocknaheeny in the north side. The significance of the 1916 rising to Ballyphehane is that the streets are named after the leaders of the rising. It was decided that CFP researcher and Ballyphehane resident, James Furey, would head up the project and assist volunteers in technical training and interview techniques: all interviews were carried out under the auspices of the the CFP. This interviewing project is ongoing, and there have been a number of community listening events in 2017 and 2018. Interviews have been carried out by CFP staff James Furey and David McCarthy, and by Ballyphehane resident Arnie O'Connell. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2016 and ongoing Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Hilary Lyons; Arthur Walker Snr; John Chute; Marie McAllen (with contribution from Liam Ohúigín); Elizabeth 'Lizzie' O'Sullivan; Tom Falvey; Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley Interviewers: James Furey; Arnie O'Connell; David McCarthy; Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Catalogue Numbers: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>: Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with inhabitants of Ballyphehane detailing their lives pre and post corporation development (ca. 1930s to 2018). Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 7.wav Files Relation A related resource Furey, Jamie (2018) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a> Listening Events Library Lane Café Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> and <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a> 15th June 2017 Tory Top Library Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview James Furey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 57m 12s Location The location of the interview North Cathedral Visitors Centre Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley: Ballyphehane, Childhood, Community Subject The topic of the resource Life History: Ballyphehane, Childhood, Family, Rent Strikes, Community, Description An account of the resource Kieran Edwards and his sister Noreen Crowley (nee Edwards) are originally from Fr Dominic Road Ballyphahane, they start the interview by discussing the community that Ballypheheane nurtured. Noreen then talks of her youth and how she used to look after he siblings, she details the old places they used to frequent as children, the ‘Wella’, the ‘Furry Glen’, Lanes wood, and the Lough. Kieran then speaks of his mothers daily routine and her baking every morning. Kieran also mentions the humility of the community and how Ballyphehane got together with other working class people from other corporation/council development around the country in the rent strikes of the 1970s. They then mention the people of the community that will be forgotten for their work in the fledgeling suburb. They then speak of the changes in the community, the coming of business to the area and Ballyphehanes place in the city of Cork. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 4 September 2018 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley Interviewer: JamesFurey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00672_edwards-crowley_2018 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork; Ireland; Ballyphehane; Fr Dominic Road; 1950s-2000s Relation A related resource <div class="element-text"><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; </div> <div class="element-text"> Furey, Jamie (2012) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a></div> Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 1 .wav File Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound 1950s 1960s 1970s 1980s 1990s 2000s Ballyphehane Ballyphehane Oral History Project Ceela's Pub Childhood Family Fr Dominic Rd Joe Murphy Hungerstiker War of Independence https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/611baff2fac876eadaf9316673850c6e.jpg ec5857039d96e7fe6e4687e5073aa14b https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/27b1285887f8227734ecfcaf768f18dc.JPG c54a75c29aa3e8009e7074830b8ac78b https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/db91be7ba6b23ad610b18dba029c6d10.mp3 245e377861b7aaf24a17d46a87a3f6e8 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Landscapes of Memory Subject The topic of the resource Interview collection exploring the people's connection to the River Lee. The collection is comprised of four audio interviews totalling 397 minutes. Description An account of the resource In 2017 CFP Project Manager Tomás Mac Conmara secured funding to undertake a collaborative oral history project with the University of Massachusetts Lowell and CFP, relating to the sustainability of rivers, specifically the Merrimack River in Lowell and the River Lee in Cork. The aim of the CFP part of the project was to capture stories, experiences, impressions and opinions from a variety of people relating to the River Lee. Many of the interviews focused on how individuals used and interacted with the river, particularly for leisure. There was also discussion of the industry, fishing, wildlife, history, place names, pastimes, slang, childhood memories as well as hopes and aspirations for the future of the Lee. Kieran Murphy conducted the four interviews for this collection. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2017 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewer: <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a>. Interviewees: Liam Ó hUigín; Tom Spalding; Pádraig Ó Duinnín; Daniel Tanner: Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Catalogue Numbers: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/75" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00630_ohuigin_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/81" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00636_spalding_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/82" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00637_oduinnin_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/83" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00641_tanner_2017</a>. Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork; The River Lee; Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 4 .wav files Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Kieran Murphy Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Daniel Tanner Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 143m 57s Location The location of the interview Mardyke Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Interview Format This field should hold one of the following values; audio, video. Audio Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound The following is a short extract from the interview transcript, copyright of the Cork Folklore Project. If you wish to access further archival material please contact CFP, folklorearchive@gmail.com KM: Do you have any further experiences or anything else stand out? DT: Well I guess as it developed beyond when I started going to college I used to walk along the river everyday. That was my main interaction when it was just walking along it to work. KM: So what route would you have taken? DT: I think I took several other ones. Wherever I lived I would always just go to the river and then walk along it. But I used to walk along from Sawmill Street, which is on South Terrace. I used to walk from South Terrace and then join it up there and walk along. I had many nice experiences walking in the morning, like public experiences for everyone, like a seal with a huge salmon in it's mouth. Everyone was looking at it, I saw herons catching fish, cormorants catching fish. I saw a baby seal on the steps. I saw an otter with a fish. But these weren't all during that time period. But this was just kind of the same relationship I have to the river now, that I just like walking along it and looking in it. So I saw loads of things catching fish. I always interpret, whenever I see a wild animal, I interpret it as kind of a good sign or good omen. I interpret the animals behaviour in some sort of way. Like if a heron catches a fish I'm going to catch a fish today. They never mean anything bad but I always use it as a tool to elevate my mood beyond just that it's nice to see the thing. But then you're also like, oh now I can take all these risks, or if I see a seal swimming out to sea I'm like oh that's me headings towards something. Heading back to my opened or I'm so free or whatever you know? The baby seal resting on the steps, I'm having a nice rest. KM: So you see some meaning in what you see in the river in your own life? DT: Yeah yeah. Or I interpret it as a good or that it augurs well or a good omen. If there's such a thing as a good omen. Can you have a good omen or does omen mean bad? Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Daniel Tanner: River Lee Subject The topic of the resource Life History: Skateboarding, Carrigaline, Description An account of the resource Daniel grew up in Carragaline. He went to college and studied Physics first in Trinity and then in UCC because he missed Cork. He says he is now a post doctoral researcher in the Mardyke. He talks about how knowledge contained in folklore is superior to that contained in modern sciences. Daniel used to skate near the Lee the end of the south mall and by the opera house. He recalls being told a story of killer whale in the river. He talks about skateboarding culture and skating across the river from Charlie’s bar on the South Mall and how the council tried to stop skating on the streets Daniel says he had some great experiences along the river like seeing a seal with a salmon in its mouth, herons and cormorants catching fish. Otters, baby seals. He says the primary way he now interacts with the river now is by walking alongside it especially the north side of it out across from the Lee fields out towards the Anglers Rest pub. He talks about swimming in the Lee. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 24 October 2017 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewer: Kieran Murphy Interviewee: Daniel Tanner Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00641_tanner_2017 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork; Ireland; Carrigaline; Ballingeary; 1980s - 2000s Relation A related resource <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/75" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00630_ohuigin_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/81" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00636_spalding_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/82" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00637_oduinnin_2017</a>; Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource .wav Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/ce8f4b2ed07b04e537ce50b08d5b157a.JPG 064d0b2b88d7f4e8632ab78a024b3678 https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/c16ea61c0cfea861eb800c6485372a3f.mp3 8877e221cb86d8e3b8d3137d1d12f94f Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Landscapes of Memory Subject The topic of the resource Interview collection exploring the people's connection to the River Lee. The collection is comprised of four audio interviews totalling 397 minutes. Description An account of the resource In 2017 CFP Project Manager Tomás Mac Conmara secured funding to undertake a collaborative oral history project with the University of Massachusetts Lowell and CFP, relating to the sustainability of rivers, specifically the Merrimack River in Lowell and the River Lee in Cork. The aim of the CFP part of the project was to capture stories, experiences, impressions and opinions from a variety of people relating to the River Lee. Many of the interviews focused on how individuals used and interacted with the river, particularly for leisure. There was also discussion of the industry, fishing, wildlife, history, place names, pastimes, slang, childhood memories as well as hopes and aspirations for the future of the Lee. Kieran Murphy conducted the four interviews for this collection. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2017 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewer: <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a>. Interviewees: Liam Ó hUigín; Tom Spalding; Pádraig Ó Duinnín; Daniel Tanner: Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Catalogue Numbers: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/75" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00630_ohuigin_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/81" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00636_spalding_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/82" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00637_oduinnin_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/83" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00641_tanner_2017</a>. Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork; The River Lee; Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 4 .wav files Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Kieran Murphy Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Pádraig Ó Duinnín Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 74m 23s Location The location of the interview Farrenferris Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Interview Format This field should hold one of the following values; audio, video. Audio Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound The following is a short extract from the interview transcript, copyright of the Cork Folklore Project. If you wish to access further archival material please contact CFP, folklorearchive@gmail.com KM: What are your hopes for the Lee then, for the futre and what would you like to see happen? POD: I think it really is worth focussing on. It can be like what Kevin Corcoran has done and it continues in Europe and that's all gaining a bit of traction. And you have to be quite full on really to shift a whole mindset around, like even for myself from a civil engineering point of view I can understand the difficulty of having to just accept something like the environment or having to do substantial enough engineering works to alter something that was built and was built in good faith I suppose or in ignorance probably is a better way of putting it. But from any point of view it's understandable why it happened in a country starved of electricity and minimum need for it in a way. It also has a function protecting the city so there's a lot of things. Anything that can be done to allow the fish to go up and down and to mitigate the effect of the dam will alter the whole river. I think the growth of use of the river, it's blueways and all of that stuff is gaining traction and that will continue to develop. And there's more of the wildlife on the river. There's projects that are documenting the wildlife, there are artists involved in the wildlife, there are people making films about wildlife in the city. That's all making all of that valuable. And it's cleaner than what it was. It needs more cleaning, people on the water, experiencing that. That's the wish. KM: What are the Blueways? POD: Well, it's like blueways aren't necessarily on the water. Often they're just pathways that run along the banks of a river or along. So they're being developed all over the place now. It's usually on land. It's like greenspace, town planning and all of that, greenspaces would have been the big thing. And now the whole process has come around to realising the bluespace is also a resource. Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview <table> <tbody> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm .19cm;"> 0.00.00 - 0.09.00 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm .19cm;"> Background and early life Pádraig says he grew up in Coolcower, Macroom on a peninsula between the rivers lee and Sullane. He says it had a formative influence on his life. His father was a bus driver and his mother was a housewife. They were both from Irish speaking families. He went to school in Macroom. School didn’t agree with him at times. He says he’s been in and out of education since then. He trained for a while as a craft potter, he also worked as a labourer. He says he has a diploma in civil engineering and worked in civil engineering for 12 years and then started building Currach’s from about 18 or 19 years. He recalls getting toys his father made for Christmas. He says he lived in Marion terrace in Coolcower until he was 8 and then he moved to a cottage on an acre where they had a small farm. The bottom of their field bordered onto the lee and the Sullane was very close as well. A neighbour used to let him and his brother borrow a boat and the used to explore the rivers and lakes (phone rings at 4.14). He says he used to swim in the Sullane by the new bridge near the town. He says he didn’t do much fishing but his brother did a lot of course fishing. He recalls spying on German tourists the used to come and fish illegally with lights at night. He says that his brother and he used to go out in storms. They used to take two boats for the excitement to be out in a storm. He says his brother Tadgh has a big interest in the water he dives and swims and lifesaves. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm .19cm;"> 0.09.00 - 0.21.40 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm .19cm;"> Experience of being on the water and recollections of Cork City Pádraig says when you’re on the water you are in a totally different place even if you are in the middle of the city. You are completely independent and in your own space. He says you have command of that space and you’re not part of the madding crowd, you are an independent entity on the water and that is very important and you are seeing the city from a different perspective as well it’s just a completely different relationship with the city. In Cork on both channels of the Lee you move between cityscape with big buildings and people and cars to woodland and natural greens surroundings. Pádraig says even with other people on the water with you, you’re part of a unique group and you’re separate from everything that is going on and that is a pleasant feeling. He says not that long ago there was a tremendous amount of activity on the river. The fishermen on Crosse’s Green and French’s Quay used to bring the local children for a row down the river. Pádraig said he came to Cork city in 1975 and then there used to be loads of boats on the south channel of the Lee. The Flynn’s on French quay were still fishing and there were drift fishing down the Marinas and Blackrock. Paddy Flynn and his brother William used to fish from French’s quay. He recalls there was a rowing club on the cold Quay called riverside. He says each club used to have its own regatta and they would draw huge crowds. One in Tivoli, Blackrock, St Finbarr’s rowing club was in French’s quay. It faded away gradually. . He says the wildlife penetrate the city through the waterways with otters and kingfishers. He says a a friend f his say an otter on a flooded road near Douglas St. when asked about the boats the Flynn’s used Pádraig says the were called yawls, they were carvel built smooth hull wooden boats. He remembers Paddy Flynn’s boats were blue or green. He recalls pleasure boat racing was big in the 50’s and before. He recalls one story of a race in Cobh and they were very competitive and one boat was too long so the people in the boat basically made the boat smaller themselves by moving the transom and sawing off the excess planks to make the boat within the race rules. CFP NOTE: a transom is the surface that forms the stern of a vessel </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm .19cm;"> 0.21.40 - 0.36.20 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm .19cm;"> Reflections on the Lee Pádraig says the building of the dams had a huge effect on the Lee especially the Inniscarra dam and the pattern of the way the water is released and it had a huge effect on diminishing the salmon in the river. He says the dam affected the river from the city to Gougane on the ecology, the salmon, and on pearl mussels. He says the Lee was huge salmon river. The lack of flow had an effect on the ecology he believes. He also says rivers with dams smell different because the water is impounded. He says that the decapitated tree remind him of a Christy Moore more song about the destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Pádraig is asked if he knows any folklore about the Lee and he says because it’s a delta and a network of rivers that it reminds him of the everglades. The stories about it were that it was a place where you could live undetected and people couldn’t get at you and for also making Poitín recalls a story from the 1700 to 1800 about a man who came over the hill into Macroom, he was a crack shot who shot out the candle in Lord Massey’s house. His name had Gearagh init. He grabbed an old woman and put her on his back so they couldn’t shoot him and he ran into the Gearagh and he got away. There is also another story of the guards raiding the Gearagh looking for Poitín. They hired a boat man to take them around. Pádraig says if you approach a place in the Gearagh and then approach it from a different point you would not know it was the same place. So the boatman led the guards on a merry dance, the boatman was actually the Poitín maker. He says there was a long history of sport fishing on the Lee for salmon. He says he has more interest in fishermen who fished for a living because they have a deeper connection to the river. Paddy Flynn could see fish going up the river when Pádraig couldn’t see anything. Pádraig says Paddy Flynn used to wander the city going from one place along the river to another on both channels and he thinks he used to follow what were actually formerly waterways around the city. The fishermen had their own culture, they hated the corporation, the never took dole. They also fished bodies out of the river. He recalls a story he heard off Paddy he thinks, a sea captain was pulled from the river dead and sat in the stern of the boat and the misjudged the bridge and the bridge hit him and knocked him back into the river and they fished them out again. The captain had a lot of money on him and it was handed back. They were honest except when it came to bailiffs. They could also know where a body would end up if they knew the time the person fell in because they knew the tides. Pádraig recalls an incident on Lough Mahon in the 50’s maybe, the changed the relationship to the sea a number of people drowned fishing and a lot of people said I don’t want my children doing this and it changed a lot of people’s connection to the water. CFP NOTE: Gougane refers to Gougane Barra where the river Lee rises </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm .19cm;"> 0.36.20 - 0.53.00 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm .19cm;"> Further connections to the water and Meitheal Mara When asked by the interviewer is there still people today who have the connection to the water Pádraig says there are. He talks about a youngster who had a speed boat when he was 13 or 14 and hung out on the water he was different to people his age and Pádraig says he was a throwback. Also some of the fishermen who had savings got sailing boats “they wouldn’t be Yachties as such” but they are people who find a new way to be on the water. They still retain their culture he says. Pádraig is reminded in a previous interview that he said he would like to recreate the Marsh. He says he had completely forgotten it. He says he has an idea of a location. A little microcosm of nature and human interaction like the Marsh Arabs in Iraq and other locations around the world. When asked where the river finishes in his opinion he replies at Blackrock castle even there is seaweed before then. Pádraig is asked about founding Meitheal Mara he says he discovered boat building when he was nearly 40 and he’s been involved with Currach’s for ten years before that. Pádraig say’s French appreciate the boating culture and once people are on the water they are all the same. He also built one in the US and was told it had no context there and he should be building it in Ireland by Brion, the grandson of James Connolly. He says he had missions presented to him and he said it was easier to deal with the sate through organisations like FAS and individuals like Eammon Young who liked the idea and minimised the bureaucracy. As they were developing it they used people from west Kerry so the people from the city could encounter the Language and the songs and all that. That vision didn’t materialise as much as he hoped. He says the most marginal should get a chance to experience it. But there was always a mix of people which was important, people from a prison background mixing with people from a high professional level. When asked what make everybody the same on water he says it the culture of it. When you are at sea you are always being watched by other people who know the sae and the get angry if you don’t do the right ting and don’t respect the sea and put yourself in danger you are calling on other people to rescue you. He says there is a connection between people who know the sae and they are always looking out for each other. If a fisherman drowns, other fishermen from all over the country will come and search and search. Pádraig says he was involved with a member of a crew he rowed with recently drowned in Portugal and they were looked after in every way by everybody. Pádraig goes on to say the rules of the sea how power has to yield to sail or oar but he wouldn’t be putting himself in danger or putting loads of people in danger so they have to learn to in the harbour to respect the ships and not do foolish things. When they are rowing they sometimes get invited onto fancy yachts for gin and tonic because they are all people of the sea </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm .19cm;"> 0.53.00 - 1.14.23 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm .19cm;"> Inspiration for Meitheal Mara Pádraig. says there developed in New England a project helping marginalised kids build boats and it spread throughout the US. He also says you have to be impressed in the Basque country and Brittany in particular with how they value it. There is no real maritime history in Ireland the British took control of the seas very quickly. In Brittany every town had a boat building project going on building local community pride. (55.45- 1.01.30 Discussions in Irish language) Spent his holidays in his youth in the Gearagh, Inchigeelagh and another place [possibly sounds like Muncháin? Or Moncán?]. His family didn’t have anything to do with fishing or the sea so he wasn’t handed down any knowledge about that. Thinks that places names probably have some link with the river, but wasn’t able to think of any specific ones. “An Capaillín Bán” was first song he was taught and it mentions the Gearagh but does not have much of a description of or references to the river. He quotes the lines: “In Uíbh Laoghaire na nGaortha 'sea a chaith sise a saol, / Níor fhás sí puinn riamh mar ba dhual di ó gach taobh dá gaol” In Cúil Aodha/ Coolea there’s a strong connection connection with the River Sullane/ Abha an tSuláin [a tributary of the River Lee]. There’s an old idea that the River Sullane/ Abha an tSuláin takes a life (ie. kills someone/ someone drowns there) once every seven years and that it is the only male river in Ireland, the gender of the word in Irish is masculine. Mentions that salmon is connected with poaching in the those areas around Cúil Aodha/ Coolea and Ballyvourney/ Baile Bhúirne. Mentions a song which references the river. The song title is something like “Con Cronin's Boat” which was made out of the bonnet of a Beatle car. Say that they would write a song about anything at all like. 1.01.30 When asked what his hope for the Lee fro the future and what would he like to see happen he says if something could be done to let the fish go up and down the river to minimise the affect of the dam. The growth of blueways and the river is cleaner now and the return of wildlife is all good improvements. He explains that blue way are not always on water but are usually paths alongside the river and waterways. Pádraig recalls when a new bridge was being built at Lancaster Quay he says they say the plans for it and it was very flat and a barrier to navigation. There was a letter written to those in charge and a hump was put in it. Meitheal Mara has developed Corkum navigation and there is a map that tells you when the tides are right to circumnavigate the island of Cork (interruption for a phone call 1.06.46 - 1.07.25). Pádraig then goes talking about the lowest bridges in the city. He says Brian Boru and Clontarf bridges are the lowest, they used to be lifting bridges and on the south channel the bridge by the School of Comm [College of Commerce]. The older bridges with the arches are easier to navigate. He talks about Kevin Corcoran, he says a student of his won a young scientist award for a project on the Gearagh which is one of only 4 inland deltas in the world. Pádraig says Kevin Corcoran has been engaged with protection it both on a personal and scientific level for over 30 years. There has been a film made called River Run. He is also engaged with the EU in regards to protection of the Gearagh. He has a connection with it because his grandparents were moved from there to facilitate the flooding of the area. One of the things he regrets seeing is the shipping moving out of the city. He recalls that the south channel of the Lee was known as An Sabhrann Beag. Cían Ó Sé who cofounded Meitheal Mara thought that Bun an Tábhairne, the Irish for Crosshaven meant the end of the Sabhrann river, so so Crosshaven in Irish comes from something like Bun an tSabhrainne. And that this was related it to the River Severn and River Bride and other similar river names across Europe. Pádraig says that the Sovereign Rocks off Cork’s coast are not related to the river but instead refer to the king and queen of Britain when Ireland was under their control. INTERVIEW ENDS </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Pádraig Ó Duinnín: River Lee Subject The topic of the resource Life History: Macroom, Childhood, Meitheal Mara Description An account of the resource Pádraig is one of the founders of Meitheal Mara and the Ocean to City race Pádraig says he grew up in Coolcower, Macroom on a peninsula between the rivers lee and Sullane. He says it had a formative influence on his life. His father was a bus driver and his mother was a housewife. They were both from Irish speaking families. He went to school in Macroom. School didn’t agree with him at times. He says he’s been in and out of education since then. He trained for a while as a craft potter, he also worked as a labourer. He says he has a diploma in civil engineering and worked in civil engineering for 12 years and then started building Currach. Spending his holidays in his youth in the Gearagh and Inchigeelagh and other places. How his family didn’t have anything to do with fishing or the sea so he wasn’t handed down any knowledge about that. Was inspired to set up Meitheal Mara by a New England project helping marginalised kids build boats. Pádraig talks about his experiences with the River Lee and the wildlife who live on it. He discusses some of the placenames associated with the river. He compares the maritime culture in Ireland to that of other European countries. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 27 September 2017 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewer: Kieran Murphy Interviewee: Pádraig Ó Duinnín Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFO_SR00637_oduinnin_2017 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork; Ireland; Macroom; 1950s - 2000s Relation A related resource Other Interviews with Padraig in the Archive CFP_SR00017_ODuinin&Moore_1996 Other Interviews in the Collection <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/75" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00630_ohuigin_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/81" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00636_spalding_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/83" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00641_tanner_2017</a>. Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Language A language of the resource English, Irish Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource .wav Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound Ballyvourney Basque Blackrock Brittany Coolcower Coolea Currach Fishing Gearagh Gougane Barra Inchigeelagh Inniscarra dam Irish Language Meitheal Mara Nature Pádraig Ó Duinnín Placenames Portugal River Lee St Finbarr’s rowing club Sullane River The Marsh Wildlife https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/b10537ff20cffa481ac8652fb543d2cb.JPG 6bef50aba99d09dccb32c300741b5e3c https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/08fa2d611262bfec0e79a82afcbb50a0.mp3 500f3672a8e7a2f44e3977a967c0a61c Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Landscapes of Memory Subject The topic of the resource Interview collection exploring the people's connection to the River Lee. The collection is comprised of four audio interviews totalling 397 minutes. Description An account of the resource In 2017 CFP Project Manager Tomás Mac Conmara secured funding to undertake a collaborative oral history project with the University of Massachusetts Lowell and CFP, relating to the sustainability of rivers, specifically the Merrimack River in Lowell and the River Lee in Cork. The aim of the CFP part of the project was to capture stories, experiences, impressions and opinions from a variety of people relating to the River Lee. Many of the interviews focused on how individuals used and interacted with the river, particularly for leisure. There was also discussion of the industry, fishing, wildlife, history, place names, pastimes, slang, childhood memories as well as hopes and aspirations for the future of the Lee. Kieran Murphy conducted the four interviews for this collection. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2017 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewer: <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a>. Interviewees: Liam Ó hUigín; Tom Spalding; Pádraig Ó Duinnín; Daniel Tanner: Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Catalogue Numbers: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/75" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00630_ohuigin_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/81" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00636_spalding_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/82" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00637_oduinnin_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/83" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00641_tanner_2017</a>. Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork; The River Lee; Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 4 .wav files Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview Kieran Murphy Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Tom Spalding Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 98m 27s Location The location of the interview Farrenferris Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Interview Format This field should hold one of the following values; audio, video. Audio Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound The following is a short extract from the interview transcript, copyright of the Cork Folklore Project. If you wish to access further archival material please contact CFP, folklorearchive@gmail.com KM: I suppose we've talked a lot about the river and the urban setting. Do you have any experience or knowledge of the rest of the river and it's source? TS: I used to canoe quite a lot on the Lee, twenty odd years ago. Myself and a friend from work after work, we'd take my canoe and we'd pick a bit of the river and we'd canoe it from the weir above the bridge near the Ballincollig regional park, Inniscara, near the Inniscara Bar or whatever it's called. We'd canoe that area between those two weirs. We canoed from Ballincollig down to the city. We canoed on the lake in Inniscara, the resevoir. One time I canoed from, and it's not the Lee, but I canoed from Bandon to Kinsale on the Bandon river. And you get a totally different view of the journey. Sometimes the river runs close to the road and it's noisy and loud, and then you go around a bend, you go a hundred yards from the road you hear the birds singing, you see the kingfishers and stuff. You're in a different country really. If you canoe down the Lee from the Anglers Rest into town there's a point at which you see the County Hall. And it's just sticking out of the trees. You can't see any other buildings, you just see the County Hall and it's staggering, just shimmering there in the sunshine. You know then as you get close you start seeing the old mental hospital and waterworks and other parts of the city. It's a great way of coming into Cork, by far the nicest way to enter Cork is by river from the west. The problem in terms of canoeing is the river is actually pretty shallow there and a lot of the time you're walking, carrying the bloody canoe. Especially in the summer time, spots might only be four or five inches deep, rippling over the stones. So unless you find a perfect path through. We capsized plenty of times as well. But by the time you're kind of down the Straight Road, that area, it's a different river. It's very gentle and deep, it's great. But the Kingfishers are just amazing, amazing things to see. KM: What is it about them? TS: They seem much bigger than they really are. They're only about the size of a robin, so they're eight or nine centimetres long. But because they're electric blue and they move so quickly, they appear to be the size of a crow or something. You see this bluey orange dart. They can be sitting on a branch for god knows how long and you never spot them, even though they are bright blue. But when they move you just see this bullet of iradescent blue. You don't forget it, it's just really nice. So that'll be my experience, swiming at the Angler's Rest when I was a kid and canoeing up and down. At the time anyway, the river near Ballincollig was pretty stinky. I'm still not sure whether Ballincollig has anymore than primary sewage treatment. As far as I know that's taking the lumps out with a big net. I think they take the lumps out and apart from that it just goes straight in the river. And when you go through Ballincollig there's a definite kind of cloudiness to the water and a smell. And that would kind of put you off. But you go further down and it gets a bit diluted so it's not so bad, but just especially in the Ballincollig area it used to be really stinky. KM: And would you feel safe or would you feel any sense of danger when you're swimming or canoeing in the river? TS: No. I'm quite confident, probably overconfident on the water. We had lifejackets. If you capsize often enough in a canoe you'd kind of know what's coming next. You get to 'Here we go. Don't let go of the paddle.' That's the golden rule and then you're snookered. You can't make yourself go anywhere. Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview <table> <tbody> <tr> <td> 0.00.02 - 0.03.34 </td> <td> Introduction by Kieran establishing that this interview is part of the Lowell Project on the subject of the River Lee. Tom starts with a bit of his background stating that he was born in England and he moved to Cork at the age of seven when his father got a job in the Chemistry Department of UCC (University College Cork). Tom went to primary and secondary school in Cork and then went on to Dublin to do a post grad and worked in London for about five years. He returned to Cork in 1998 and has been here ever since. Since he came back he has lived on the Northside. As a child in Cork he grew up in Rochestown in what he terms suburbia. He didn’t like suburbia and prefers the living in the City. When asked what he didn’t like about suburbia he says he was a long way away from all his friend houses for starters. He adds that his mother didn’t drive and they didn’t have a car so it was quite isolating. He says the Summer holidays seemed very long and growing up as a teenager there seemed very little to do locally. He would cycle into town to meet his friends or take the bus sometimes. He speaks of the lack of facilities and adds that there wasn’t even a shop on the Rochestown Road when he was living there. He says there was a little old lady who had a store located just on the bend near where the Rochestown Park Hotel is now. He describes this store as a little corrugated iron shack and she sold Majors cigarettes, bread and milk. He says they thought she was a little old hag but he says she was probably a lovely lady. He says this lady and her tin shack were the shopping facilities between Rochestown and Douglas at the time. He jokes that he didn’t need Majors or milk or bread. He adds that she was kind of scary. He adds when she died the shop was demolished and a housing estate was built on her land. Then the Douglas Court Shopping Centre was built in the mid 80’s. Before that there very little around he says. When asked by Kieran what he would have hoped for locally he says a playground would have been good as there wasn’t one locally. He says there was nowhere to cycle your bike apart from the housing estate which was all cul de sacs. He says as a teenager there was always a sense that there was nothing to do, he adds that a lot of that would be your own state of mind. There as no cinema or thing that would attract a teenager he says. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 0.03.35 - 0.07.26 </td> <td> When asked could he see the rural River Lee from where he was in Rochestown Tom says they could see it. He says when they moved there in circa 1978/79 the following Summer his mother was dying to take them out for a daytrip as they didn’t have a car. From where they were living all that first Winter they were able to see the Douglas Estuary and in a certain light it looked sandy which he adds is not impossible for a river. The following Summer his mother decided they would go to the beach, she thought they could walk there. So they walked down the hill with buckets and spades etc. They went down a little farm track which was located near where the Bloomfield Interchange is now and where St Patricks Catholic Church on Rochestown Road now stands. (Note: St Patricks Church was built in 1991). Down that lane there was a farm. They hopped over a couple of hedges heading towards the river thinking that there would be a lovely beach. He says when they got there they found it was not a beach but a mud flat. Tom and his brother ran into the mud and he was they were black from the thick smelly mud. He says his mother was upset because she had planned the day out for them and it hadn’t quite worked out as she had planned. Tom says you could see the tide coming in and out. He says you could see across the river to Little Island and Tivoli Docks so he says this was one of the better things. He speaks of the disused railway line that is now a walkway and which ran out to Blackrock over the estuary. (Note: this is the Blackrock/Mahon walk which follows the old Blackrock railway line). Tom says this was all overgrown and virtually impassable in the late 70’s. He says it was only really made accessible in the early 1980’s maybe 1984/85 or 86. He remembers using it to cycle to school around that time. It was basically a barren track at first. He speaks of the old red painted steel bridge that runs over the Douglas River and that has girders on it. Tom says at that stage the bridge had no decking, just girders so you could cross the Douglas River at that stage but you would have to be very careful putting one foot in front of the other walking along the girders which he likens to a tightrope walk. He says not many people did this but a few tried it. Tom says he never did this himself. He says his father had what he says was a brilliant idea. His father looked in the river and saw what he thought were sea bass and Tom says no one in Cork ate sea bass in the late 1970’s. Tom says these were probably grey mullet. His father got it into his head that they were sea bass so he got a mackerel trace with five hooks on it on a line. He climbed out onto the red steel bridge and dropped the trace which he weighed with a lead weight off the bridge into the low tide and then tied it at the top. His idea was that he would go off and come back at his tide and then come back and pluck the fish off the trace. However he forgot about it for a week and came back and there was no sign of the trace so Tom says either the weight of the fish had pulled it into the water or someone coming along had spotted it and took the fish and line for themselves. He says his father didn’t try this again. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 0.07.27 - 0.12.15 </td> <td> In answer to the question did his father do stuff like this all the time Tom says not usually but he would sometimes get notions. Tom says they grew up in what could be called a ghost estate these days but it wasn’t called that then. The name of the estate was Rochestown Rise and it is still there. He says they needed a shed so his father picked up small windows for the shed from the building site. He say the estate was a bit of a shambles as it was built over the period of fifteen or twenty years over various booms and busts of the Irish building industry and it was built by several different developers who would build a few houses and then go bust and then another developer would go in and build a few more and then go bust and so on. He says all the houses are different and he quips that they are “all uniformly crap”. He says that there would always be things like bits of wood, concrete blocks, bags of nails, bits of glass etc lying around when Tom was young so they would make things like treehouses, dens and carts etc. Tom’s father decided to build a shed rather than buy one so he scavenged materials from the building site and built his own shed. Tom says his parents are not from Cork. His father is from Kingston in Surrey, England and his mother is from St Albans in Hertfordshire. He says they have no Irish blood at all which he says is unusual as many British people have an Irish granny somewhere down the line. He says they came because they were unemployed, his father’s contract in Leeds University had come to an end and he saw the job in Cork advertised, he applied for the job and he got it and they moved to Cork. Previously he had worked in the University Of Sussex and he had also worked in Ahmadu Bello University which is located in Zaria in Northern Nigeria and Tom lived there with his family for three years. He says these were all short term contracts which are still the model today. Tom says his father was lecturing chemistry. When asked does he have any memories of Nigeria he says he has loads of memories. One memory is when they tried to set fire to the bush; he and his friend where they lived in an ex pat community. He says this community was outside Zaria but it was not a gated community like the ones they would have now which would have armed guard etc. He says most of the residents were American, British, Dutch, French, German’s etc. He says there were just a few African families who would be well to do. He adds that the only family who had a colour television was one of the Nigerian families. Tom says the father of this family was nicknamed the Nigerian Prince, He doesn’t know who he was but he could afford a house in this community and colour television. Tom goes on to say himself and some friends decided to steal some matches and they went into their house (the friends family’s house?) and they waited till the cook had left then they sneaked in and took and the matches from the kitchen drawer, closed it and ran out. They then went out into the fields and he adds that the estate where they lived was some distance from a railway line which unfenced so you could walk right up to the line. Tom goes into detail about how in the dry season it doesn’t rain much and its 40 degrees centigrade every day and no clouds. They were lighting matches and setting bushes on fire and were quite happy with this for a while until one bush went up in a very large fire. They reacted to this by running away and he says for all he knew they could have burned thousands of acres but he doesn’t know what happened next. They got in trouble for stealing the matches in the end. He says you remember this kind of stuff. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 0.12.16 - 0.18.40 </td> <td> Tom says he didn’t have any preconceived ideas of what Cork would be like before he came here. Living in Nigeria he didn’t know any Irish people. He says in primary school his teacher Ms Crowther got the pupils to write him going away cards before he moved and most of the children spelled Ireland as Island. His knowledge of geography when he was seven was that Britain looked like a potter with a turban on and Ireland looked like a teddy bear. He says he never thought of Ireland or had any connections there before they moved there. He says he would have to check with his parents but he doesn’t think they had any pre conceived ideas about Cork. He adds that his father had been over to Ireland on a cycling holiday in the 1960’s around West Cork, Connemara and Kerry touring around. He thinks his mother hadn’t been over here before they moved. When asked about his first impressions of Cork he says they at first lived in Bishopstown in an estate called Don’s Court which is still there. He advises to never buy a house in Dons Court as it’s built on a bog. He says that Winter of 1978 was very damp and cold. He remembers that it was another ghost estate, the roads weren’t paved and there was no street lighting. He says there were ruts in the road and when they froze over they would have ice in them and he would break the ice. He remembers finding a hypodermic syringe in the ghost estate. He says that unlike nowadays this ghost estate had a night watchman. He doesn’t was paying for him but he had a little sentry box and he was supposed to keep away the element. He adds that he obviously wasn’t doing that great a job. He describes it a really “manky” place. He says the houses were new but they were all covered in mildew and mould and cracks in the wall and it was pretty grim. His parents said the rent was very expensive, he thinks it was 250 or 500 pounds a month. He says the landlord was Pearse Wyse who was a local Fianna Fail politician. Tom says Pearse would arrive every now and again or else one of his “minions” and Tom says Pearse Wyse would be driving a gold coloured Rolls Royce. He describes it as like something out of a comedy sketch. He says they were living in what he describes as a “piece of shit” house in a ghost estate. He adds that he is sure he was a lovely man in case anyone’s listening (Note: Pearse Wyse died in 2009). Another early memory of Cork is starting school and trying to learn Irish. He decided then that he didn’t want to learn Irish as to him it was a foreign language. He went to school in St Finbars National School in Gilabbey St. When they then moved to Rochestown he went to St Lukes National School in Douglas but he never got much further in Irish. When asked how long did it take for him to turn against it he quips probably fifteen minutes? He says it wasn’t the fault of the teacher. The teacher told the class they were going to be doing gaeilge and he didn’t know what she was talking about and he didn’t know what she was talking about but he decided he would engage with it. The teacher started the class doing an exercise and came around to Tom. She asked him if he knew anything about Irish. He asked the teacher what was the Irish for yes and she said that there isn’t really an Irish word for yes. He then asked what the Irish for no is and she said that there isn’t really a word for that either. He remembers thinking how is he ever going to cope with this language. He says the shutters came down from that minute and they didn’t really go up again for about ten years. He says he is much more positive about Irish now. He says he sees the beauty in it now and tries to encourage his children to engage with it. When he was a child he was coming from Nigeria where everyone spoke at least two languages and in some cases three. He says you would have English, also Hausa which is one of the major language groups and then they might speak a tribal language. He says in Nigeria they had servants in the house. They came with the house and when they started renting it the servants turned up for work. Tom says that according to his mother he became fairly fluent in Hausa when he was living there. He still has one expression “Sannu da aikî” which means greetings at your work. He says it is a formal greeting. He was used to the idea of bilingualism and he says when he came to Ireland everyone spoke English so he was trying to learn this language that nobody spoke on a day to day basis and he thought at the age of seven that there was no point to it though he does see the point of it now. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 0.18.42 - 0.22.05 </td> <td> When asked what caused him to change his mind he says he had the luxury of giving up Irish after the Enter Cert so he had compulsory Irish from the age of eight to the age of fourteen. When it was no longer compulsory he says he became much more open to it. He says his attitude really changed in the last five years when he started writing his book Layers (Layers: the design, history and meaning of public street signage in Cork and other Irish cities). He was writing on the subject of street signage and street names in Cork and he says a lot of that goes back to the Irish language. He says as part of this he interviewed Eamon Langford who has links with Cape Clear. Tom says he opened his eyes (to the Irish language). Tom then found a book by Séamus Ó Coigligh called Sráidainmneacha na hÉireann. This book was about street names in Irish and there was a chapter on street names in Cork which Tom got translated from Irish. Since then he’s been much more well disposed towards the Irish language. His children do Irish in school and that has changed his attitude too. He says historically speaking the introduction of mandatory learning of Irish in the state in 1926 has done very little to prevent the decline of the language whereas in Northern Ireland where it is optional the language is going quite strong. He says there are Unionist communities picking it up as well as Nationalist. He says in that case it is something you do because you love it and there is a point for the removal of the mandatory rule. He says that Douglas Hyde said in 1918 when the Gaelic League was banned by the British that it was the best thing that ever happened to it. He says ten years before that membership had collapsed. When the British banned it it became subversive and membership shot up again. He jokes that they should do the same with Irish to increase its popularity. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 0.22.06 - 0.27.13 </td> <td> Kieran asks Tom if he ever saw anyone else fishing at the spot where his father had tried it and Tom says not on that stretch. He says it’s probably because it’s marshy and tidal. There aren’t many spots where you can to the river. He mentions Hartys Quay as a place where you can get to the river which is by the Rochestown Inn. He says Mahon Peninsula wasn’t accessible as there wasn’t a walkway or paths then. He says also its mostly grey mullet in the water around there. As grey mullet is a bottom feeder it tastes like fishy mud and it doesn’t have a sweet flavour. He says all you could do with it is stew or curry it. He says this sis a reason why many people would not go fishing for it. He says he ate it once in France, he adds the French will eat anything. He went to the aquarium in La Rochelle and the tanks had information explaining where the grey mullet is found, its eating habits and saying it was delicious etc. He says there were tasting tips on all the fish in the tanks. He adds that he’d be willing to eat it but it’s not a fine food. He adds that he sees a lot of Eastern Europeans fishing here for fish that the Irish won’t eat such as carp or roach. They especially love carp which is another bottom feeder. He says that even they don’t go after the grey mullet so he says maybe it’s just the French. When asked where does he normally see people fishing these days he says he lives in Sundays Well so he would see people fishing around the Shakey Bridge. On the North Mall you would see people fishing. Also he sees a lot of people fishing along the Weir by the Old Cork Waterworks on the Lee Road. It always amazes him how popular it is. He says it’s very much a working class thing with people in the city. He often chats to people and asks what they’ve caught etc. He says they always have strong working class accents, he says not once has he spoken to someone who sounds like they might come from Rochestown Road. He says it is young and old, you would see young lads skiving off school etc. He adds that he’s only seen a woman or girl once or twice. It’s nearly always males he says. He says it’s great that they have that connection because threes a perception that working class or city people don’t care about the environment. He adds that these people would have their fishing gear but they wouldn’t have waders or fishing clothing but hoodies etc. They would be smoking cigarettes and chatting away while fly fishing by the Shaky Bridge. He looked at them and realised that if you took away their fishing rods and left them with their hoodies and smoking their fags people might think they are dodgy characters loitering but put a rod in their hand and they look like sportsmen. They are them a man of leisure and in touch with nature. He jokes that they might not be that but that is the impression. He also says give a couple of fellows out wandering a dog and they are respectable members of the community. He says without the dog they might look like trouble. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 0.27.15 - 0.33.10 </td> <td> He agrees that the river Lee is an important resource. It is hugely important for a lot of people. People fishing on the Lee are engaging with it directly. He says walking through Fitzgerald’s Park on the Friday before the interview he saw an otter directly below the Shaky Bridge. He says he has also seen seals and herons and water birds there as well. He says it is amazing to see such wildlife more or less in the centre of town. He says it is a great privilege and there is no entry fee, you need just go down the river and see coots and moorhens, ducks and geese and otter. He says you can see the grey mullet still but not as much. Tom asks Kieran if he remembers the killer whales which swam up the River Lee about ten to fifteen years ago. (Note: He is referring to when three killer whales entered Cork Harbour and swam upstream in the Summer of 2001). Kieran remembers them being spoken of. Tom says that the Summer before the killer whale river the river Lee was black with mullet. He says that there were so may you could have walked from one side of the river to the next on them. He says there were shoals of hundreds silvery grey fish. After the killer whales there were virtually none. He says they “hoovered them up” ie they ate a great many of the mullet. He says since then its taken years for the population to slowly grow back. Tom says he thinks it was the year 2000 that the whales came. He says they hung around City Hall for a week. He says they demolished the mullet. He says he thinks there were four or five killer whales. He says that after they left one of the older females was found dead. There was a theory that the female had become ill and the pod decided to come into the Harbour to let the female recuperate and to feed. He says there are photographs of the killer whales outside the City Hall which is something you don’t see everyday. Tom says he missed the whales as he thinks he might have been in America at the time. He was doing a lot of work in the States at the time he says. Tom speaks about the Shakey Bridge. He says the name is well known as it shakes. He says he has written elsewhere that he thought that someone had tried to stiffen it to take the shake out of it fifteen to twenty years ago but he has looked at it again and they didn’t. What they did was they installed lighting on the bridge around the time of the Millennium as part of a project to put lighting on all the bridges. He states that if you have a copy of Tom’s book Corks Twentieth Century Architecture the bit about Daly’s Bridge aka the Shakey Bridge is not true. He says it has become a tourist thing to come and make the bridge shake by jumping on it. He says that he was young the bridge would automatically shake itself when you walked across it. He sees Americans on the bridge saying they must shake the bridge and likens it to kissing the Blarney Stone. He says he doesn’t mind the bouncing up and down on it so much but he says sometimes kids swing from side to side on it. He says when they do that his feeling isn’t so pleasant and you do hear it banging away. He says there is quite a lot of corrosion on the bridge at present so he adds that this is something the Council should look into. He says the building of the bridge was paid for by a man called Daly who lived in Sundays Well (James Daly). Tom says his family were in the soft drinks business and manufactured Tanora. (Note: the company was John Daly & Co and they manufactured Tanora). Tom says it took a while to sort out the building of the bridge because there was a ferry house on the site. He says the ruins of the ferry house can still be seen just beside the north buttress of the bridge. Tom says the ferryman and his family relied upon the ferry that ran across to the Southside for their income which they had legal right to. The legal rights had to be bought before the bridge could be built. That was in 1926. Tom says the bridge was designed by City Manager Stephen Farrington. It was built in Westminster London and then brought to Cork where it was assembled like a big mechano set and he says it’s been shaking ever since. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 0.33.1 0 - 0.36.25 </td> <td> Kieran asks Tom if there were many similar ferry points on the river Lee before bridges were built. Tom says there were ferry points up to quite recently. He mentions a pub on the corner of the Lower Glanmire Road called the Ferryboat Inn just before you get to Water Street there was a quay and a ferryman would row people across the river from there to the other side so they could get to Pairc Ui Caoimh on the occasions of GAA matches. Tom says the man running this was operating it right up to the 1980s and possibly the early 90’s. He says it was not an official ferry and there were question marks over how safe the small boat was but he adds no one ever came to any harm. He would have been the last of the ferrymen. Tom speaks about another ferry that went across the river where the Shandon pedestrian bridge is located now on Popes Quay, he says that this stopped in the 19’th century. He says maybe after they built the new Patricks Bridge in the 1850’s. To illustrate this point he says in 1861 there was a ferry crossing on the Northside of the river at the North Gate and there was a crossing at the site of Patricks Bridge and there was nothing in between. There was no Christy Ring Bridge, no pedestrian bridge. He says between the two it was about the third of a mile so it necessitated the ferry service especially for people going to mass in St Marys Church on Popes Quay or if someone was living in Shandon and wanted to go to town there was the little ferry that would take them there. He says he is not aware of any ferries on the south branch of the Lee but he is in doubt that there were ones operating. He doesn’t know if there was a ferry between Blackrock and Tivoli but he says there must have been one. Kieran returns the talk to the more recent ferry boat operator on the Lower Glanmire Road. Tom says he would have gone as far as the electricity power station and he would not have gone as far as Blackrock. Tom has a feeling from his memory that this boat was a fourteen or sixteen foot rowing boat punt. That is the image he has in his head of it. He wasn’t in the boat itself. He remembers hearing about it and seeing it from the Lower Glanmire Road when he thinks they were driving into town on a Sunday and the name of the pub the Ferryboat Inn made him put two and two together. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 0.36.26 - 0.43.23 </td> <td> When asked did he ever swim in the river Tom says he didn’t swim in the City but he did swim up by the Anglers Rest pub in Carrigohane when he was young. He describes a track which is across the road from the Anglers Rest and runs along the river Lee and there’s a very sharp bend of the river about a quarter of a mile on and there is a broad pool with a pebbly beach. He says this was safe as the water was slow enough and warm enough but he says he’s not quite prepared to swim in the City Centre. He does say that the water is a lot cleaner now than it was when he was young. He says that every Summer when he was young the river would turn the colour of green snot. It would be an opaque colour and you wouldn’t be able to see the bottom of the river. Every year the City Council would say it was not the sewage but it was the fault of the IFA and the farmers (through farm effluent and silage) and the farmers in turn would say it’s nothing to do with them but the fault of the sewage. He says this argument went on for twenty years and the river stank. He talks about the song The Boys Of Fairhill and the line that goes “how does Fr Matthew Stick it?” and he says this was true to life regarding the smell. He says in the late 1990s Cork Corporation implemented the EU’s Water Directive to clean up the river and began the Cork Main Drainage scheme to pump the waste material out to Little Island. He says it’s a lot better than it used to be. In answer to the question of did the pool where they swam by the Anglers Rest have a name he says he didn’t have a name for it. He is sure there was a name for it but he can’t think of the name off the top of his head. He says he would go there with the children of a family who were friends of his parents from Ballincollig and he says they might know its local name. Talk returns to the anglers on the Lee whom Tom would speak to. When asked would they catch much Tom says they would always be very cagy about what they caught. If it was a trout or something similar they might tell you but if they caught a salmon they wouldn’t as the salmon are protected and you are supposed to have tags and you get a certain amount of tags every year which you are supposed to display. (Note: this refers to the license for Salmon fishing). He jokes that usually they say they caught noting even though there might be a bag that obviously has a fish in it. He says as well if they’re fishing they don’t want everyone to know there’s salmon there as that would be their spot. Tom says that the relationship between the City and the river is poor. He says we ignore it and till the late 90’s it was treated as an open sewer. He says it is still like a sewer in places and if you go down the river at low tide you can see raw sewage coming into the river in places though he says it is nothing like what it used to be. He says as an example on the Western Road there are a series of semi detached houses called St Finbar’s Place just before you get to the gates of UCC on the Southside of the road. (Note: St Finbar’s Place is on the opposite side of the road). He says those houses back onto the Lee and nearby what he describes as “big ugly apartments” nearby where the petrol station used to be. Tom says if you look at an old ordinance survey map of this area you can see there was an old outdoor swimming area on that part of the river. He says it was segregated and there was a men’s and a women’s area. That was south facing and a natural place for swimming he says and it is all gone now he says. He goes on to say that if you go to the other side of the river on O Donovan’s Road the houses along there have put big fences up so they don’t see the river or engage with it. In different countries people would have different attitudes to the river he says. He speaks about the town of Bamberg in Bavaria where they have rows of houses backing out onto the river and people would have a jetty or flowerbeds or a willow tree planted and people will have appropriated the river for their garden. He says it is the same along the Surrey reaches of the Thames it is considered prestigious to have a riverside home but here in Cork it is the opposite, we box it up and try to pretend it isn’t there and throw rubbish into it from behind the hedge. Tom say several of the houses which he was speaking about seem to have been bought by the same person and they have covered about a quarter of an acre in tarmac covering the gardens and built concrete walls facing the river. He says this is a dysfunctional relationship with the river. He says this is turning your back on the river. He says all these houses face the main road, he asks what is so great about the Western Road and says he would have it facing the river. He says we see the river as a threat and a source of problems, we don’t see it as a source of income or recreation. He says more power to the fellows who go fishing and those who go kayaking on the river as they are a tiny minority. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 0.43.24 - 0.50.24 </td> <td> Continuing on this theme he says many people in Cork would be glad to see the river filled in. When asked by Kieran why this is he says he doesn’t know. He says attitudes are learnt. He says we need to educate ourselves to see it in a different way. He says it is hard to get that discussion going. He goes on to speak further about the long term relationship of the river with Cork. He compares it with that of Dublin which is often said to not have a great relationship with the river but he says in comparison most of the major buildings do face out onto the river and they seem to engage with it more. He speaks of the major buildings in Cork that do face the river such as City Hall and the Savings Bank on Lapps Quay and a few more. Quite a lot of Corks buildings turn their back on the river. He says a lot of buildings in Cork turn their back on the river and as an example he speaks of the quayside that runs from Lavitt’s Quay and takes in the Coal Quay and Bachelors Quay and Kyrl’s Quay. He speaks of “the monstrosity” Dunne’s Stores car park and he describes its designer Bertie Pope as “the world’s worst architect”. He says none of this is capitalising on the river and he says he speaks about the fact that Cork City Council built a four lane dual carriageway running from Merchants Quay to Bachelors Quay and how this has messed yup any chance to make further use of the river along there. He ponders on why this decision was made and if anyone in the Council voiced the opinion that better use could have been made of the river. Kieran asks as to whether there is a tension between transport infrastructure and the river. Tom says there is always going to be this tension as in Cork you have two main branches of the river and the island in the middle getting ion and out of the City is a problem and building more bridges is sometimes necessary. He says sometimes these can be beautiful and add to the City but they can also totally “banjax” areas of the City. He says as an example the De Valera and Collins bridges which run from Penrose Quay across to Lapps Quay and on to Albert Quay which were built in the mid to late 1980’s and carry the main Cork to Dublin Road. He says this lane of traffic has cut off and killed the Customs House and its surroundings. He talks about the fact that this building has changed hands and the plans to build a skyscraper at the end of the island it is on. A lot of people would like to see a cultural centre of some sort similar to Covent Garden in London which developed a former industrial centre. Tom says the Customs House area would be ideal and the light is fantastic and the views are great. However he says as it is cut off from the rest of the City by a national road he says it is hard to see how this could be made to work unless you build underpasses and overpasses etc. He speaks about the decision to build the two bridges thirty years ago and says in retrospect it would have been better to go down river and built a large bridge perhaps with a lifting mechanism. He says this would have been a bit more expensive in the short term. He says this could have gone across from Railway Street To Kennedy Quay and left the island as it was. He says then it would have been much easier to include the Customs House area in the City centre. He uses this analogy to illustrate how these bridges are needed but if they are ill thought out or badly located they screw up an area forever as he says no one is going to agree to demolishing these two bridges and starting again. He speaks about a proposed pedestrian bridge going across from Parnell Place to Patricks Quay but he says this has been talked about for ten years and it is something that developers dangle every now and again and is then forgotten. He say there is even talk of a second pedestrian bridge linking the bottom of Grand Parade with Sullivan’s Quay which he says is a stupid idea considering Nano Nagle Bridge is nearby. He says the proposed Parnell Place to Patricks Quay bridge would be a very good idea as it would really help McCurtain St. He says McCurtain St should be a main shopping St but is all taken up with taxi cabs and burger joints. He says this bridge would balance things around. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 0.50.25 - 1.00.40 </td> <td> Kieran asks the Tom the hypothetical question of what he would do if he had the power to pull all the levers such as what he would change about the Lee if he had the power to do so. Tom says peoples attitudes are the hardest thing to change. He says it’s not just a Cork City thing and if you go canoeing down any river in Ireland you will see farmers throwing old gates, cars etc into the river. He says outside town’s people throw plastic bags of rubbish into the river and these attitudes are hard to change. He goes on to speak more on peoples attitudes to the river and convince them they are not dangerous and smelly. He jokes if he was a benevolent dictator that would be easy. On asked what are the threats that people see from the river he says the biggest threat are the plans to build walls high walls along stretches of the river in the city. (Note: this refers to The Lower Lee (Cork City) Flood Relief Scheme). This refers to the “St Finbars Place mentality” of not wanting to see the river. Once the river disappears behind the walls our poor relationship with it will be even worse. He goes on to speak about the negative effects of the proposed plan. He describes the way its been handled a s a total mess as its being treated as a drainage plan and not treated as piece of urban design. He says it’s being designed by civil engineers who know about flooding and drainage. He says there what he calls a couple of nasty things about it that have only become apparent to him recently. One would be trying to prevent upstream flooding. He says they describe the River Lee as flashy” as in it’s prone to flash flooding from water running off farmland etc. Tom says it would be possible to speak to landowners etc and try to get them to prevent the flashing. However he says they are a powerful lobby group and the OPW do not want to take them on and have put it up to the citizens of Cork. He says it is easier to go head to head with citizens who have a poor relationship with the river and no leadership than against powerful lobbies. He describes this as a quasi Stalinist system. The second thing is the idea of walling in the river some of which will be six foot high and he says some children will not be able to see the river. He compares it to Donald Trumps wall proposal to “keep out the baddies”. He says we are being sold the wall as a simple solution. He says what the OPW is not telling people is that no city in the world has done this before and it is not tried and tested. He says it is experimental and costly and there is no guarantee that it will work. He says for this wall to work every sluice and culvert and sewer would have to be found and sealed and the chances of this happening will be slim and the wall itself may fail. If the wall collapses it would lead to lack of life he says. He speaks of the Dutch and their methods of flood control and he says that they try to minimise the height of flood walls. He speaks of the government’s unwillingness to engage with the farming lobby. The other issue he raises is that of heritage and aesthetics. He speaks about the appreciation of heritage and craft but he says this is not a measurable argument to be put in place against the wall. He says we have to find other ways of fighting it. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 1.00.43 - 1.09.24 </td> <td> Kieran asks if under an alternative plan we would have to accept limited folding in Cork. Tom says that most of the flooding in Cork is the regular flooding of the Oliver Plunkett St area and this is caused by high tides and easterly winds plus heavy rainfall. He says the proposed alternative plan by Save Cork City (the lobby group opposed to the OPW’s plan) would be for a tidal barrier in Lough Mahon. Save Cork City propose building this barrier across the mouth of Lough Mahon which Tom says would prevent high tides coming in and also provide capacity behind the barrier for flood waters coming down the barrier. He says it would be a case of closing the barrier when ever there is a flood warning and releasing the water as soon as possible afterwards. He thinks would stop nine tenths of the type of flooding we see in Cork, he said you would still get floods during once in a lifetime Hurricane Harvey type madness”. He goes on to say that a flood barrier is a tried and tested technology. When asked by Kieran where in Lough Mahon would the barrier Tom says he hadn’t been involved in the design but went to a presentation. He says the proposed tidal barrier would be located on the neck of Lough Mahon where it is narrowest from Fota Island across to Passage. He goes on to speak more about the possibility of flooding in Little Island and Hop Island and that needs to be addressed. He adds that the type of flooding that we see on Oliver Plunkett St and South Mall would be gone. Kieran asks if the barrier would disrupt shipping and Tom says the plan is to make a moving part of it that is almost always open. He speaks about the permission of Cork Port Authority to extend in Ringaskiddy so all the big deep water ships will be directed there instead of into the City apart from the Tivoli Container Port. He says this is also likely to close and everything to be moved down to Ringaskiddy. Kieran asks Tom the question of where he thinks the Lee ends. Tom says he supposes it ends at the Customs House, the character of it is very different after that where it is quite broad and tidal and sluggish but this he says is quite an arbitrary. A general discussion on this topic follows and Tom talks about the top of the tide which is the limit of where the tide will reach on the riverside. Tom speaks about the tides on the Thames and how the tide comes in as far from Teddington which is ten miles from London Bride and twenty miles from the mouth of the river. Comparisons with the Thames and the Lee are discussed. The tidal part of the Lee is quite short he says. Kieran asks Tom if he got his way what would the buildings along the Lee look like or what kind of activities would he envisage. Tom says some architects are starting to take the river into consideration. He speaks of the River Lee Hotel on the Western Road as having a balcony that is well used though it is not directly facing onto the river. He also mentions the Glucksman Gallery on the grounds of UCC as a building that takes into account its surroundings. He say regarding the City Centre there aren’t many large sites available on the river so it’s hard to answer that question. He mentions the former Dunne’s Stores site on North Main St and says it is disused for the last year or two. He talks about the Dunne’s Stores multi storey car park as being used. He says there is a delivery apron 100 feet wide outside the multi storey car park and he says he would like to se this redeveloped as a plaza/ accommodation / retail mixed use site. He says this stretch of the road isn’t the busiest so there might be a chance to do something here. He says the other site along the river with potential is the site at the top of the Coal Quay near the pedestrian bridge that’s had planning on it for the last twelve years and it’s a natural place to integrate into the river. Along with the Customs House these are the obvious spots he says are right. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 1.09.25 - 1.13.25 </td> <td> Kieran asks Tom about leisure and use of the river. Tom says you see canoe groups and Meitheal Mara (a community boat building group) using the river for a long time. He mentions the little marina that Port Of Cork built on Customs House Quay as a getting a lot of use which he says is brilliant. He speaks of the excitement when the Tall Ships come to Cork. He believes water based events like this as engaging people with the water. He says he would like to see someone do water based tours around the city, the tides mitigate against it but he says it might be possible for some enterprising person to take people on water tours. Kieran asks Tom about the group Meitheal Mara and Tom say’s he is not involved in them, but he has friends who are. Meitheal Mara are involved he says in traditional boats and boat making and they run a workshop where they rebuild Curraghs and Ballaugh traditional Irish boats. He says they would get involved in things like the Ocean To City race and you would often see them training on the river. He says they would go up the river as far as Pres (Presentation Brothers College) he says there is a weir at Pres and it is harder to get up any further. Tom says that ironically there is no history of the kind of boats Meitheal Mara use being used on the river Lee so he describes it as an invented tradition. The subject moves to the subject of raw sewage visible at low tide. Tom says it’s milky and has lumps in it, he says it is small amounts but it is constant. He says the Cork Main Drainage takes away about 99% of the poo but engineers always have to make a call and sometimes you will get a sewer shared between five houses leaking sewage. He says to make the scheme work all of these drains will have to be blocked up and re diverted. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 1.13.27 - 1.25.15 </td> <td> Kieran asks again about Hartys Quay in Rochestown and Tom says it is now a gated community. Tom thinks Harty were a local family. He says he remembers buildings on the quay like sawmills. He can’t quite recall if they were steel frame or wooden but he recalls them as big dark lumbering warehouse buildings there in the 1970s and 80’s. Kieran asks Tom does he remember any folklore or stories related to the river to which Tom says he doesn’t. Tom does add when they moved here that for ten to fifteen years heading into the early 1990’s there would always be a pair of wooden punts tied up in the river between Parnell Bridge and the Trinity Footbridge. He says they would always be tied up in the middle of the river and he never saw anyone getting into them. He says there would be another two boats upside down on the lean to on Georges Quay and Tom says he was always curious why these boats were always on the river. Tom says that someone told him that these boats were owned by a family called the O Flynn’s who had a license for salmon fishing between the City Centre and Blackrock Castle. He doesn’t know actual salmon fishing they did but they were keen to keep the license and one of the conditions was that they had to keep the boats on the river while they had their license. Tom says as time went on the boats on the river disappeared and the ones on the quayside became more and more rotten. Tom says he doesn’t know if that is all gone or if the O Flynns are all passed away. He believes this family also had a pub on Barrack St called the Clannad which he says was No 111 Barrack St. He says it was a different branch of the family that had this. Tom say those fishing rights probably go right back to the 17’th century and possibly further back and he says its interesting to see those rights still being exercised as recently as the 1980’s and 90’s. He adds that if you take a historical view of the river it’s a more pleasant condition and environment than at any time five or six hundred years. He says in terms of cleanliness and in terms of wildlife it’s in far better condition than it was in the 18’th century. He adds that in the 18’th century not only was the sewage going into it but waste from the Blackpool tanneries and food waste etc. He says there was an ongoing problem of dead babies being found drowned in the river. He says a lot of this was linked to unwanted pregnancies and prostitution. He says if you view it in these historical situations the river despite us turning our backs on it has improved. Kieran asks if there was anything that we did with the river in the past which was positive and which has now been lost and that we could revive again. To this Tom replies that we used to use the river as a source of energy and power. He says as an example the Lee Mills which is now the Lee Maltings and home to the Tyndall Institute of UCC maybe there is the potential for micro power generation. He says in the past the river infrastructure was maintained better and there are a number of weirs in the city that provided ways of pooling the water and slowing it down as well as creating fisheries. Tom says most of these weirs are in poor condition and not maintained. He says there used to be a crew with a small rowing boat employed by the City Council and they would go around and inspect quay walls and every bridge and repoint stones, remove vegetation. He says it was done from Pres, down the river up to the Beamish Brewery and this was their permanent job. He says they were abolished in living memory and a woman in her 70’s told him she remembers them as a child. He says since they were abolished there has been no probably preventative maintenance on the river. He says now the bridges on the river have been taken over by the National Road Network but there is no one looking after the quay walls etc and he says this is something that will return to “bite us in the ass”. Tom speaks about a word that came up called campshire. He describes it as a projecting part of a quayside with columns and a deck that overhangs and are a section of river infrastructure and used for loading. He says there is one on Georges Quay, one on Albert Quay and another on Albert Quay East. He goes on to say how a lot of this river infrastructure is in poor condition and. Tom say the campshire on Albert Quay East was in use till quite recently but not the others. He says they are falling down at the moment. He says they should be assessed for historical interest and kept if possible. He says if they were safe to use they could be used for a riverside amenity. He says on Albert Quay there is a modern wooden deck with a café and a few hundred feet away is the campshire which nobody uses. He adds that the boardwalk running along Lapps Quay and the one by the Electric Bar at the bottom of Grand Parade has also been a success and they have managed to avoid the problems of the Liffey Boardwalk in Dublin which include anti social behaviour, drunkenness and people taking drugs and stealing. He says he’s never seen any of that on the Cork boardwalks, there are homeless people there he says he’s never seen any hassle there. He says he can happily sit there with his kids unlike he says the Dublin Boardwalk which he says he wouldn’t dream of doing. He describes the Dublin Boardwalk as a disaster. He describes them as quite small and discrete though the bars and cafes are close to each other so they are monitored in a passive way. He also says Dublin has a much bigger anti social behaviour problem though Cork is not immune from this. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 1.25.17 - 1.29.48 </td> <td> Kieran asks Tom about his experience of the river outside the City and its source. Tom says he used to canoe a lot on the Lee about twenty odd years ago. He and a friend from work would go after work and canoe a part of the river they would pick. They would canoe from the weir above the Inniscarra bridge near Ballincollig Regional Park and canoe from Ballincollig down to the City and canoed on the lake on Inniscarra Reservoir. Once he canoed from Bandon to Kinsale on the Bandon Road. He says it gives you a totally different view and he says some stretches are quite near the road and you can see and hear the traffic and then you might turn a corner and it’ll be peaceful and you might see Kingfishers. He says if you canoe down the Lee from the Anglers Rest bar into town all you can see of the City is the County Hall skyscraper which you can see sticking out of the trees. You can’t see any other buildings he says. He says it is staggering to see it shimmering in the sunshine. He says you then start seeing the old mental hospital (Our Lady’s Hospital on the Lee Road) and the Cork City Waterworks. He says it is the nicest way to enter the city by river from the west. He says the problems regarding canoeing are that the water is quite shallow there so you spend a lot of time walking carrying the canoe especially in the Summer. He says he has capsized a lot of times as well. Once you are down the river by the Straight Road the water is deeper. He goes on to speak about the riverside bird the Kingfisher. He says they are amazing to see and they seem much bigger than they really are. He says they are about the size of a robin but because they are electric blue and because they move so fast they appear the size of a crow. He says you see a blue/orange dart when they move which he says is like a bullet of iridescent blue. He says they might be sitting for ages and you might never see them till they move. He says that would be his experience of the river outside the City, swimming by the Anglers Rest as a child and canoeing. He adds that the river outside Ballincollig is “pretty stinky”. He doesn’t know if Ballincollig has anything other than primary sewage treatment which takes the lumps out with a big net but everything else goes into the river. He says when you go through Ballincollig the water is quite cloudy and there is a smell. Kieran asks Tom if he would feel any sense of danger swimming or canoeing in the river. Tom says no, he feels quite confident in the river and they always wear life jackets. He says if you capsize often enough in a canoe you know what’s coming next, he says the golden rule is don’t let go of the paddle. </td> </tr> <tr> <td> 1.29.50 - 1.38.27 </td> <td> Kieran asks Tom what are his hopes fro the river in the future. Tom says he hopes that they continue working on the water treatment plants on upstream towns. He says we are lucky in that there apart from Cork City there are really only two large conurbations on the Lee and those are Ballincollig and Macroom and if they would be up to high standards for sewage the river would be more or less pristine and the better the water quality the faster people will start using the river again. He mentions that there is now a canoe club on the Lee Road just at the back of UCC’s ERI building. He goes on to speak about the need to use the river and full, use of it while there is time. Kieran mentions that Tom wrote a book about the 1902/03 Cork Exhibition along with Dan Breen of the Cork Public Museum. Kieran asks if there was anything about how the river was used in relation to that. Tom says that when the Cork Exhibition in Fitzgerald’s Park was held in 1902 and 1903 it was a very interesting period worldwide for sport. For example he says that the GAA was twenty years old and was on an upward trajectory. Also the Great Exhibition in Cork had in terms of sport, hurling, football, lacrosse, tennis , hockey etc. He says the biggest crowd pulling events they held there was in relation to the water. Tom says that Kenneth Grahame’s the Wind In The Willows was published in 1907 and the background to that and the character of the water rat etc was a huge upsurge in interest in rowing and river based leisure activities in Edwardian times. He says it wasn’t just in Ireland but also Britain where they had the Henley Regatta, similar regattas on the Thames and the Cambridge boat race. He mentions the regatta on the Charles River in Boston and the Admirals Cup as all coming from that period. He says that the Cork Exhibition took place right on the river and you could rent a gondola a sailing boat, kayak or canoe or punt by the hour. People could paddle around Sundays Well between Pres and the Weir. This was the centre of a lot of people’s activities. He says a lot of film footage of people’s activities from this period revolves around water based activities. He says there were also two electric powered barges which were elegant timber boats with beautifully carved figureheads on the prow and these boats had DC motors and batteries. When they had important visitors they would bring them up and down the river on these barges. He says they had a rowing regatta at the Exhibition and they invited teams from across Europe and Ireland and Britain and eventually the final day came in July 1902 and it is estimated that between eighty and one hundred thousand people came to see this final. He says there were no sports ground in Ireland that would accommodate this event. This was bigger than an All Ireland Final, this was bigger than a rugby international. He says it was perhaps the biggest sporting single event seen in Ireland up to that point. There were crowds of people on the Tivoli side and on the Marina and the Tram companies got all the trams and lined them up to use as grandstands so people could pay to go up on them and see the race. He says they had a deep sea yacht race and a race with electric boats where they had electric launches racing each other up and down the Lee. He speaks of the famous water slide and mentions the photos of it. He says of this that they built a 250 foot wooden slide beside the site of the exhibition and the slide was in the river, they piled the river to put the legs of the slide into the river. He says you would climb up the top of the slide and then slid down the slide in a flat bottom punt which would hold about eight people, this would go 70 foot down the slide and would go About 50 miles an hour. He says this was faster than a steam train and the punt would skim along the water and bounce off it and land again. The boat was ran down wooden rails which were greased with fat to make it slide down faster. It was sixpence to go on it which made it the most expensive amusement. There were other amusements such as a rollercoaster but the waterslide was the big thing and if you could afford the sixpence you would spend it so it was a big money spinner for them. If you go to the park today he says some of the piles from 1902 are still visible in the river on low tide. These kind of rides were quite common he says up to the 1950s’, he says his father in law remembers going to Southend On Sea when he was living in London and they had one like it. He says it was a big excitement in 1902. Kieran asks Tom if there is any thing else he wants to cover and Tom says he has covered everything he thought he wanted to say. Kieran then thanks Tom and the interview ends. Interview ends 1.38.27 </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Tom Spalding: River Lee Subject The topic of the resource Life History; Immigration; Childhood; River Lee; Cork Exhibition Description An account of the resource Tom is the author of several books on design history relating to Cork City such as “Cork City: A Field Guide To Its Street Furniture and “Layers”. Tom speaks about how he was born in England and came to live in Cork aged seven when his father got a job in the Chemistry Department of UCC. About growing up in Rochestown Road in the late 1970’s and 1980’s. About the lack of facilities there, description of a tin shack shop ran by an elderly lady which is no longer there. Description of the River Lee and the Douglas Estuary. The disused Blackrock Railway line and the metal pedestrian bridge which at the time was semi derelict. About mullet that swam in the estuary and his fathers attempts to fish for them from the pedestrian bridge in the belief that they were sea bass. About early years in Cork growing up in a number of half finished housing estates in Bishopstown and Rochestown and his father using discarded building materials to build sheds etc. He speaks about his fathers work in Leeds and Sussex universities before they moved to Cork and he describes a period of his young childhood when his father got a job in Ahmadu Bello University which is located in Zaria in Northern Nigeria and the family moving there. Tom’s description of the mainly western enclave they lived in, of picking up some phrases of the local language Hausa and of a prank where himself and some other boys set fire to the bush. He speaks of the difficulties he had in learning Irish in primary school in Cork and how in later years he came to appreciate the language and adds his thoughts on how the language is thought and its future. Tom speaks about the relationship Cork City has with the river Lee. About the mainly working class anglers you would see fishing near the Shaky Bridge aka Daly’s Bridge. About canoeing and boating on the river. The history of river ferries on the River Lee and one that was still running up to the 1980’s bringing GAA fans across the river from the Ferryboat Inn on Lower Glanmire Road across to the Marina. On the proposed Cork City flood defence walls and his thoughts on it and alternative options and the Save Cork City movement. Of the negative relationship Cork City has with the River Lee and comparisons with that of other cities. He speaks of the Cork Main Drainage project and how it has improved water quality in the City. About how sewage and effluent from farming would flow into the river. Of the killer whales that entered Cork Harbour and swam up the River Lee in 2001. He speaks about the group Meitheal Mara who sail currachs on the river Lee. He talks about the O Flynn brothers who were the last of the traditional salmon fishermen in the Lee and how their boats could be seen on the quayside by the Trinity Bridge. He speaks of the Cork Exhibition of 1902/03 and water based attractions such as the giant waterslide which was located on the riverside by Fitzgerald’s Park. About the huge rowing regatta which attracted record crowds and the general growth in popularity of water based activity during the Edwardian era. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 1 September 2017 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewer: Kieran Murphy Interviewee: Tom Spalding Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00636_spalding_2017 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork; Ireland; Rochestown; England; Nigeria; 1970s - 2000s Relation A related resource Other Interviews with Tom Spalding: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/66" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00538_spalding_2015</a> Other Interviews in the collection: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/75" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00630_ohuigin_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/82" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00637_oduinnin_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/83" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00641_tanner_2017</a>. 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For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource The Ballyphehane Oral History Project Subject The topic of the resource Life history interviews with the inhabitants of the Cork City suburb of Ballyphehane about life in the area pre and post city corporation development. Description An account of the resource In June 2016 Contact was made by the<a href="https://19162016committee.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Ballyphehane 1916 Centenary Commemoration Committee</a> with the Cork Folklore Project to establish an oral history project to coincide with the events in Ballyphehane marking the centenary commemoration of the 1916 rising. The goal was to collect the memories of the residents and have a night in the community centre where these interviews would be played for the community. Ballyphehane is a suburb in the Southside of the city between Turners Cross and Togher. It was built between the 1940s and 1960s and inhabited by families rehoused from the city centre, much like Gurranabraher and Knocknaheeny in the north side. The significance of the 1916 rising to Ballyphehane is that the streets are named after the leaders of the rising. It was decided that CFP researcher and Ballyphehane resident, James Furey, would head up the project and assist volunteers in technical training and interview techniques: all interviews were carried out under the auspices of the the CFP. This interviewing project is ongoing, and there have been a number of community listening events in 2017 and 2018. Interviews have been carried out by CFP staff James Furey and David McCarthy, and by Ballyphehane resident Arnie O'Connell. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2016 and ongoing Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Hilary Lyons; Arthur Walker Snr; John Chute; Marie McAllen (with contribution from Liam Ohúigín); Elizabeth 'Lizzie' O'Sullivan; Tom Falvey; Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley Interviewers: James Furey; Arnie O'Connell; David McCarthy; Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Catalogue Numbers: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>: Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with inhabitants of Ballyphehane detailing their lives pre and post corporation development (ca. 1930s to 2018). Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 7.wav Files Relation A related resource Furey, Jamie (2018) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a> Listening Events Library Lane Café Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> and <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a> 15th June 2017 Tory Top Library Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview David McCarthy James Furey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Tom Falvey Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 78 m33s Location The location of the interview Pearse Road, Ballyphehane Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Interview Format This field should hold one of the following values; audio, video. Audio Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound The following is a short extract from the interview transcript, copyright of the Cork Folklore Project. If you wish to access further archival material please contact CFP, folklorearchive@gmail.com DMC: When you were young now, was there still development going on in Ballyphehane or had it mostly been built at that stage? Or can you remember? TF: There'd be, say down in Pouladuff Road now, them houses weren't there at all and the square below, there was dump down there. JF: Which square? TF: Pearse Square. That was a dump one time. We used call it the dumpa. So that'd be going back now nearly 50 years. But outside of that I mean, the main part of Pearse Road is probably there 75 years. These were the last houses to be built. Started down beyond the church, it goes down to Musgrave Park, even beyond it. JF: The first road was Kent Road I think they built. Kent Road and then they started bits of Connolly Road and bits of Pearse Road TF: That was actually built I think direct labour I think they used call it but that was the Corporation and their own plasterers. They don't build nothing now sure they don't? It's gone terrible now though isn't it? DMC: Were any of your relatives involved in the building of Ballyphehane? TF: No, I doubt it because the father used to work down the mill, the uncle was in Fords, the other uncle was in Texaco. There was Falvey's builders alright but they weren't related to us. Those builders were on the Northside, on Garynehane Road. JF: A colleague of ours does a project on Stonemasons and he's done a couple of interviews with a couple of Falveys TF: And was it good? But there's actually a programme on there. You'd see it. They were absolutely brilliant. JF: That was brilliant yeah. Jim Fahy made it. TF: A man down there now was on it. He's dead now. Dinny Murphy. They had their own language and all. JF: Yeah. The barlog. That's great. TF: But he used go to work now in a shirt and tie. He was a mason like. He had fierce pride. Pride. That's the way the old tradesmen were. JF: It's like the church below as well. It's all built by local tradesmen. TF: I think the Credit Union was about '59. JF: The first Credit Union in the country. TF: And they were brilliant actually weren't they? The Credit Unions JF: Can you remember the Credit Union being in the church? TF: No Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview <table> <tbody> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.00.31 - 0.07.12 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Early life. Born on Bandon Road. Roche’s Cross. Moving to Ballypheane. Death of mother. Move to Ballypheane. Aunts and fathers house. Greenmount School. Glasheen Secondary School. How he has bad memories of school in Glasheen, how you’d be terrified of school then. Playing with the Barrs. Walking up the Lee Fields. Bowling, playing football and how they would be out all the time. The Three Fields. The Well Field. Playing hurling when they got to age twelve or thirteen. Going out the road bowling. Going for a spin in the car with his uncle on a Sunday to Kinsale and Garrettstown. Going bowling up Pouldaduff Road by Celia’s Pub. The river by Celia’s Pub. How there was just one child ever collected in primary school. How there was just one car on their road. Mick Barry the bowler. Other greats of bowling Dennis Scully and Mick Sexton. How he disliked primary school but like secondary school. Going on to CIT and doing a marine related course. Studying morse code. Going on to work in Fords. Working there from 1979 to 1984. How they knew Fords would be closing in 84 in connection with the Common Market. How it was worse for married men being laid off. How Fords were great employers and would pay for employee’s children to go through college. Fords West Cork connections. How it was a big blow when it closed. The Lough. Tom starts off by saying he was born on Bandon Road, and then moved to Roche’s Cross. His mother died in 1964 and they moved to Ballypheane then. He says he was born in 1958. They moved here in he was about six. The house where the interview is taking place and where he lived was his aunt’s house. His father’s house was number 223. He went to Greenmount School and then Glasheen Secondary School. He says his memories of Greenmount School are bad memories. He says you’d be terrified of school then and that you’re a product of your times. He says he played hurling with the Barrs up to the age of nineteen. Himself and his friends would go up the Lee Fields walking. They would go out the road bowling and out walking and across the road playing football. He adds that this is basically all they did, there were no computers then so you would be out all the time. He says they would be out the Three Fields and the Well Field. They would be just running around the Three Fields when asked what games would they play. He says when they got to twelve or thirteen they would start playing hurling and football for the Barrs. They would go for a spin every Sunday with his uncle, there was a fellow they knew had a car. They would go for a spin to Kinsale and Garrettstown. They would go bowling up Pouladuff Road by Celia’s Pub. He says they would have played in the river by Celia’s pub as well in answer to a question from Jamie. He says that when he was in primary school there was only one child in the school ever collected by car. He says there was only one car on their road from the traffic lights closest to where the interview is taking place and the lights down by the Lough. He says he remembers Mick Barry the bowler playing. He says he died in the same home in Ballincollig where Bobby did. (Bobby Moore, his cousin Eleanor’s father). He says he was a great bowler, adding that he and his siblings when Mick Barry was bowling. He lists him off with the other great bowlers Dennis Scully and Mick Sexton. He says you were out all the time as you had no computer or no car. He returns to the subject of school saying he disliked primary school but like secondary school. He says you were a grownup when you go to secondary school by means of explaining this. He says he loved French and Latin. He went on to do a marine course in CIT. He says he studied morse code which you had to do if you were going to be working on ships. He says you would be fixing equipment too but he didn’t finish that part of the course. He says he then went on to work in Fords. He started in 1979 and finished in 1984. He adds he then went on to Western Digital and then Apple. Returning to the subject of Fords he says they always knew it would close in 84 and this had something to do with the Common Market. He mentions that Dunlops closed in 83 and they were the year after. He says he was so young he probably didn’t care but for married men it was worse. He adds that Fords would give them a great severance pay and would pay to put their children through college. He says they were great employers. He adds that Ford himself was West Cork, Ballinascarty. He says there 800 there at that time and they thought that was a huge amount though nowadays there would be thousands in Apple. When it closed it was a big blow he says especially for families. He says things were very bad that time for jobs. He says there was no one on the Road working. He goes into a general discussion about how Ballypheane picked up and the economy in general. He says the houses locally are there years. The Lough is there hundreds of years. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.07.14 - 0.09.26 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Ballypheane developments when he was young. How the houses down Pouladuff Road hadn’t yet been built when he was young. The dump on the site of Pearse Square. “The Dumpa”. How much of Ballypheane goes back seventy five years. How the houses on the road where he lives were among the last to be built. How Pearse Road stretches to Musgrave Park and beyond. Kent Road, Connolly Road. How the corporation built the houses by direct labour. His father in the mill, his uncle in Fords. The Falvey builders were are no relation. Michael Moores work for the Project on masons. Jim Fahey’s work on masons. Stone Mason Dinny Murphy who would go to work in a shirt and tie. How the old tradesmen were very proud of their work. The masons language barlog. The local church. Ballypheane Credit Union. When asked was there still development going on in Ballypheane when he was young Tom says the houses down Pouladuff Road weren’t there then. He says there was a dump where Pearse Square is now. He says they would call it the Dumpa. He says that would be going back about fifty years. Outside of that the main part of Ballypheane is seventy five years old. He says the houses where he is living were among the last to be built. He says the houses started way down beyond the church (Ballypheane Church). He says Pearse Road goes down to Musgrave Park and beyond it. James adds that Kent Road was the first to be built then parts of Connolly Road and Pearse Road were added. He says it was built by direct labour as it was called where the corporation would have their own plasterers etc. He says they don’t build anything now. He says he doesn’t think any of his relatives were involved in the building of Ballypheane. His father used to work down the mill and his uncle was in Fords and another uncle in Texaco. He says there were Falvey builders but they weren’t related. This leads into a discussion about Michael Moores work for the Cork Folklore Project interviewing masons. Jim Faheys work in this area is also discussed. Tom talks about a stone mason he knew who is now dead called Dinny Murphy. Tom says he would go to work in a shirt and tie. He adds that Dinny Murphy had fierce pride and that was the way with the old tradesmen. The mason’s language barlog is mentioned. James mentions that the local church was built by local tradesmen. Tom says the credit union ion Ballypheane was built around 1959. Tom doesn’t remember the credit union being in the church. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.09.28 - 0.13.42 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> How they would never venture further up Ballypheane beyond the traffic lights. How his grand uncle Tom Harris was at the first Barrs meeting. Book on the Barrs. His Harris grandmother. The old Harris House on the corner of the Lough. The Harris market gardens. Tom Harris’s horse. The old Garda Station by the Ardmanning. The big old house that was still there when Tom was in his twenties and is long gone. Tom says the Harris Market garden was still there when he was young. How there were other market gardens still in Friars Walk owned by the Scanlon’s, a relative of theirs Mick Carroll still lives on the corner up a bit from Tom. How they had a lot of property that was bought by compulsory order. Tom’s grandaunt Madgie Harris who lived on Pouladuff Road. How when you’re young you don’t take much notice of things. How he hated primary school. How you would be afraid of the priests. Walking to school in Greenmount. Jumping on the bus. Playing hurling on the street. Having a tennis ball in place of a sliothar. Going to school with a plastic bag for gear. Having one toothbrush at home and no toothpaste. When his older brother Jerry came back from England with deodorant and aftershave and Tom didn’t know what it was. He says they never went beyond the traffic lights further out Pearse Road. He says they wouldn’t have gone to Tory TopPark. He says they would stay between the traffic lights and they could name everyone in that area. He says they would go to the Lee Fields, or play with the Barrs or go for a spin on Sunday but they would never go further up to Ballypheane beyond the traffic lights. He says his grand uncle was at the first Barrs meeting which he thinks was around 1884. His name was Tom Harris and Tom says his name is in a book about the Barrs. Toms own grandmother was a Harris. He lived in the corner house which is still standing at the corner of the Lough and Pearse Road. Tom says they all had market gardens running back from the house. He says there’s still a bit of land there. Tom says up by the Ardmanning Bar there was a big old house which was the old Garda Station. He says it was a big old house that was still there when Tom was in his twenties but it’s gone now. Tom says the Harris Market garden was still there when he was young. He says a family called the Scanlon’s also had market gardens in Friars Walk, he says a relative of theirs, Mick Carroll still lives up on the corner from Tom. He says they had a lot of property which was all bought by compulsory order. Tom speaks of his grandaunt Madgie Harris who lived on Pouladuff Road. They had a bungalow but it’s long gone. He says those people from when he was a child are all long gone. He says when you’re young you don’t take much notice of things. Some people get older and you’d wonder are they making things up he says. He talks more on how he hated secondary school. He says you’d be afraid of the priests. You’d be afraid going to school he says. Secondary school was different. He says he’d walk out to Greenmount when he was going to school there. He says you’d walk everywhere. He says he’d walk there with his brothers or maybe a fellow he’d know from across the road. He says lads would be acting the fool and jumping on the bus, these were normal things he says. He says there was more freedom then. He says they would play hurley on the street. They would have a hurling stick but no sliothar, they would have a tennis ball instead. They had no helmet. Tom remembers going to school with a plastic bag, thee would have been no gear bags. He says at home they had one toothbrush and no toothpaste. He adds you’re a product of your environment. He talks about when his brother Jerry who spent years in England came home with deodorant and aftershave and Tom didn’t know what it was. Tom was about twelve at the time and Jerry was seven years older. He asks could young people today relate to that. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.13.52 - 0.17.30 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> When Tom went to Southampton in England to work. Coming back after ten months. Western Digital, Apple. Working in Odlum’s Mill for ten years. Cork Milling Company. Grants Mill. Fords, Dunlop’s and Gouldings. Why he played for the Barrs but not for Ballypheane. The Lough Parish. How they were all Barrs. “The Battle Of Ballypheane”. The row between the local soccer and GAA team in Tory Top Park. Father Fitzgerald. Fr Ormond who died in the Tuskar Rock plane crash in 1968. Theory that the plane was hit by a missile. How this was a very bad local tragedy and many from Ballypheane were on it. Other local tragedies and accidents. Tom speaks about when he went to Southampton in England to work. He only stayed there for ten months. He went over there after Fords. He said he wasn’t out of work for thirty years once he came back. He new a man called Tommy Welsh who worked in the mills over there so Tom went over to join him at that. Once he came back he worked in Western Digital and Apple. He worked in Odlums Mill for about ten years. He said it was dusty and he worked in the storeroom. It was a bit primitive. He says the front of it is preserved which was built in the 1930s and the main building was knocked. That was the National Flower Mill. Grants mill was the Cork Milling company. That was the big silo mill situated by where Goldberg’s pub is now. He says hundreds were employed there. Further down you had Fords, Dunlop’s and Gouldings. He says there’s nothing now, in terms of employment. The discussion moves to a brewery that is operating there now where Fords was (the Franciscan Well Brewery). Discussion moves back to his time playing hurling and Jamie notes he played with the Barrs but he didn’t play for Ballypheane. Tom says they were all Barrs. He says from the top traffic lights above them down to the Lough is all the Lough Parish but the reason he played with the Barrs was that his granduncle and uncle all played Barrs. James asks Tom if he heard of the Battle Of Ballypheane to which Tom says he heard something about it. Tom says he wasn’t there but he read about it. James goes into the story of how the soccer and GAA teams arrived at the pitch on Tory Top Park on the same day to play their finals. The soccer side put up their goalposts on the Connolly Road side and the GAA on Friars Walk end. Father Fitzgerald had to be called to sort things out to which Tom says in those days priests could sort things. If you saw the priest you’d nearly get a heart attack. Tom says he does not remember Fr Fitzgerald but he remembers Fr Ormond who died in the Tuskar rock disaster when the plane he was on crashed in 1968. He speaks about the theory that it was hit by a British missile. He says it was a big disaster for Ballypheane with many local dead and that the flight had been going to Lourdes. (Note: the parish priest of Ballypheane who was killed in Tuskar Rock was Fr Edward Hegarty) He speaks about other tragedies such as a girl who was involved with soccer who was killed. He speaks about a local girl June Atkins who was killed by a car. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.17.40 - 0.21.07 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Glasshouses in Hartland’s Avenue. Nursery and cricket club on Hartland’s Avenue. How you could walk through where the cricket club was on the way to Glasheen but it is private now. Tomatoes being grown in the glasshouses. Cortex. Musgrave’s. CMP Dairies. Hickeys. How people didn’t have the money then. The Credit Union in Ballypheane. Building society. How the Credit Union got people out of poverty. The contrast with Gurranabraher which didn’t have a credit union at the time. Credit Unions run by the banks now. Tom says he remembers glasshouses in Hartland’s Avenue but these are gone years. Tom says if you go past the Hawthorne Bar up to the top of the road on the right was all glass houses and a nursery. He says there was a cricket club there too. He says they were there up to thirty five years but in later years they were nearly all broken. There’s all houses there now he says. The cricket club was there too. It is private now. He doesn’t know what the cricket club was called but at one point you could walk through it on the way to Glasheen but it was blocked off then. He says the glasshouses were still being used when he was young, he says you could see tomatoes being grown. In terms of local industries Cortex and Musgrave’s are mentioned. CMP Dairies also which he says are long gone. Hickeys also. Tom says people didn’t have the money then. A discussion about debit cards follows. The Credit Union in Ballypheane is discussed. He says his father used to have money in a building society when they were young. The contrast with Gurranabraher is discussed and how it didn’t have a credit union at the time. Tom says the credit unions are run by the banks now. People in the past would be ducking and avoiding paying them but they can’t do that now. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.21.08 - 0.26.24 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Local character Elle Spillane. Charlie The Bogman. How he lived under a bridge and would be swimming in the water. How he used to swim naked. The murder of a girl in Black Ash. Going to see Bob Marley in concert in Dalymount Park Dublin in 1979. The Rolling Stones. Seeing the Pope in Limerick in 1979. How there was a traffic jam from Cork to Limerick and it took seven hours. The racetrack in Limerick. How the pope was waving. The upcoming papal visit. How the pope got a million visitors in 1979 but is just getting half a million now. How his father would and aunts would go to mass every morning. An uncle who would not go to mass. How religion used to give comfort. Memories of the moving statue of Ballinspittle. Going down to see it but not seeing it moving. How people came from all round to see it. How if you looked at it long enough it with the lights you would think it was moving. On being asked does he remember local Lough character Elle Spillane he says he heard of her but he doesn’t remember her. He speaks about a character called Charlie The Bogman who used to live under a bridge. Charley Coleman was his real name. He used to be swimming in the water by the bridge. He used to be naked going into the water. He had a house but lived under the bridge towards the Bell Field, it might have been the Snotty Bridge. Tom says he was harmless. He likens him to a new age traveller. He was around for a long time and lived to a good age. He says he had a beard and it was hard to put an age on him. He says you would be half afraid of him as a child. Tom talks about the case of a girl who was murdered out in Black Ash. He knew the girls father, he worked in Hickeys. He says that was the only murder he remembers locally. Tom talks about when he went to see Bob Marley in concert in Dalymount Park Dublin in 1979.He says he had a programme but gave it to someone. He went with his friend John Mahoney. He says it wasn’t too long before Bob Marley died. He mentions in passing that he also saw the Rolling Stones in concert. He said it was brilliant to see him. He said the atmosphere was brilliant. He says he used to have all his tapes in the car. It was the best concert he was ever at. He doesn’t recall anything Bob Marley said but he said he would have been half stoned anyway. He doesn’t remember who was supporting. He adds that Dalymount Park is gone too. He speaks of when he went to see the Pope when he visited Ireland in 1979. He travelled up to Limerick to see him. The journey took seven hours. He says there was a traffic jam the whole way from Cork To Limerick. It was in the racetrack in Limerick which is now gone. He says he passed and he thinks he waved at him. He talks about the upcoming visit of the current pope and compares it with how the last papal visit got a million visitors but just half a million are expected this time. He says that the pope has lost his appeal a bit. The older people loved him he says. His own father used to be going to mass every morning. He says Eleanor (Moore)’s mother would go to mass every morning. His other aunt Bridie would go every morning. He says one uncle wouldn’t go to mass, he jokes that he was a bit of a pagan. He says the religion use to give comfort. He talks about memories of the moving statue of Ballinspittle in the 1980’s. He says it was a big thing then. He went down there himself to have a look but didn’t see anything. He says if you looked at it long enough in the light it was supposed to move. He says people would be doing experiments. It died off then he says. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.26.26 - 0.29.46 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> The Fastnet Tragedy. The Buttevant train crash. When himself and some friends went to France. How they wouldn’t have known what sunscreen was. Staying in a tent. Visiting Paris and Nice. How France is very expensive. Visiting Tallin in Estonia. Starting working in Apple in 1990. Starting off in the line on quality. Making the boards on PCB. How that closed and was moved abroad. How most of the people he worked with there are now gone from there. How it was all Cork people working there at that time, how it is the opposite now. How they would send a taxi out to collect you for work. Tom mentions the Fastnet tragedy of 1979. He says he was down by Sherkin Island when that happened. He says everything happened in 79. He also talks about the Buttevant train crash. He says he was in France that year. He says himself and three of his friends went to France. He says you’d have no sunscreen that time, you wouldn’t know what it was. He says they went over in jeans and the sweat was pouring off them. They went camping in a tent and visited Paris and Nice. He says in more recent years he visited Tallin in Estonia, about fifteen years. He says he reckons people don’t have much there. Tom says he started working in Apple in 1990. He says they’re there since 1980. He started off on the line, he was on quality then. He was then making the boards on PCB but that closed. That was moved somewhere else. Most of his friends he worked with are gone from there and it’s a different kettle of fish up there now, it is now mostly call centre work. He says when he was there it was all Cork people. He says they would send out a cab to pick you up for going to work and you would make your own way home then. He says they wouldn’t do that now and they’re worth a trillion dollars. He says one of his friends is on the production line about ten years. A discussion on contracts and working conditions follows. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.29.52 - 0.35.10 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Tramore Road. How it was called Hang Dog Road. Stories about how it got that name. A tannery that used to be out there and how stray dogs were made into buoys. Musgrave’s getting the name of the road changed. His brother John involved in greyhounds. Hunting with the Southern Hunt Club when they were younger. Going out hunting towards Kinsale, Belgooly. How it’s dying out now as farmers don’t want people on their land due to insurance claims. How they would hardly ever manage to catch anything. How they would be hours trying to find the dogs. Drag Hunting by the airport. How it would end in Billy Halloran’s pub, now known as Bull McCabe’s. Halloran’s orchard. What Halloran’s pub was like back then. Dogs in the pub. Harrier dogs. Celia’s pub. The outdoor toilet. How the bowling started then. Celia and Jack Neville. How the pub was falling down and many pubs of the time were like then. The route they took for the bowling, starting by Neville’s. Lamdmarks along the way. The pink wall. The bridge. The pump. The Three Sticks. Tiger Aherne’s. Tiger Aherne the bowler. Finishing by Corcoran’s Bridge. How it was all uphill and all downhill. James asks Tom about Tramore Road and if they knew it under a different name. Tom says they did but he struggles to remember what it was called. Jamie suggests Hang Dog Road and Tom say’s this was what it was called. He asks why it was called that and James goes through a story of how there was a tannery and they would bring stray dogs out there to make buoys for fishermen so they would hang the dogs there. James’s says Musgrave’s got the name changed. Tom says his brother John is involved with greyhounds. His brother Dennis was involved with them as well. Tom goes on to say when they were younger himself and his siblings were involved with the Southern Hunt Club who were based on Bandon Road. He says they would go out hunting anywhere, Kinsale, Belgooly but its dying out now as farmers won’t allow access to their land. He says if a fellow broke his leg on their land he would make a claim. He says its not very fashionable now but anytime they went hunting they’d catch almost nothing, anything they’d find would be half dead from disease. They’d be hours trying to find the dogs then. It was good in the Winter he says. He says they would have drag hunting then up by the airport and it would finish Billy Hallorans pub which is now Bull McCabe’s. Billy Halloran owned Halloran’s Orchard and when he sold that he opened the pub. Tom knew Billy well and he had the pub for years. He adds its still there though now more like a restaurant. He says the pub was very old fashioned back then , there would be dogs in the pub. He says its different back then. People would keep harrier dogs in the home. People wouldn’t have a harrier in the house now. Tom speaks about Celia’s pub. He says it was falling apart. The toilet was on the outside he says. The bowling would start there. He mentions Celia Neville and Jack Neville who ran it. He says it was “falling down” but that’s how pubs were like then, rough and ready and dark. He speaks about the freezing cold of the outdoor toilet. He says you can still see the wall of the old pub down where it used to be. Tom talks about the route of the bowling. You’d start by Neville’s and he talks about landmarks along the way such as the pink wall which belonged to Barrett’s. The bridge. Maddens corner. The pump. Up Matthew Hill and the Three Sticks, up to Tiger Aherne’s, Tom adds he was a bowler. They would finish by Corcoran’s Bridge, it was all uphill and all downhill. He talks about the traffic nopw and how there are hundreds of houses up Pouladuff and there were harldly any cars back then. He says people haven’t time for things like bowling as time is at a premium. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.35.22 - 0.41.25 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Playing Rings and darts. Ma Dullea’s pub. How these pastimes are not as popular these days. Playing cards. The decline in the number of card playing teams. How in the past you could drive after a few pints. Discussion of recent road crash in Donegal. Man who he knew who lived in Donegal and who described it as a kip. Socialising in Barrack St when younger. De Lacey House on Oliver Plunket St. The Gilt Edge pub on Washington St. The Grand Parade Hotel. How then you would walk everywhere and people didn’t do cabs. Fordes pub. Bradley’s pub. Current pubs on Barrack St. Comparisons with Barrack St and Shandon St. Eugenes pub on Shandon St which was owned by Theo Cahill of the Dixies. Anthony “the Bishop” Coughlan. The Chimes bar. More discussion of Cork pubs. How he likes to support the small pubs and shops. Pat Buckley’s bar by the North Infirmary. Dennehy’s pub on the Coal Quay. The Harp bar. Tom says he plays rings and darts, his local team would be in Ma Dullea’s pub. He would be playing all over the Southside but this has also declined in popularity. He says playing cards has gone the same way. There were once sixty four cards teams but there’s only eighteen now. He says before you could just drive away in the morning after a few pints but you can’t now. There follows a discussion about a recent fatal crash in Donegal. Tom says they are mad for rallying up there. He says he knew he knew a man who lived in Donegal and who said it was a kip. Tom says when he was younger he would socialise mainly on Barrack St. He says he would also go to De Lacey House on Oliver Plunket St which was great for ballads. He also mentions the Gilt Edge pub which is now Preachers. The Grand Parade Hotel. He says you walked everywhere and that time people didn’t really do cabs. Everyone gets cabs now and he quips people have got lazy. He says he never goes into town by night now socialising. Tom says he goes these days to Fordes pub on the bottom of Barrack St. There follows a discussion about Bradleys pub on Barrack St and a barmaid called Lavinia and a discussion on who owns it. A discussion on Barrack St and its pubs follows such as the Pigalle, Tom Barry’s, the Brown Derby and Barbarella’s. Comparisons are made with Shandon St and improvements made to Barrack St. He says Shandon St has gone “cat”. A discussion on Shandon St follows and the Old Reliable and Eugene’s which Tom says was owned by Theo Cahill of the Dixies. A further discussion on Eugenes follows in which Tom speaks of a regular Anthony Coughlan known as “the Bishop”. Tom says the Chimes pub is now gone which was Dinny Donovans place. The Shandon Arms is discussed. The Wolfe Tone is mentioned as closed. Tom says the Gerard Griffin pub is open again. The Tower pub is mentioned as closed. Tom says he likes to support small pubs like small shops, you would like to see them kept open. Tom expresses surprise when James says that Pat Buckley’s pub by the North Infirmary has closed recently. Tom asks is Dennehy’s on the Coal Quay still open to which James says it is. Tom speaks more of Forde’s pub. He speaks about the Harp bar near where he lives. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.41.28 - 0.48.05 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> How their aunts Kitty and Bridey would do the shopping when he was young. A small shop down Pouladuff Road. Hegarty’s Shop. How there were no supermarkets then. Corner shops that would have a book marking what you owed and you pay at the end of the month. The gasman calling around. The gas meter. Going off on a holiday once a year with the aunts. Staying in a caravan in Garretstown. One of the Harris’s whose job it was to light the public gas lamps. Toms father who used to drive the horse and cart for the Harris’s to the Coal Quay. Memories of seeing horses and carts around. A man who kept pigs and who would come around on a horse and cart collecting slops. Murphy’s bacon factory. Lunham’s bacon factory on Tramore Road. Bonfire Night. It being held just across from where they lived. How when they were young they would be singing around the fire. How in later years it got messier. Weeks of preparation collecting material, tyres and wooden pallets etc. How it was the highlight of the year along with Halloween. Young and old alike participating. Playing the squeezebox. How you could leave your door open that time with the key in the door. How people could walk in and ask if they had sugar or some milk. Leaving the key in the door up to twenty years ago. How if a neighbour wanted a hand with something you would help them out. Community spirit in Ballypheane. Tom says he knew nothing about shopping growing up as their aunts Kitty and Bridey would do all the shopping as they reared them. He mentions a small shop down Pouladuff Road, Hegartys Shop that is long gone. He says there were no supermarkets then, there were small corner shops and he says they were robbing people. They would have a book in the shop marking down what you owed and you pay at the end of the month. The gasman would come then and he might give something back, he adds there was a meter for the gas and points where it was in his house though it is now blocked off. He says they would go off once a year for a holiday with the aunts and they would be bored and wanting to come back after a day. They would go to Garretstown or somewhere like that staying in a caravan. Their uncle or someone that they knew would drop them down. Tom mentions a relative, one of the Harris’s who worked in the gasworks and whose job it was to light the public gas lamps. This was going back many years he says. He says his father told him he used to drive a horse and cart for the Harris’s down to the Coal Quay. Tom says he remembers horses and carts around himself. He remembers a man who kept pigs and who used to come around in a horse and cart and collect slops. Tom speaks about Murphy’s bacon factory and Lunham’s which was up Tramore Road. He says a lot of the big supermarkets got rid of a lot of these places. Tom speaks about Bonfire Night. He says there would be across from where they grew up. He say when they were young they would be singing around the bonfire but in later years it got very messy. He says you would be involved in collecting the material, timber pallets and tyres but mostly timber. He says it be prepared weeks in advance. He says the corporation would sometimes take away the pile of material. He says it was one of the highlights of the year along with Halloween. He says young and old would be out and people would be playing the squeezebox and the banjo. He says you could leave your door open that time. People could walk in and ask if they had some sugar or a drop of milk. He says that’s how it was then. He says they would leave the key in their front door up to twenty years ago. If people wanted a hand with something you would give them a hand. A general discussion of community and Ballypheane follows. He speaks about community spirit in Ballypheane. He talks about community spirit in rural places such as Skibbereen which he would visit. He speaks about how neighbours helped out when he had to look after his uncle. He mentions how he has the key for his neighbours for helping out. He speaks about a woman whose neighbour helps out with giving her eye drops. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.48.09 - 0.51.55 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Playing in the Lough Leagues. Danny Coughlan. Playing with the Barrs through Greenmount School. Cork players Gerald Mack and Peter Doolan how they started off with the Barrs. How the Barrs would come to the school to ask them to play with the team. When the Barrs were based on Bandon Road and then moved to Togher. When you had to pay to go to Barrs matches. How to an older generation they would be a Bandon Road team. The Ballypheane team considered junior. Gerald Mack. The pressures of running a team. Having to turn up Saturday. How he used to run a team but wouldn’t do it again. How he has great time for the GAA. How people who criticise it are those who wouldn’t give the time for it. How people in Ballypheane didn’t have much to do with soccer or rugby. He mentions Sundays Well and Dolphins rugby teams. He says of Dolphins that not many people in Ballypheane had anything g to do with them and they all came from other pats of the city. He says the only local of note to play with them was Phil O Callaghan. Tom says he played in the Lough Leagues hurling. He says that was with Danny Coughlan. He says the Lough Leagues have been brought back recently. He says Greenmount School was also the Barrs. He says famous Cork players Gerald Mack and Peter Doolan started off with the Barrs from when the Barrs would call out to the school. He says in later years he was involved in street leagues for about eight years with Out The Barrs. He says the Barrs were originally based on Bandon Road and then moved out to Togher. He says they never really interacted with the local community in Togher but they had to go somewhere. He says out the Barrs you had to pay to get into matches when he was young. He says nowadays they are seen as a Togher team but to the older generation they would be Bandon Road. He says they had a pitch in Togher years ago but they were considered Bandon Road. He says the Ballypheane team were only considered junior. He says Ballypheane had some good players like Gerald Mack whose father played with the Lough. You can’t get people to run a team now he says, he did it for a while but he wouldn’t do it again. He says you have to turn up Saturday and Sunday mornings. He says then a mother might be an hour late and you’d have to wait around minding their child, he jokes that it was like a babysitting service. He thinks the GAA are a brilliant organisation. He says they had nothing to do with Casement soccer team, it was all GAA. He says it was the same with rugby. He says of Dolphins Rugby Team that not many people in Ballypheane had anything to do with them and they all came from other pats of the city. He says the only local of note to play with them was Phil O Callaghan who played with Ireland and the Lions. He says rugby was a different kind of middle class game. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 052.00 - 0.57.45 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Stories told heard about the War Of Independence period. Connie Neenan whom Neenan Park is named after. A story heard about a girl who was shot dead on Washington St. Storys read about atrocities. How parts of Cork City were very republician. Story about how Connie Neenan was supposed to have stolen a load of money. Family links with the sculptor Edward Ambrose. How he was sent to Rome by the people of the Lough Parish. Tom’s brother going in to see his work in the Crawford. The Crawford Schools new premises on Grand Parade. How this used to be a gentlemen’s club. Work social clubs. Dunlop’s club. How Fords didn’t have a club. Odlum’s Mill club. Apple club. Joe Murphy Road. Joe Murphy who died on hunger strike. A story heard that his aunts friend Peggy Murphy’s father was the man the British had been looking for. Joe Murphy’s nephews the Delaney’s. How the council were prevented from knocking the Joe Murphy house. Tom says you would hear the odd thing about the War Of Independence period. He says when they were out the Barrs Neenan Park they would play Neenan Park which was named after Connie Neenan. They would hear a story about a girl on Washington St and a bullet hit the ground and killed her. He says you’d hear that and wouldn’t know if it was true or not. He said you might read books and read about how Connie Neenan was supposed to have shot young lads. He says parts of Cork City were very republician. He says people say about Connie Noonan that he stole a load of money. Connie Neenan is long dead he says. Tom speaks of the famous sculptor Edward Ambrose who was a relative of his grandmother. He went to Rome and was sent there by the people of the Lough Parish. Tom says he lived past the lights on Pearse Road. Tom say his elder brother went down to the Crawford to see his work and said shure he’s dead years. Tom did some research on him and he has some work in the Crawford School. Talk then turns to the Crawfords new premises on Grand Parade which used to be a gentlemen’s club. He says CIT bought that. Talk moves to social clubs in the places he worked in. Dunlop’s had a social club and Fords had none. The mill had a sort of a club. He says Apple had a brilliant social club and he says he had brilliant nights out with them. He says they’re planning on having a 30th anniversary reunion for the Apple staff. He says Apple was the only job he was in where you could sit down and work, every other club you were standing. He says he was never at the Grocers Club which James says is one of the last clubs of its type in town and across from the Ivory Tower. James asks if Tom has any stories about Joe Murphy whom Joe Murphy Road is named after. Tom says Joe Murphy lived down Pouladuff Road and he was the Granduncle of one of Tom’s friends. Joe Murphy died on hungerstrike during the War Of Independence. Tom says one of his aunts friends Peggy Murphy it was supposed to be her father they were looking for but he’s not sure if this is true or not. A discussion of Joe Murphy’s hungerstrike in Cork Prison follows. He says he knows Joe Murphy’s nephews the Delaney’s who lived in his old house and it has a plaque on the wall. He says that the council were trying to knock Joe Murphy’s house one time but they were stopped from knocking them. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.57.48 - 1.02.00 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> The significance of place names in Ballypheane named after Republican martyrs. Wondering why they were named after them and not out in Bishopstown or Douglas. Being proud of the street being named after Padraig Pearse. Willy Pearse, Padraig Pearses brother and how he was also executed. The school the Pearse brothers ran. How some people locally are named Pearse after Padraig Pearse. People ringing about broadband and spelling it incorrectly. The 1966 50’th anniversary commemorations of 1916. The attempt to blow up De Valera at the Republican Plot at St Finbarr’s Cemetery. Jerry Madden who survived the explosion and lost an eye and a leg. How the bomb went off too soon killing one of the plotters. Tom Barry. How he would see Tom Barry Around town drinking. How Tom Barry’s sister used to be in the Red Cross with Tom’s sister Helen. How Tom Barry was private and would not talk about the Flying Column days. How he would see him and people would say that’s Tom Barry. About the terrain down in West Cork and its suitability for fighting an enemy. James asks did it mean anything to him growing up with all the place names after republican martyrs such as Pearse Road, Kent Road etc. Tom says he used to wonder why they were named after them and not out in Bishopstown or Douglas. He says they were proud of being named after Pearse. He talks about the Plaque to Pearse down the road and mentions that Pearse brother Willy was executed as well. A discussion about the Pearse brothers and the school they ran follows. Her talks about the way some people in the area are called Pearse after Padraig Pearse and spell it the same way.. He says people would ring about broadband or whatever and would be spelling it Pierce. Tom speaks of memories of the 1966 50’th anniversary of the 1916 Rising. James asks him about the bomb plot to blow up De Valera at the Republican Plot. Tom says he knew one of those involved who survived, another plotter was killed he says. Tom explains that De Valera was coming down. He doesn’t know whether the plotters were trying to kill De Valera or not. James goes on to say that De Valera was set to be there at three O Clock and they set the bomb for the wrong three O Clock and the bomb went off prematurely. He speaks of Jerry Madden who came from a Republican family and who lost an eye and a leg who died up to a few years ago. He speaks about how you would see Tom Barry, the Old IRA commander around. He sassy if Tom Barry around you wouldn’t say anything to him. Tom says he would see him around town drinking. He says Tom Barry’s wife used to be in the Red Cross with Helen, Toms sister. He says he doesn’t think Tom Barry wouldn’t discuss anything about the War Of Independence or anything like that, he thinks he would be private. Tom never spoke to him himself but he remembers seeing him around and fellows saying that’s Tom Barry. He says he works for the Vincent De Paul and he goes down to West Cork a lot and he says you can see how its great terrain for mounting an ambush. A discussion follows where James says he’s from East Cork, Youghal. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 1.02.05 - 1.13.40 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Wren Boys on St Stephens Day. His cousins the Colemans in Halfway. Martin Coleman Cork hurler. The Coleman’s petrol station and post office in Halfway. How rural areas are in decline. The Wren Boys outfits, how they hardly ever came around in the city. Trick Or Treating on Halloween. How they never went beyond the traffic lights when they were young. The dump. “The Dumpa”. How they used to play in this. How recycling has taken over. The old city dump. How travellers used to be there collecting stuff. The travellers in Black Ash. Old barrel top caravans. A place in Blarney that would hire them out to tourists. A traveller man who would come and fix his grandmothers pots. How industrial farming and the Traveller Act brought in by Charley Haughey. Toms Grandfather Jerimiah Falvey who worked down the docks and died in 1946. Tom’s uncle Derry. How Toms family lived for a while on Grand Parade and his older brother was born there. How two uncles and two aunts lived locally. His aunt Kitty Falvey getting married. How people would stick to their own place then. Tom going up the Northside to play hurling against the under age Na Piarsaigh. He also mentions Brian Dillon’s up the Tank Field. Playing against the Glen. How there was a big rivalry between the Barr’s and Blackrock and the Glen. How one they would be all fighting and it’s more refined now. How you need rivalry in sport. Cork versus Kilkenny 1972 his first All Ireland. Cork winning the football in 73. Pairc Ui Caoimh. The old Athletics Ground. Croagh Pairc. Thoughts on the upcoming Liam Miller testimonial match. The GAA ban on foreign sports. Story from James about how he played both rugby and GAA and the GAA changed the days of the training. Tom on how the Barr’s would have an awkward relationship with the soccer club Greenwood. Christy Cooney GAA president. Declan Dalton. Joe Deane. Tom says there would have been Wren Boys around on St Stephens Day. He says he never did it himself but they would have called locally. He speaks of cousins in Halfway who were very into it. Tom’s family would visit them and they would come up once a year. He mentions Martin Coleman who played in goal for Cork hurling. His mother and his mother were sisters. They were very big into the Wren Boys in the country now. He says they would call once a year. They had a petrol station and a post office down there but there’s nothing there now he says. He speaks about how rural areas are being devastated. He says the Wren Boys would be wearing all kinds of things on their head and you’d be half afraid of them. He says they hardly ever came around in the city just a few young lads messing. He says they would trick or treat on Halloween. He says they wouldn’t have a bonfire locally on Halloween but some other places would. He says as young lads they wouldn’t be fighting with youths from other areas, he jokes they weren’t worth it. He says they never strayed beyond the traffic lights. He says they would be called in around nine O clock when they were around fifteen. He talks about The dump or “The Dumpa” as it was known locally. He says it would be all rats but nothing like the dumps now. He remembers the old city dump. He says now it’s all recycling. He says then there would be all beds and clothes thrown around and the travellers would be there loading their vans with stuff. He speaks of the travellers who would camp in Black Ash. He says he found them all right, they would be doing their own thing. He never went down to have a ride of the horses as he’d be afraid of a horse. He supposes some fellas would. He says there would be caravans parked down there. He recalls seeing the old barrel top caravans. He says there was a place in Blarney that would hire out these and they were very popular with tourists at one point but he supposes they wouldn’t be able to travel on the roads these days. He remembers a traveller coming around fixing his grandmothers pots and his grandmother would give him some money. A discussion follows on how they draw social welfare these days and how industrial farming has affected their lifestyle and also the Traveller Act brought in by Charley Haughey. He say when he was young they were fine. He says his grandmother is dead since 1966 so it was before that. He says his Grandfather Jerimiah died in 1946 when he was 63 and he worked down the docks. He had a bad heart. He had a son called Derry, Tom’s uncle. Tom says they lived in Pouladuff at first before moving to Ballypheane. Tom can’t remember any of his own time living in Bandon Road when he was young. He says his family lived prior to that on the Grand Parade where his older brother Jerry was born. He says his father lived in another house when they got that house when Tom’s mother died, the house he lives in now was his aunts house. He says his family lived at 220 and 223. He says there were two uncles and two aunts living locally then one Aunt Kitty got married, she is the mother of his cousin Eleanor Moore. He says then you kept to your own place. Tom says that he himself would go up the Northside playing hurling against Na Piarsaigh underage and Brian Dillon’s up the Tank Field. He says other than that some people wouldn’t go outside their own road. He says he didn’t care about the fact that he was going up the Northside. It was like an outing going to play. They would be going playing against Na Piarsaigh, Mayfield, Brian Dillon’s plus the Glen and Blackrock and also Douglas. He says there was big rivalry between the Barr’s and the Glen and Blackrock. In the past they would be fighting and “having murder” but it’s more refined now. He says you have to have rivalry and it can’t be a gentleman’s game. Tom says the first ALL-Ireland was in 1972 which was Cork and Kilkenny in hurling. He says Kilkenny won that. He says he went to see Cork win the football the following year. He went to loads of All Irelands after. He has been to the new Croagh Pairc as well as Pairc Ui Caoimh. He speaks about the old Athletic Park that was there before Pairc Ui Caoimh. He speaks about the newly built Pairc Ui Caoimh and compares it with Croaic Pairc. He speaks about the upcoming Liam Miller testimonial match which he thinks will be brilliant. He speaks about the foreign rules ban and about how they allowed Michael Jackson and American football. He says that when you see in a village the GAA pitch and the soccer pitch is better then you know they’re not cooperating. James tells a story of how he used to play rubgy and also GAA and that when the GAA found out they changed the day of training to coincide with it so he had to make a choice and choose rugby. Tom says the Barr’s would be like that with the soccer club Greenwood. He says Greenwood would be trying to help with the Barr’s would be awkward. He says the Barr’s haven’t won anything in years. James says since Christy Cooney took over as GAA president the money has been flying into the clubs. A discussion about Youghal follows and players such as Declan Dalton and Joe Deane are discussed. Tom says Joe Deane is a small man but tough. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 1.13.50 - 1.18.33 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> More on Ballypheane. Pat Allen “Pat The Picket”. How he was a great character and was well loved by all. How he would dress up in outfits including as Santa. How he died of cancer. How he would have placards for every occasion. Another character called Donny Sutton from Tory Top Road. How Pat The Picket would be wearing a black bin. How he started protesting when he was young. Pat The Picket. Going to the Republican Plot in St Finbarr’s. A man who is involved in the volunteer pipe band. How in days gone by the priest or doctor would have done house calls but that’s no more. James asks Tom about legendary stories about Ballypheane. Tom says that they never had much to do with Ballypheane. He does speak about the well known character. Pat Allen who was better known as Pat The Picket. He says he knew him well. He was a great character and people used to love him. If you had a grievance he was the man to go to. He would dress as Santa and all kinds of outfits. He says he was great for the community. Tom says he died of cancer and wouldn’t have been much older than himself. He thinks he had a brother who died as well. He would have a placard for every occasion. He speaks about another character called Donny Sutton from Tory Top Road. James talks about him that he’d be wearing all kinds of outfits like Sergeant Pepper and A Roman Centurion. Tom goes on to say that Pat The Pickett would be sometimes dressed in a black bin. Tom say Pat was always doing the picketing and protesting since his teens. Tom says he would be brought to court and the judge would say to fine him a pound. He would always be out the Republican Plot. He says they would never go to St Josephs Cemetery, always the Republican Plot in St Finbarrs and they would hear the marching band coming and they would go out with them, people would bring their children. He says not people go out now. He speaks about a man who is the volunteer pipe band, his name is Donie, he doesn’t know his surname. He says there wouldn’t have been stations in the house, that would have been a country thing. He says in days gone by the priest or doctor would have called out to the grandmother but that sort of thing is gone by the board now, he says there’s no house call’s now. The interview is brought to an end and Tom jokes that we’ll have to come back in ten years. 1.18.33.5 end of interview. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.00.00 - 0.00.00 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Tom Falvey: Ballyphehane, Market Gardens Subject The topic of the resource Life History: Ballyphehane, Market Gardens, Childhood, Travellers, Sports Description An account of the resource Tom speaks about how he was born on Bandon Road. On moving to and growing up on Killeenreendowney Avenue and then Pearse Road in Ballyphehane. The primary school in Glasheen. Activities such as walking the Lee Fields. Playing hurling with the Barrs. On road bowling and famous bowlers such as Mick Barry, Dennis Scully and Mick Sexton. Bowling routes such as Pouladuff Road. Celia’s pub. Memories of hunting and drag hunting. On working in Fords and memories of its closure in 1984. Memories of working in Apple in the 1990s. Odlum’s Mill. On doing a marine-related course and studying Morse Code. Landmarks locally such as the Three Fields and the Well Field. “The Dumpa”. The Black Ash. The Lough. Old cricket grounds near the Lough. The significance of roads in Ballypheane named after Republican martyrs. Padraig Pearse. Hunger Stricker Joe Murphy. Stories heard of the War Of Independence. Old IRA member Connie Neenan. Memories of Tom Barry. The Republican Plot explosion. Plot to blow up De Valera. Hurling, soccer and rugby teams in Ballypheane and the Southside. Underage hurling. The GAA. Local characters Charlie The Bogman, Pat The Picket and Donny Sutton. Pubs in Cork. The Credit Unions. The culture shock of his brother coming back from England with aftershave and deodorant. Market gardens in Ballypheane. The Harris family and their involvement in market gardens. The sculptor Edward Ambrose. Going to see the Pope in 1979. The moving statue of Ballinspittle. Seeing Bob Marley in concert. Togher. Stonemasons. Travellers. Travelling tinsmiths. Barrel top caravans. Memories of the Tuskar Rock air tragedy. The Fastnet disaster. The Buttevant Train crash. “The Battle Of Ballypheane”. Hang Dog Road in Ballypheane and how it got its name. Playing darts and rings. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 5 September 2018 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Tom Falvey Interviewer: James Furey Interviewer: David McCarthy Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork; Ireland; Ballyphehane; Pearse Road; 1950s - 2000s Relation A related resource <div class="element-text"><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:</div> <div class="element-text"> Furey, Jamie (2012) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a></div> Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource .wav Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound Ballyphehane Ballyphehane Oral History Project Ballyphehane Pipe Band Battle of Ballyphehane Bob Marley Buttevant Train Crash Credit Union Eamon de Valera Fastnet Disaster GAA Hurling Papal Visit 1979 Road Bowling Sport St. Finbarr's Cemetery St. Finbarr's GAA Stonemasons The Lough Tom Barry Travellers Tuskar Rock Air Tragedy War of Independence https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/d1d6e044e2dd38611cbb97fe9d2ead12.JPG a147adbeeb98a29047bb067047e6e500 https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/4d0d323eb205e9494a382f7d7513b351.mp3 b2df6246548bc9c07c2a81c6e4eab1fd Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource The Ballyphehane Oral History Project Subject The topic of the resource Life history interviews with the inhabitants of the Cork City suburb of Ballyphehane about life in the area pre and post city corporation development. Description An account of the resource In June 2016 Contact was made by the<a href="https://19162016committee.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Ballyphehane 1916 Centenary Commemoration Committee</a> with the Cork Folklore Project to establish an oral history project to coincide with the events in Ballyphehane marking the centenary commemoration of the 1916 rising. The goal was to collect the memories of the residents and have a night in the community centre where these interviews would be played for the community. Ballyphehane is a suburb in the Southside of the city between Turners Cross and Togher. It was built between the 1940s and 1960s and inhabited by families rehoused from the city centre, much like Gurranabraher and Knocknaheeny in the north side. The significance of the 1916 rising to Ballyphehane is that the streets are named after the leaders of the rising. It was decided that CFP researcher and Ballyphehane resident, James Furey, would head up the project and assist volunteers in technical training and interview techniques: all interviews were carried out under the auspices of the the CFP. This interviewing project is ongoing, and there have been a number of community listening events in 2017 and 2018. Interviews have been carried out by CFP staff James Furey and David McCarthy, and by Ballyphehane resident Arnie O'Connell. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2016 and ongoing Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Hilary Lyons; Arthur Walker Snr; John Chute; Marie McAllen (with contribution from Liam Ohúigín); Elizabeth 'Lizzie' O'Sullivan; Tom Falvey; Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley Interviewers: James Furey; Arnie O'Connell; David McCarthy; Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Catalogue Numbers: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>: Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with inhabitants of Ballyphehane detailing their lives pre and post corporation development (ca. 1930s to 2018). Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 7.wav Files Relation A related resource Furey, Jamie (2018) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a> Listening Events Library Lane Café Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> and <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a> 15th June 2017 Tory Top Library Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview James Furey Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Elizabeth O'Sullivan Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 1 HR 23 Mins 11 Sec Location The location of the interview Ballyphehane Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Interview Format This field should hold one of the following values; audio, video. Audio Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound The following is a short extract from the interview transcript, copyright of the Cork Folklore Project. If you wish to access further archival material please contact CFP, folklorearchive@gmail.com JF: Obviously you'd been out to Ballyphehane to visit Jimmy's family and that. But had you been out to Ballyphehane when you were a child? EOS: No. There wouldn't be much of Ballyphehane built at that time now. The little houses below, in O’Growney Crescent, they were there. Now, I don't know whether they were all there or not. But there was some of them there. Parts of Pearse Road was there. There was a part of Connolly Road, because do you know up by the cross now when you go up before you come to the park? That was only all earth from that down. And I remember when I thought I was glamorous then you see. You'd have the high heels and you'd have the bit of glamour as you'd think you would. And I was saying I'm not walking down there. I'd destroy my shoes. And he gave me a backer up on his back. This is true now. He could be listening to me. The Lord have mercy on him. And he gave me a backer down before I destroyed my shoes. It was terrible. JF: Was this up in Friar's Walk was it? EOS: Up there now by the park there. So that wasn't finished. JF: So was there still orchards and market gardens and stuff around? EOS: I don't remember them now but there is, there was a family up there now, they're gone, the Varians. They were only up a couple of doors there. And they came from the market gardens. They were telling me one day. There's a very nice chap. They were living in the market gardens and they just moved. And then they were building just after that. They were building up by Sonny Fords, the shop. I can remember now there was a woman across the road and she died. And they asked me to go up and call Georgie. He was working on the flats for the Corporation. Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview <table> <tbody> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.00.35 - 0.02.25 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> House of Birth. She was born in 88 Wolfe Tone Street, maiden name Cambridge. Her father was Denis and her mother was Margaret O’Connor. She speaks of her family being twelve in total, six boys and six girls. She talks about growing up in Wolfe Tone Street. She lived in a tenement of about five or six floors with the ground floor occupied by the ‘caretaker’, a couple. Each floor cleaned their own and she remarks that she had a very good life even in the tenement. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.02.26 - 0.04.26 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Schooling. She went to St. Vincent’s Convent School, and remained there until second class. She recounts an event in school when a lay teacher made a public display of her for failing to answer a question in class and that sense of humiliation experienced never left her memory. After that event she switched to North Presentation school, she was around 8 years old at the time, and finished her schooling there. She left the North Pres before she was fourteen and went to work. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.04.26- 0.07.27 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> First Job in Shoe Factory. She talks of her one and only job in Cork she had that of a Shoe Factory on Hanover Street where the present Labour Exchange is situated, owned by Dwyers. She found working there to be ‘okay’. She makes a general observation that in her life she never met ‘horrible people’, yet brings up that incident with the teacher again. She stayed in Dwyer’s until she was twenty one or two until after meeting her husband when they decided to go to England. Her mother was angry at her for giving up a ‘good job’ with pay at three pounds seven and six pence a week. She found the Dwyer’s to be good people to work for. They also had Lee Boot on Washington Street where Square Deal is now. There was no doctor on site as at the Sunbeam but there was a doctor on the South Mall that you could visit. She remembers the doctors rooms opposite the Victoria Hotel. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.07.28 - 0.11.56 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Time in England and marriage. She speaks of her time in England. She got married there. She worked in factory jobs, one of which did remote controls on the floor where she worked. She went to Birmingham first and then up to London. She got married in 1952. Never experienced anti-Irish prejudice while there. Her husband’s name was James but they called him ‘Jimmy’. He was a crane driver when she was over there with him. He was working in the railway as a fireman when he went to England first, before Elizabeth met him. She met him in Cork after he returned briefly. Only stayed in England for a few years and decided to come back after Elizabeth became pregnant. They almost went to Australia after a scheme came out trying to entice people to live there. The scheme assisted you in the fare out there, ten pounds. They had all the forms signed to go out after getting each round of papers signed by a priest or a Guard, which cost one shilling. Just at the final stage of going when she became pregnant and she had morning sickness and that ended that endeavour. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.11.57 - 0.14.07 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Return to Cork and finding her home. She talks of returning to Cork to live with Jimmy’s parents at 53 Kent Road, Ballyphehane. She says then that she lived first with Jimmy’s grandmother in an old run down cottage house in a laneway off where the Bridewell Garda Station is. There was about eight houses there but she felt a bit frightened there by its darkness and isolation. They were condemned and people living there expected to get Corporation Houses soon. But Jimmy’s parents knew a man on Pearce Road who had a good job in the Corporation and he put a good word for them and they got the house at 60 Kent Road after it became vacant. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.14.08 - 0.16.24 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Ballyphehane before and during development. She talks of Ballyphehane before it was built up fully. She wouldn’t have visited Ballyphehane when she was younger. Only the little houses in O’Growney Crescent were there, maybe not all of them, when she was growing up. Part of Pearce Road and part of Connolly Road was also there. The place along Connolly Road at the crossroads by the Park was all earth the way down. She doesn’t remember any market gardens around here but recalls a family a few doors up, the Varians, who came from the market gardens. She remembers construction up by Sonny Fords, the shop, and she was asked to call Georgie who was working on the flats for the Corporation after a woman across the way had died. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.16.27 - 0.19.44 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Ballyphehane Church and Credit Union. They were there before the Church. They started the Church when Elizabeth came to Ballyphehane. She remembers a man who used to visit each house with his book collecting subscriptions for the Church, a shilling a week. The man who did the collection was a mason, the Hurley’s and he went to America afterwards and is still there. She talks of the Credit Union but you had to pay half a crown to join and you would get a little pink book. At that time it was over at the sacristy at the Church and you joined over there because they were building the new Credit Union. You had to have thirty euros [pounds? Shillings?] saved before you could borrow ten. Great service – and she remembers that it was a priest who first set it up after he went to America and brought the idea back here. He organised meetings for the local people in relation to the idea. She thinks O’Flynn was his name…died in the plane. It was all run by volunteers. She remembers David McAuiliffe, known locally as ‘Uncle Dave’ in relation to it. Elizabeth worked with him. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.19.45 - 0.25.27 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Buying household goods and groceries. She talks of her husband getting seven or eight pounds as wages for the week when she got married first. You would buy something with the two week holiday money he would receive. She bought her first fridge out in Togher for thirty five pounds. That would mean there would be no holiday but instead you have a washing machine and fridge. She talks about shopping for groceries and the Spar coming. First was the ‘Bally’, the ‘Ballyphehane Stores’ down the road where the AIB is now. When you got a bit more money you go to the supermarket, to Dunnes Stores. She talks of Luke Burke’s having a shop in Patrick Street and when he closed down Ben Dunne bought that. She recalls seeing a man in a café in town with her daughter Mary (who worked in Dunnes Stores) who ran the original Dunnes Stores back then and who featured in a documentary recently. Jackie talks about what shopping was like in there and mentions the people working in there some of whom were local and mentions a Mona O’Donovan. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.25.30 - 0.31.09 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Living in Gurranabraher with her family. Elizabeth speaks briefly on living in Gurranabraher and then recounts playing with her brother Paddy and him falling after she used to pretend he was a horse and she the driver on their way down to her grandparents who lived in the laneway off Wolfe Tone Street. She talks about her grandparents and their house which was a two roomed house which formed most of it and how they used to pawn items when they were on ‘the binge’ and how her mother would try to avoid them in street by going different route to town when they were in that state. There was eight [children?] in her grandmother’s house. Her mother married young. Two girls died of TB as it was rampant at the time. Her mother’s maiden name was Margaret Babbington. She doesn’t know much about the Babbingtons. She couldn’t remember her grandfather working. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.31.18 - 0.38.12 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Her father and WW1. James, Elizabeth’s grandson, mentions that her father (his great-grandfather) fought in World War One and Elizabeth urges him to speak on it as he knows more than her. James then recounts a story that he was told that the grandfather was fighting with the British Army and during this particular military engagement the healthiest and fittest were out in front and those that were injured were left behind and the priest, or ‘padre’ as they were called asked for volunteers to remain behind with the wounded which would have put their lives in danger. His great-grandfather volunteered and helped the priest by getting stretchers up to the wounded. His bravery was rewarded by a special medal and they have a very good photo of him in uniform. Elizabeth then remembers when she was younger and the medals being in the chest of drawers upstairs in the main bedroom, one of three. She remembers the medals being in there but she doesn’t know where they went subsequently. Her sister’s grandson did the research on the subject and unearthed the story of the bravery medal and James himself is involved in Camden Fort and the World War One room there and hope to do something on Denis Cambridge there for that. He then says that his grandfather became very good friends with the war chaplain, who was Archdeacon Duggan. Elizabeth then speaks about him and the easy way of him as he visited them in their house in Gurranabraher. She also relates a story of how she met him once and he said to her that her father was such a good man he went straight to heaven and brave as well. Elizabeth adds that her father was a very, very quite man, nice man. He never seemed to be affected by the war and he never talked about it. He died young of cancer at the age of fifty-six. Her grand-nephew and grandson have replica medals. She doesn’t remember any negative reaction to him being in the British Army after he came back. He worked as a labourer in timber yard. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.38.13 - 0.42.29 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> TB and Cork. Elizabeth talks about TB not affecting her family as they had cleared it in Cork but it did kill her two aunts on her mother side. They were young women. She relates that she know a number of people, male and female, who worked in the shoe factory in Hanover Street that died of TB. They used to say it was due to the river by the factory. They were young people. They used to go down to Sarsfield Court and Mount Desert. She believes most people died from it because they had no drugs. Discussion about conditions for TB and Elizabeth recounts her tenement house on Wolfe Tone Street having only one toilet with children on every floor but it was kept spotless due to the caretaker couple who made sure everyone cleaned their own part. Jimmy’s parents used to live in a tenement on Peter Street where they had only one toilet as well but no running water. You would have to go out on the street to a water pump and fill your container and bring it back up to the top floor where they lived. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.42.30 - 0.46.11 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Arrival of Electricity and the near death of her brothers. She talks about the change-over to new energy sources from gas to electricity. There was only gas in the house in Gurranabraher but then they put in electricity and light would come on with a switch. She recalls how her two brothers were nearly killed by a leakage from the gas piping after they removed the gas fittings in the house as they slept in their bedroom. They were saved by their aunt who lived with them as well as she heard them groaning. She couldn’t get help as they taught it was a hoax when she rang for help as that night was a bad night weather wise and a lot of hoaxes were being rang in. Her aunt ran in her bare feet to the Garda Station at the end of Rock Steps on the North Mall just beyond O’Connor’s funeral home to get help. They both survived. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.46.12 - 0.48.54 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Arrival in new home. She talks about moving into her new house in Kent Road. She was delighted to have her own house, her own front door and key. She had one child, Stephen, when she moved in. Denis was born in the house. She had six children in total and then mentions that she had seven as one child died. She then talks about the family company she has in the house and how she liked that after her husband died. She loves her house. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.48.55 - 0.54.43 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Family outings around Ballyphehane. She says that she doesn’t miss anything from the old times in Ballyphehane but then recounts how she used to take the children out the Tramore Road, out to Celia’s pub was and there was a stream there and you think you were in Youghal by the stream. Her husband would go in for a pint and if he had the money he would get a bottle of lemonade for the children. The children would paddle in the stream and it was very pleasant. Jackie then adds that she remembers walking down Tramore Road on a Sunday with her father in front on them carrying a stick going onto Hangdog Road, where Kelleher’s Electrical is and there was a farm there. They would stop by the gate to look at the chickens and hens but as you were walking down the road the rats would run across. That is why her father had the stick. Elizabeth says that where Musgraves is now was also a farm. It was country. Jackie talks about going for a walk up Airport Hill into the Airport bar. Also going over St. Finbarr’s Club house. Her aunt and her family socialised with them a lot as her husband died young. Elizabeth loved the walk going down to Blackrock. There was no bus or car and they would walk down the marina. Her husband never had a car so the family used to walk everywhere. She couldn’t afford the bus for all the children and the buses weren’t plentiful. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.54.43 - 0.56. 27 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> The Bandon Train. She recalls the train that you could see on top of the hill running along. She believes it only went once a day. She remembers being asked to meet her brother’s girlfriend from Dunmanway who arrived by train at the station for Bandon. Discussion arises over where was the Bandon line ran through close to the home. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.56.28 - 0.59.13 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Activities and social events like Bonfire Night. Jackie recalls the boys used to go out to Lane’s Wood, at the back of Vermont. Jackie then mentions bonfire night and they having it at the green close to the home and a lady who used to set up a table for refreshments for the children for free. Elizabeth recalls a man who played the melodeon. He was called Mr Mac, for McCarthy. He would play when the Tory Top was closed or the ‘Little Man’s’ and there would a great sing song with a sofa still there and that would be the last into the fire. There would be dancing as well. The Little Man was the Horseshoe Inn. Very little entertainment around here. Bonfire night was a big night and John Millis used to collect a pennies from children and he would get the diluted orange and he would give them a few sweets. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.59.13 – 1.05.04 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Her Social life and Dancing. She didn’t socialise much. She didn’t drink or smoke. She loved to dance though. She went to the Arcadia and City Hall before she got married. She thought the Arcadia brilliant. She went to any big dance that came which could cost as much as five shillings. It would be on from nine to two every Saturday night for a half a crown but if a big band came it would be five shillings. She met her husband Jimmy in the City Hall at a dance. She relates how the ‘boys’ would be on one side and the ‘girls’ would be on the other and the male would come across to ask for a dance. She didn’t have much preparation for the dances – the clothes weren’t as glamourous as today or as much make-up. She said she wasn’t into make-up generally. Her husband however liked to look good – always careful to mind his clothes. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 1.05.05 – 1.09.26 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Sense of community and helping in Ballyphehane. She experienced a great sense of community in Ballyphehane. She is over sixty years here and hasn’t a bad word for the place. Her son Denis was born upstairs, the first after she moved to Kent Road. He was helped in delivery by Mrs. Willis next door. She was a great neighbour as you could call her. Her husband loved sweet things and she remembers when he was sick he had a ‘catch’ of sweets down the wardrobe and his bottle as well. She thinks that he used to get up to get a sweet but there would be a little bit of alcohol with it. She was the opposite and always hated alcohol. If she needed help when he was ill she would rap on the wall and the neighbour would call in, but mostly Linda who developed a good relationship with him during his ill times. Recounts a story about Linda getting hit accidently. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 1.09.27 – 1.14.14 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Ballyphehane as child friendly and welcoming. It was a great place to bring up children. She experienced no problem. Jackie speaks about how everybody hadn’t much so there wasn’t much competition and they all played together. Elizabeth then relates how a new neighbour moved in close by and her advice to her about renovating her house with the start point being the bedroom and then the kitchen and you have the rest of your life to do the rest. Nowadays, she thinks, young ones want it done straight away. Both Elizabeth and Jackie talk about how over the years new families have moved in and integrated very well. Jackie remembers how they used to play soccer using a neighbours gate and their own gate as goalposts. Never any trouble with the neighbours. Elizabeth speaks about a new neighbour who is ‘dark skinned’ and says she doesn’t bother anyone but doesn’t get involved either. They are very quite. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 1.14.15 – 1.23.11 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Musgrave Park and its impact on their life. Elizabeth talks about the rugby pitch which is next to her house and remembers the local opposition to the flood lights and people coming to her door to sign a petition against them, fearing they would be doing concerts. There was also a collection for to employ a solicitor but when the lights were installed, she states, they interfered with nobody. Jackie urges Lizzie to talk about the time the All Blacks came and the place being full of camper vans but Lizzie talks about another time a visiting couple asked her could they leave their bags there with her for them to go for a walk and they went for a walk around the lough. She fed them when they came back. They intended to ‘thump’ back to Limerick after the match. Lizzie wouldn’t allow them to do that as it would be dark after the match and she persuaded to stay the night and go in the morning. Jackie again goes back to the All Black match and the visitors had camper vans and all the gear for making their own food but still the front door was left open and they used to come in to use the bathroom. The only problem she mentions would be traffic sometimes but the Guards are very good. James talks about the concerts there and one in particular, El Divo, and how Uncle Arthur expected to arrive in the house and be able to hear the concert but that turned out to be not the case. General talk amongst those present of how nice it is to live in Ballyphehane. Jamie Fury then reads the legal document regarding the recording of Elizabeth ‘Lizzie’ O’Sullivan. INTERVIEW ENDS </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Elizabeth ‘Lizzie’ O’Sullivan: Ballyphehane Subject The topic of the resource Life History: Ballyphehane, Childhood, Emigration Description An account of the resource Lizzie hails from Wolfe Tone Street on the Northside of the city. After spending a few years in England as a young adult she returned to Cork and was an early resident of the Corporation development in Ballyphehane. Lizzie has lived in Ballyphehane ever since. Elizabeth talks about her places of growing up, Wolfe Tone St, Gurranabraher. Her schooling and first job. Emigration to England and marriage. Returning to Cork and establishing herself in Ballyphehane where she raised her family. Her father’s experience of the First World War. Her grandparents. The Development of Ballyphehane. Ballyphehane Church and Credit Union. Consumer history. TB in Cork. Arrival of Electricity. Family outings around Ballyphehane. Bonfire night. Sense of Community in Ballyphehane. The Bandon Train. Pre-marriage social life and dances. Musgrave Park. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 30 November 2017 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Elizabeth O'Sullivan Interviewer: James Furey Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork; Ireland; Ballyphehane; England; 1920s-2000s Relation A related resource <div class="element-text"><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:</div> <div class="element-text"> Furey, Jamie (2012) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a></div> Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource .wav Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound Arcadia Ballyphehane Ballyphehane Church Ballyphehane Oral History Project Bandon Train Bonfire Night Bridewell Garda Station Camden Fort Cork City Hall Credit Union Dunnes Stores Dwyers Shoe Factory Emigration England First World War Gurranabraher Hanover Street Horseshoe Inn Kent Road Market Gardens Mount Desert Musgrave Park North Presentation school Pearse Road Public Health Sarsfield Court Social Housing Tenements Tory Top Road Tuberculosis Wolfe Tone Street WW1 https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/988c17758553437d09ea7b9f9e0fb2d4.jpg b54fdda9bd6ce79fd7c5fd460dbdf45e https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/files/original/eae89be2d0f9d35133a14bdf2341a467.mp3 6efdd1b93d01b19086747c800293fa03 Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource The Ballyphehane Oral History Project Subject The topic of the resource Life history interviews with the inhabitants of the Cork City suburb of Ballyphehane about life in the area pre and post city corporation development. Description An account of the resource In June 2016 Contact was made by the<a href="https://19162016committee.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Ballyphehane 1916 Centenary Commemoration Committee</a> with the Cork Folklore Project to establish an oral history project to coincide with the events in Ballyphehane marking the centenary commemoration of the 1916 rising. The goal was to collect the memories of the residents and have a night in the community centre where these interviews would be played for the community. Ballyphehane is a suburb in the Southside of the city between Turners Cross and Togher. It was built between the 1940s and 1960s and inhabited by families rehoused from the city centre, much like Gurranabraher and Knocknaheeny in the north side. The significance of the 1916 rising to Ballyphehane is that the streets are named after the leaders of the rising. It was decided that CFP researcher and Ballyphehane resident, James Furey, would head up the project and assist volunteers in technical training and interview techniques: all interviews were carried out under the auspices of the the CFP. This interviewing project is ongoing, and there have been a number of community listening events in 2017 and 2018. Interviews have been carried out by CFP staff James Furey and David McCarthy, and by Ballyphehane resident Arnie O'Connell. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 2016 and ongoing Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewees: Hilary Lyons; Arthur Walker Snr; John Chute; Marie McAllen (with contribution from Liam Ohúigín); Elizabeth 'Lizzie' O'Sullivan; Tom Falvey; Kieran Edwards & Noreen Crowley Interviewers: James Furey; Arnie O'Connell; David McCarthy; Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context Catalogue Numbers: <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>: Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Ethnographic interviews carried out with inhabitants of Ballyphehane detailing their lives pre and post corporation development (ca. 1930s to 2018). Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Type The nature or genre of the resource Audio Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource 7.wav Files Relation A related resource Furey, Jamie (2018) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a> Listening Events Library Lane Café Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> and <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/browse?advanced%5B0%5D%5Belement_id%5D=2&advanced%5B0%5D%5Btype%5D=is+exactly&advanced%5B0%5D%5Bterms%5D=Kieran+Murphy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kieran Murphy</a> 15th June 2017 Tory Top Library Listening Event by <a href="https://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/search?query=jamie+furey&query_type=keyword&record_types%5B%5D=Item&record_types%5B%5D=Collection&submit_search=Search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Furey</a> Oral History A resource containing historical information obtained in interviews with persons having firsthand knowledge. Interviewer The person(s) performing the interview James Furey Liam O'hUigín Interviewee The person(s) being interviewed Marie McAllen Duration Length of time involved (seconds, minutes, hours, days, class periods, etc.) 44m 21s Location The location of the interview Doyle Road, Turners Cross Original Format The type of object, such as painting, sculpture, paper, photo, and additional data .wav Bit Rate/Frequency Rate at which bits are transferred (i.e. 96 kbit/s would be FM quality audio) 24bit / 48kHz Interview Format This field should hold one of the following values; audio, video. Audio Transcription Any written text transcribed from a sound The following is a short extract from the interview transcript, copyright of the Cork Folklore Project. If you wish to access further archival material please contact CFP, folklorearchive@gmail.com JF: So could you describe the workings of the fields and stuff around here? MMC: All market gardening or orchards. They were all market gardening. The first house as you go down into Lower Friars Walk, there was Carney's, a Guard lived there. It was John Coughlan, owned the house, it was rented to Carney, a Guard. And then you went on, there was another house, John Barnett, a builder, was living in it. But it was a Michael Halloran who owned the house, it was rented as well. And then you hit the Hurley's, and the house we lived in Friars Walk was Tim Hurley's. It was rented. And Tim Hurley had a market garden behind our house in Friars Walk and he had four daughters. Three went away to be nuns and there was one got married. And then you went on again, and in Hillview you had three houses, one was the grandmother of the Hurley's, there was Horgans and there was another Hurley lived there, they had nine, there was nine in the family. I think they were them Hurley's. I can go right down to the Tramore Road and tell you who lived there. JF: Do. No that'd be very interesting. It'd be good to MMC: So you went all down then, and you had Scannels and there was more Market Gardening. And then you went on and then you had Hosford's, that was an orchard and they were Protestants. And then you went on there was a Cotter and there was a Coughlan living in the next house. That was the end of the houses then at the left hand side. It was all wall and they were all market gardening grounds you know? But then at the right hand side LOH: Where the church is now Marie is it? MMC: On the right hand side now, that was the left hand side. The right hand side then was Jim Barrett lived and Joe Barrett, two Barrett's. And there was an O'Connorr lived there and then you went on to William Halloran, our grandmother's brother. He was on the hill now facing Hillview. LOH: Where the church is now? Just before you go down MMC: No. They did not have the church at all. This is before the church. LOH: Before the church was on that side? MMC: It was down at the side of the church. And you had his daughter was married to a Paddy Foley. And he lived in a house below them and they were market gardeners as well. The whole lot was. And then you went onto the orchard, the Halloran's. So there was kind of a gate, a small gate, and there was a little small house which my aunt lived in, because Halloran's reared them. My grandmother had six daughters and one son. And it was her mother and father reared one of her daughters. And then you had the Halloran house and they had a daughter that never married, Katie, and she was living in the little house. And that's where the church is today. Time Summary A summary of an interview given for different time stamps throughout the interview <table> <tbody> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.00.00 - 0.04.01 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Background information, House on Friars Walk, Doyle Road and eventually Ballyphehane. Father did not want to return to the house he built on Doyle Rd after Marie's Mother Died, instead choosing to be housed in new corporation house in Ballyphehane even though that meant paying rent. Mother was from Middleton, Father born and raised on Friar’s walk. He went to the model School on Anglesea St. Like to hunt with dogs. Marie went to the South Presentation convent till she was eleven when she move to Guildford, England to her aunties for three month, returned to Ballyphehane but grandmother sick so Marie never returned to school. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.04.01 - 0.06.35 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Ballyphehane in her childhood. All country, spent her days out in the Well Field by the snotty bridge. Pack jam sandwiches, going swimming in the stream and a well for drinking water. Her child hood house on Friars road was the last house on the road. After that it was all dirt road. It would have been across form where the Marian Pharmacy is now. Across the road was tory top lane (not to be confused with Tory top road). The other street (now Reendowny Place) they called ‘the lane’ but when her friend’s boyfriend the captain of the Innisfallen came looking for her one day he called it First Avenue which subsequently stuck. When her friend married the captain they got VIP treatment on the Innisfallen. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.06.35 - 0.09.27 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> The Layout of Lower Friars walk. Market Gardens, all of Ballyphehane was market gardens. First house in lower friars walk lived in By a guard by the name of Kearney, he rented from Gerry Coughlan. Next house John Barrett the builder rented from Michael Halloran. The house Marie lived in was Tim Hurley’s, he had a market garden all around the house. He had four daughters, three became Nuns. One got married. There was hill view which was three houses, one was grandmother of Hurley’s, one was Horgan’s, and the other was another Hurley which had nine of them living in it. The next family was the Scannell’s who had a market garden. Then Hosford’s a protestant family who had an orchard. Next was Cotter, the last house on left hand side was Coughlan’s. On the Right hand side of Lwr Friars walk. Jim Barrett and Joe Barrett, then you an O’Connor. The next was William Halloran Marie’s Grandmothers brother. His daughter was married to Paddy Foley and they lived in the house below, also market gardeners. Next was Halloran’s orchard where the church is now. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.09.28 - 0.10.18 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Halloran’s orchard. Small gate through to a small house, Marie’s aunt lived in. Halloran’s (Marie’s great Grandparents) reared her. Marie’s grandmother had six daughters and one son. Further in was the Halloran house, they had a daughter that never married called Katie and she was in another house. Nat the back of the orchard you had Crowley’s and they had an orchard too. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.10.18 - 0.11.57 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> After the Halloran’s Orchard you had Riordan who was involved in the I.R.A. Marie is unsure of the exact details but remembers prisoners being released from England came looking for Riordan, Marie’s grandmother sent them to another Riordan who lived in the big house. Then sent word to the real O’Riordan to get out. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.11.57 - 0.13.33 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> After his house there was a lane way to Pouladuff Road. Donovan lived there, they called him ‘Murder the Loaf’ and his son ‘slice pan’. Then the next family was Daly’s on Tramore road in a cottage and that was the end of Friars Walk going down. They Called Tramore road Tramore road, but was also known as Hangdog road. Marie’s Grandmothers brother lived where Healy’s cleaners is which was called low lands, In a big house. Marie was caught kissing her Husband Gerry (her then boyfriend) in the ‘Confessional boxes’ (concrete cubicles) by the priest, Who asked if they ‘had anything better to do?’ </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.13.34 - 0.15.14 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Halloran’s Orchard. Marie doesn’t remember her great grandparents having it, it was her uncle paddy who ran it. Massive orchard went all the way to Pouladuff rd., with many people employed to pick apples. After Marie’s grandmother got married first she work in the orchard, her husband was a plaster. Originally grandmother was meant to marry a farmer from Ballygarvan, but she was already going out with what would turn out to be her husband and had no intention of marrying famer her parents had matched her with. Great-grandfather told her that all she would get from him in that case is a pair of grey horses to pull her carriage on the wedding day and nothing else. Never got her dowry. So she was the poor one of the family. But it came to her later, one of the Halloran’s that lived by the park died without a will, he was never married, to sell his property every member had to sign, grandmother told not to sign but said ‘what my father never gave me I don’t want’ and she signed it. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.15.14 - 0.17.08 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> The city was a million miles away to them, only went in to get shoes and they mostly came from England or hand-me-downs. England had better way of getting things even though it wasn’t too much different there. Marie’s grandaunt was a very holy person, the night Cork city burned they left the animals from the mart loose, which led to a bull going own Friars walk with its chains hanging and rattle, Marie’s Grandaunt thought it was the devil coming out of hell. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.17.09 - 0.22.40 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> There was loads of children on Friars walk, they all played down Friary gardens. The Davis’ had nine girls and for boys, the Duggan’s had ten. All big massive families all Marie’s age, all played together. Games they played: Gobs a game with stones, flick stones/pebbles in the air and catch them on back of hand, the gobs had names ska one and ska two, Marbles or glassy alleys, Picky, and skipping. Recites some skipping rhymes. Loads of rhymes like that. I the summer they would be in their bare feet. Marie thinks they had better childhood than today, better memories than looking at a phones and tablets. Marie thinks Those devices aren’t good for kids, but they need to use them for school. They would play with twine and make pattern from twisting, like the gate and baby’s cradle. Her uncle in Midleton was a tailor, he saved all the reels for her, she would put four tack in them and put thread around and keep flicking them over the tacks and you would have a big rope. Collecting scraps was also big. There would be murder over them, robbing them and everything. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.22.41 - 0.23.00 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Marie had two older brothers, Teddy died of cancer at forty three, and the other is still alive and is eighty, he thought out in C.I.T </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.23.01 - 0.00.00 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Food growing up. They saw meat on Sunday, maybe a shoulder of bacon. Plenty of potatoes, vegetables and rice. They could make rice pudding some days. They would have porridge in the morning. You would have to be sick top get an egg. They would eye up the top of the fathers boiled egg and fight over it. Mother would get the bones out of the butcher on Saturday, boil them with vegetables and make a big pot of soup, which would last a few days. Back bones, her husband was never given back bones or bodice because they were country people, so when Marie married her father told her to get back bone with tail, Gerry came in from work he turned his nose up at it. He came round. Bought pigs head convinced husband to eat it, not too convinced, her father kept saying the ear is crispy. Tongue was delicious. Tripe and Drisseen, tripe cooked in milk and onions for a long time, drissenn on the other hand cooked very fast. It’s very good for your stomach. Children wouldn’t touch it. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.25.45 - 0.27.01 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Marie’s Husband, was from Ballincollaig out the country side in a cottage. He moved to Blackrock and they met in the boat club at a new year’s eve dance. Liam went to school with Marie’s husband Gerry in St. Joseph’s. Gerry’s mother wouldn’t send him to Blackrock because she would see the pupils smoking over the wall by the house and see said ‘you’re not going down there, you’ll only learn to smoke down there’ so he had to go to the mardyke all the way from Blackrock. They had to be left off early for lunch so they could get home on the 12.15 bus and back in to school after lunch at 1.30(7km each way). . </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.27.01 - 0.36.25 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Friars Walk cont. Tory top lane ran at the side of the where the Marian chemist is now. The ex-servicemen’s cottages were in friary gardens. At the end where the bungalows are is where the lane turned off. Johnny Crowley had a market garden there and fed pigs. Bella Dunne her mother Kitty Paul and their donkey was so hungry that it ate the door of the shed. Where Connolly road side of the park was called the field, they played there. Barbed wire divvied it from the graveyard, little bit down was McCloughan’s cottage, then Neville’s slaughter house next to another Halloran. By the front of the graveyard there was a big red brick building with toilets and a water font. All countryside, no house after that. Barrett’s on friars walk off Derrynane Rd? Big house in playing field (tory top park) Catharine Mahoney called Catherine ‘snowballs’. And Noel ‘the goat’ and his wife’s mother nanny Callaghan they used to sit her out in a chair Marie thought she was ‘dotie’ thinking about it now she had dementia, they used light paper and put it in the chute to torment them (they called it thunder up the alley), he would come out in his long johns, and they used to call him the ‘devil out of hell’. There was a pump outside their house. House in the park was used as community centre. Then was ‘First Avenue’(now Reendowny Place) at the end of the houses you crossed a field to pouladuff, Noel Halloran lived in the first house, he was killed down in Dunlop’s, a man Meaney, Callaghan’s, Leary, Fitzgerald’s Harris’. They used to call this area the cross, friars walk with ‘first avenue’ and tory top lane being the other roads. Mrs Harris had teeth that were always coming out, Marie’s brother told Marie that they were the father’s teeth. Paddy the milk man , the grandmother used to make Marie get a sup for the cat off him. CMP dairy not on tramore road at time it was a big house. And where Vita Cortex factory is was Ballyphehane House, which was used a school while Coláiste Chríost Rí on Capwell was being built. The woman who lived by there used to wash the football teams jerseys she was call Mag ‘the Whalloper’ she moved to murphy’s lane , they called her husband ‘Hollywood’ because of his immaculate dressing. All bog down there by Mercier park. Turners cross pitch was all bog. The train line ran passed it. Also the Tramore river from the ESB pitch and putt was all open but no a lot is piped over. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.36.25 - 0.39.55 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> The Building of Ballyphehane. Marie’s brother worked on it. Big change, her house was taken to they could build houses. Brother was sent to Skerry’s college (civil service training) but after 2 months it was discovered that her brother was just hanging out in Fitzgerald’s park and not attending college. So he was marched to Leaders for a bib and brace sent to Ballyphehane and learnt his trade on the house facing the graveyard. Marie was thirteen when the development started, she loved it, it modernised her life and luxuries such as Lennox’s Chipper and everything else, very positive. On the cross they would have a huge Bonfire every year and put new potatoes in the corner of fire and all eat spuds. No traffic, only horse and carts, they used to ‘lang on’ (hang on) the back of the ‘floats’ (flatbed carts) that brought the men back from the docks. She wouldn’t say she made friends with the new people moving in, but she was at the age where she was chasing fellas so she welcomed the new arrivals. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.39.55 - 0.40.59 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Haunted house or scary stories. . Scanlon’s house where one of them hung himself, another then was put in to the mental home on the Lee road. They had that kind of tendency in the family. Marie used to go to graveyard where Fr Matthew’s grave was a you could see a coffin in a sarcophagus that made them run away. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.41.00 - 0.42.50 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Say’s she had a fabulous upbringing in her youth, freedom, not like now. On her school holidays they used leave the house go to the well field with their togs, no towel and stay out till five in the evening, no worries. Couldn’t do that today. That house Marie lives in now on Doyle rd was built entirely by her father 80 years ago. All the tradesmen help each out. Marie’s daughter lives on Derrynane rd and was brought in to the neighbour’s house to be shown signatures of the tradesmen that worked on the house and Marie’s fathers was there. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="border-top:1px solid #000000;border-bottom:1px solid #000000;border-left:1px solid #000000;border-right:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0.19cm;"> 0.42.51 – 0.44.21 </td> <td style="border:1px solid #000000;padding:0cm 0.19cm;"> Revised the Black and Tans story, all names of people living in house was written behind door and they’d check if it matched. INTERVIEW ENDS </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> Dublin Core The Dublin Core metadata element set is common to all Omeka records, including items, files, and collections. For more information see, http://dublincore.org/documents/dces/. Title A name given to the resource Marie McAllen: Ballyphehane Subject The topic of the resource Life History: Ballyphehane; Market Gardens; Childhood Description An account of the resource Marie was born and raised in Ballyphehane, before and after development of corporation housing. Her Mother’s family name was Cronin and her grandmother was Halloran who owned Halloran’s orchard where the Ballyphehane Church now stands. Date A point or period of time associated with an event in the lifecycle of the resource 26th April 2017 Contributor An entity responsible for making contributions to the resource Interviewee: Marie McAllen Interviewers: James Furey and Liam O’hUigín Identifier An unambiguous reference to the resource within a given context CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017 Coverage The spatial or temporal topic of the resource, the spatial applicability of the resource, or the jurisdiction under which the resource is relevant Cork; Ballyphehane; 1930s-2000s Relation A related resource <div class="element-text"><a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/72" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00586_lyons_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/73" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00587_walker2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/76" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00592_chute_2016</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/77" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00617_mcallen_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00643_osullivan_2017</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/80" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00665_falvey_2018</a>; <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/archivecatalolgue/items/show/84" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CFP_SR00672_EdwardsCrowley_2018</a>:</div> <div class="element-text"> Furey, Jamie (2012) ‘Boxcars, broken glass and backers: A Glimpse at the Ballyphehane Oral History Project’, The Archive 21: 24-25. <a href="http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf">http://corkfolklore.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Archive21-WebEdition-1.pdf</a></div> Publisher An entity responsible for making the resource available Cork Folklore Project Language A language of the resource English Format The file format, physical medium, or dimensions of the resource .wav Creator An entity primarily responsible for making the resource Cork Folklore Project Source A related resource from which the described resource is derived Cork Folklore Project Audio Archive Rights Information about rights held in and over the resource Cork Folklore Project Type The nature or genre of the resource Sound Ballincollig Ballyphehane Ballyphehane House Black and Tans Blackrock Bodice Burning of Cork Capwell Childhood Games Coláiste Chríost Rí Connolly Road Doyle Road Dunlop Food Fr Theobald Matthew Friars Walk Games Glassey Alleys Gobs Halloran’s Orchard Hangdog Road Haunted house I.R.A Innisfallen Leaders Clothing Shop Liam ÓhUigín Marbles Market Gardens McAllen Nicknames Pouladuff Road Reendowny Place Rhymes Ska Skipping St Joseph's Cemetery St. Joseph’s Cemetery Tory Top Lane Tramore Road Tripe and Drisheen